kyle09uk Posted 17 November 2011 Posted 17 November 2011 Bit of wasted effort there. Bamba's suspended. Doubt we'll have a loanee in by then either tbh
Dan Posted 17 November 2011 Posted 17 November 2011 Very little difference to the team that lost 0-3 to Millwall, and you think we will win 2-0? Are you for real? if anyone wanted to know why people are worried about Pearson, it could be because he might well pick a lineup like this one. A midfield of Dyer, King, Wellens and Gallagher, who between them could not win a combined tackle against my three year old grandson! Are you for real? Worried about Pearson for picking a line-up than Sven used, and that's Pearson's fault? What you have to realise is that we don't even have the individual players to play Pearson's preferred flat 4-4-2, of which you can certainly blame Sven. Bit of wasted effort there. Bamba's suspended. Aye, completely forgot. Not really wasted effort though, took me under a minute, it's piss easy, not a bad little site. midfield is awful, especially damns on the right or for that matter even in the starting line 11... or for that matter the bench...or for the matter the squad,, send the bugger back Sort of player who'd flourish under Pearson IMO. Whilst not a natural right winger, I think we've not got a lot else there. Who else would you go for there? Gallagher? He's been equally shite.
deep blue Posted 17 November 2011 Posted 17 November 2011 Howard was blatantly pushed for what should have been a penalty for a start. He was also no just fouled but blatantly manhandled on several occasions at the beginning of the first half - all of which would, and should, have produced free-kicks in dangerous positions. Okay, I concede we would probably have pushed the free-kicks sideways and blown the chance of doing anything dangerous, but that wouldn't have been Howard's fault. Howard is often pushed, but on many occasions it isn't enough of a push for refs to give a foul. It happens all the time to forwards. My objection to Howard is how he reacts to it. Whining doesn't get him anywhere, and it doesn't help the team. Some forwards have a better technique in either being able to tough it out and get the better of the defender, or to position themselves in a cleverer way that makes a push more obvious. I would have expected him, with all his experience, to be able to handle himself better. When Schlupp, a rookie by comparison, came on against Leeds he immediately induced a foul in exactly the situation where Howard had consistently failed when he was on.
deep blue Posted 17 November 2011 Posted 17 November 2011 Sorry, shouldn't have prolonged the Howard discussion. I think Pearson has a helluva job for Sunday because the squad is so substantial - a lot of players to assess in a short time. He may just start by picking from the 18 or so players who have been in contention for the season so far, but there are other players sidelined by Sven who perhaps deserve a look. Much as we'd all like him to hit the ground running, I can't help but think it's going to take a few games before he isolates his preferred team and formation from those available.
Simmo86 Posted 17 November 2011 Posted 17 November 2011 midfield is awful, especially damns on the right or for that matter even in the starting line 11... or for that matter the bench...or for the matter the squad,, send the bugger back Your awesome
Happy Fox Posted 17 November 2011 Posted 17 November 2011 We need to start Beckford and Nugent, if Howard starts I will be in such dismay he is an impact sub at best, tbh Schlupp would be ahead in the pecking order
Corky Posted 17 November 2011 Posted 17 November 2011 Beckford and Nugent up front, Howard had little impact starting against Leeds, impact sub is his role.
Thracian Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 We need to start Beckford and Nugent, if Howard starts I will be in such dismay he is an impact sub at best, tbh Schlupp would be ahead in the pecking order The way he's played so far I wouldn't let Beckford start my watch. As for Schlupp, remembering what happened to Gradel and the token involvement Sven gave Schlupp through no fault of his own once the "big" signing arrived, he should probably get himself out on loan with a view to kick-starting his career somewhere else. I wonder if he can still remember what a matchday football looks like. Yes, he might be given some involvement early on while we have so few striker alternatives but I wouldn't count on it lasting and I doubt we're going to launch a promotion push with an inexperienced kid who cost nothing. It's a big advantage almost everywhere having a nice fat fee pushing you into contention.
The Doctor Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 The way he's played so far I wouldn't let Beckford start my watch. As for Schlupp, remembering what happened to Gradel and the token involvement Sven gave Schlupp through no fault of his own once the "big" signing arrived, he should probably get himself out on loan with a view to kick-starting his career somewhere else. I wonder if he can still remember what a matchday football looks like. Yes, he might be given some involvement early on while we have so few striker alternatives but I wouldn't count on it lasting and I doubt we're going to launch a promotion push with an inexperienced kid who cost nothing. It's a big advantage almost everywhere having a nice fat fee pushing you into contention. would you stop ****ing moaning for once in your life? If schlupp's not been starting (under sven & stowell/rudkin) then it's because they see more of him in training than any of us (remember Rudkin was youth coach so will have worked with Schlupp for quite a while) and perhaps see that a kid who got his first taste of football outside U-18 level in MARCH isn't ready to be leading the line or playing a big part in a team chasing for promotion to the top flight. Now get off the collective cocks of the academy and open your ****ing eyes as to why they might not break through or play all that much.
lestajigs Posted 18 November 2011 Author Posted 18 November 2011 The way he's played so far I wouldn't let Beckford start my watch. As for Schlupp, remembering what happened to Gradel and the token involvement Sven gave Schlupp through no fault of his own once the "big" signing arrived, he should probably get himself out on loan with a view to kick-starting his career somewhere else. I wonder if he can still remember what a matchday football looks like. Yes, he might be given some involvement early on while we have so few striker alternatives but I wouldn't count on it lasting and I doubt we're going to launch a promotion push with an inexperienced kid who cost nothing. It's a big advantage almost everywhere having a nice fat fee pushing you into contention. I no it was only 15min. But beckford looked lively against Leeds, would play him and nugent, then bring Howard on the last 20min
liamsm Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 Yep that's exactly the reason.. Pisses me off hugely.. Why can't the Tigers play on Sat I mean.. It's only rugby ain't it? DERR the tigers are playing on Sat?
