davieG Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 Good post, that sums it up for me. I obviously hope the deal goes through. I don't think I can remember a deal going on this long despite both parties agreeing a deal of somesort days ago. There's been plenty of examples of this over the years where managers for all sorts of reasons have been left in limbo awaiting compensation agreements and being prevented from working.
blueredswed Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 Yes I think goes for £3000. 000 know I would after reading this
Fox92 Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 Just because a club is in a lower tier in the moment doesn't make them a lesser club,Forest and Leeds are a prime example of this there both big clubs in the championship,Doesn't make them lesser of a club same with Huddersfield. Exactly.
Happy Fox Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 Resigning wont solve the problem unless they accept the resignation which they wont until they agree compensation, they hold his contract and 'could' prevent him from managing another club until that contract expires provided they are prepared to continue to pay him. A case of cutting their nose off to spite their face but it gives them a strong hand to play. This is all just a case of negotiation but with 2 hard nosed businessmen both trying to get the best deal. The negotiation doesn't seem to be coming to fruition, we supposedly agreed a £1m and they change the goalposts and now want £1.2-2m, we should tell them to truly do one, and go for someone else such as Billy Davies.
Guest shearfox Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 Just because a club is in a lower tier in the moment doesn't make them a lesser club,Forest and Leeds are a prime example of this there both big clubs in the championship,Doesn't make them lesser of a club same with Huddersfield. At the moment, they have been in the lower tiers for years and years, only because they won some trophies before the war doesn't make them big. It just doesn't. They haven't seen top flight football since the 70's for godsake
Fox92 Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 The negotiation doesn't seem to be coming to fruition, we supposedly agreed a £1m and they change the goalposts and now want £1.2-2m, we should tell them to truly do one, and go for someone else such as Billy Davies. I know where you are coming from, and although I agree a little, I think turning our backs on the deal would be very harse on Nigel Pearson. I suppose it would have been ok if he didn't say anything like "I want to talk to Leicester", but now he has said, if we do turn our backs and go for another manager, such as Billy Davies, then I don't know what sort of ground that leaves Pearson on. But I suppose that still has nothing to do with our owners, and it isn't their fault Nigel said he wanted to talk etc.
sphericalfox Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 Hull will do everything they can to scupper, slow down, any opportunity for Nigel to make a quick and/or easy transition to our club. Considering the position of Hull in the table and the players that are likely to be affected by his departure, I'd say the value of Pearson is far more than £1m. It's every possibility that their new manager won't have them on target to for the playoffs anymore, which will be devastating considering the money invested this summer. Whilst we are receiving Pearson I do have sympathy for the fans and their owner. It could well be the end of their prospective playoff push for the season.
davieG Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 The negotiation doesn't seem to be coming to fruition, we supposedly agreed a £1m and they change the goalposts and now want £1.2-2m, we should tell them to truly do one, and go for someone else such as Billy Davies. I doubt the real facts of the negotiations have even left either board room.
Leicesterpool Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 Heard rumours that Hull are wanting £7million for Pearson & they won't let us speak to him unless they have the money first.
Fox92 Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 At the moment, they have been in the lower tiers for years and years, only because they won some trophies before the war doesn't make them big. It just doesn't If you go with that then, the same applies to Sheffield Wednesday. You called them a big club but they haven't won anything since the Coca-Cola Cup around 1990/1991 time.
Happy Fox Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 I know where you are coming from, and although I agree a little, I think turning our backs on the deal would be very harse on Nigel Pearson. I suppose it would have been ok if he didn't say anything like "I want to talk to Leicester", but now he has said, if we do turn our backs and go for another manager, such as Billy Davies, then I don't know what sort of ground that leaves Pearson on. But I suppose that still has nothing to do with our owners, and it isn't their fault Nigel said he wanted to talk etc. It is unfortunate about leaving NP in the lurch but circumstances dictate and we are not going to win this battle with the Hull board I am afraid, their is no point reasoning with the unreasonable. We should go for someone else imo.
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 Just because a club is in a lower tier in the moment doesn't make them a lesser club,Forest and Leeds are a prime example of this there both big clubs in the championship,Doesn't make them lesser of a club same with Huddersfield. What is so hard to grasp? They average under 13,000 per game and have been in the bottom 2 divisions for as long as I can remember. They are no where near as big as Forest or Leeds. They won the league 3 times in a row in the 1920's. This is 85 years ago. At what point does that become irrelevant when talking about modern day?
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 But they are still no more than an average sized club an if Clark was wanted here he would have been. History means nothing when you have done nothing for 60 years. Dangerous Tiger that there is fact. That is your OPINION, to which you are entitled, but NOT A FACT.
wurmer Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 Heard rumours that Hull are wanting £7million for Pearson & they won't let us speak to him unless they have the money first. Ahhhhh rumours rumours....
Guest shearfox Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 If you go with that then, the same applies to Sheffield Wednesday. You called them a big club but they haven't won anything since the Coca-Cola Cup around 1990/1991 time. Sheffield Wednesday have been in the top flight challenging, Huddersfield haven't seen top flight football since the 70's, sorry they have no history in the Post war era...
Smudge Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 Resigning wont solve the problem unless they accept the resignation which they wont until they agree compensation, they hold his contract and 'could' prevent him from managing another club until that contract expires provided they are prepared to continue to pay him. A case of cutting their nose off to spite their face but it gives them a strong hand to play. This is all just a case of negotiation but with 2 hard nosed businessmen both trying to get the best deal. Under what legislation are you saying he can't work for anyone else? Is that an FA/league ruling because in contract law you can do what the hell you want as long as you are prepared to deal with the consequences.
Leicesterpool Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 Personally I think this deal is heading for a dead end, what it looks like Hull are begging for Pearson not to leave or the board are refusing to pay the fee wanted by Hull for Pearson.
wurmer Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 How long did it take to sort out the Alex McLeish saga between Birmingham & Aston VIlla - (I think he resigned first though)
look_back_in_amber Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 Well I think Mandaric having Sousa around whilst giving Pearson permission to be interviewed say's to me we don't care if you go we've got someone better. Either way Mandaric was happy to lose him and if as a club we're now paying over the odds to get him back that pretty much say's as a club we fooked up. As for Hull 'dragging it out' one could argue we're dragging it out by not paying up after all they're the ones that are going to lose out and have to take the risk of finding an equal or better manager something we know from bitter experience is no easy task. and this ^
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 That is your OPINION, to which you are entitled, but NOT A FACT. No it is a FACT that they have done nothing for over 60 years. It is a FACT they average under 13,000 fans per game and a FACT they have been in the bottom 2 divisions for years. All of this leads me to a conclusion that they are no more than an average sized club. You can say the last bit is opinion but the facts seem to add up to my opinion being correct. Don't try to be argumentative on something so obvious.
Fox92 Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 Heard rumours that Hull are wanting £7million for Pearson & they won't let us speak to him unless they have the money first. I doubt that, but if true, there is no way I can see the owner's paying £7million for a manager. Imagine the instant pressure that would be piled on Pearson.
look_back_in_amber Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 The Hull board is acting like a bunch of t**ts now wanting £2m in compensation I say we are well within our right not to bother reasoning with them. Do you have a bet on it per chance?
lcfc81 Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 This brinkmanship at it's finest and would appear to involve to very stubborn businessmen. Hull hold all the cards with Pearson's contract if the want to they could stop him working for the next 18months or so even if it eventually costs them money and time. As I've said previously besides wanting to maximise their potential income from this deal they could quite easily be starting their interviewing process to find a replacement it's not exactly unknown as we must have done that with both Sousa and Sven. I must admit I don't know much about contract law, but if they did that surely Pearson could go down the constructive dismissal route?
Happy Fox Posted 10 November 2011 Posted 10 November 2011 If we don't get Nigel Pearson, their are good options available in Billy Davies, MON , Hughes and Jones.
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