liamsm Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 It was also because the police didn't want both games on the same day, don't know why because i can remember tigers on at 3pm when we played Ipswich last season at 12:45 I remember the 70's ( bootboy days with all the fighting ) when City and Tigers both played on Saturdays with both being about 3pm kick off's
liamsm Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 Very little difference to the team that lost 0-3 to Millwall, and you think we will win 2-0? Are you for real? if anyone wanted to know why people are worried about Pearson, it could be because he might well pick a lineup like this one. A midfield of Dyer, King, Wellens and Gallagher, who between them could not win a combined tackle against my three year old grandson! Looks very much like the midfield that got us to the play off semi's, cant be that bad, WELCOME HOME NIGEL
liamsm Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 We just lost 3-0 to Millwall at home. It is not good enough!!!!!!! IMO it is good enough it was just the Sven was not as good as Pearson at getting the best out of players, and i liked Sven
artursteppe Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 That comment makes you look a complete fool. Howard clearly showed against West Ham he can play a part. Idiot. Howard has nothing to offer if he is not intimidating defences. One or two decent performances are not what we need. He was good against Cardiff in the play-offs, and had a decent second half against West Ham this season. But that is not enough for you 'Howard love-in types' to think he is of any value. Against Leeds he was a powder-puff, whinging at the ref like a gay south european instead of getting involved and showing some physicality. Lee Peltier is better in front of goal than he is, especially with his head. Howard is a total embarrassment when he attempts shots from distance when the ball barely reaches the goalkeeper. Some players can throw the ball further than he can kick it! He is a striker who very rarely scores, who if he has any talent at all, can once in a blue moon show a level of physicality that may, very rarely, be greater than that of Gallagher. The truth is, he is absolute crap!
Ric Flair Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 The way he's played so far I wouldn't let Beckford start my watch. As for Schlupp, remembering what happened to Gradel and the token involvement Sven gave Schlupp through no fault of his own once the "big" signing arrived, he should probably get himself out on loan with a view to kick-starting his career somewhere else. I wonder if he can still remember what a matchday football looks like. Yes, he might be given some involvement early on while we have so few striker alternatives but I wouldn't count on it lasting and I doubt we're going to launch a promotion push with an inexperienced kid who cost nothing. It's a big advantage almost everywhere having a nice fat fee pushing you into contention. You really are a prat sometimes. Sven's not going to pay £2.5 million for a striker and then not give him a chance! If he did that everyone would be going wild. You also wouldn't go in to the season without signing another striker when we only had Nugent, Howard and Schlupp who was unproven. There aren't many 18 year old's that get thrown in and play every game, even Rooney didn't do it at 17/18. He was often played from the bench in his early years. Anyway, you have no idea what Pearson is going to do. Beckford's not his player and his suspect attitude might not be Nigel's cup of tea at all. Schlupp will be nurtured and is a different character to Gradel. Pearson put his utmost faith in Andy King when others might not have done so and both parties were rewarded, Pearson may do so with Schlupp if he feels he's ready. You're constant obsession with blending old regimes in with new regimes with no regard for the likelyhood of change is remarkable. I actually wonder what you'd do if Schlupp played every game. I'm sure you'd find some other kid who isn't getting a chance yet to spout off about because that's what you need. You need to have an opinion on a player who is being neglected, a potential superstar that people who know more than you can't see and you'll compare their attributes to Danny Tiatto's. It's what keeps you going, Schlupp is just a chess piece.
sbfox Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 The way he's played so far I wouldn't let Beckford start my watch. As for Schlupp, remembering what happened to Gradel and the token involvement Sven gave Schlupp through no fault of his own once the "big" signing arrived, he should probably get himself out on loan with a view to kick-starting his career somewhere else. I wonder if he can still remember what a matchday football looks like. Yes, he might be given some involvement early on while we have so few striker alternatives but I wouldn't count on it lasting and I doubt we're going to launch a promotion push with an inexperienced kid who cost nothing. It's a big advantage almost everywhere having a nice fat fee pushing you into contention. When the fvck did Schlupp get match time before Sven got here?
marbelladave Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 Regarding NFP's return, ar this stage we kwow a few things for certain..... 1) First time around NFP produced a very decent team and got some excellent results, he did it with a minimal budget and by getting reasonable players to all step up together and form a very competitive team. One that was, quite possibly, only a dressing room argument away from promotion. 2) In the main he achieved this by setting up quite cautiously with the emphasis on defence, even when we were playing well and even scoring a few goals this approach never let up. Whether this approach was a reflection of the players available and our percieved weeknesses in defence and central midfield or simply 'Pearson's way' we do not yet know. 3) NFP does not suffer fools. Whether players or management, failure to 'get on' with him will see you sidelined or worse still, in conflict, ask Campbell, Gradel and Hoos. We have new business management in place but I would be very surprised if NFP is not in total control of football matters, I doubt he would have taken the job otherwise. We have some 'difficult' players, it will be interesting to see how they are handled. Sundays game is probably too soon to expect NFP to make a real difference but to me, one thing is clear, he will see this as a 'must win' game in a very personal way. He will do everything in his power to start his tenure with a win so it will be interesting to see how he sets about it, I see this game as a 'one off', getting the team to play the way he wants will take some time so I do not necessarily see this as any kind of a pointer to the future.
ray49 Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 I remember the 70's ( bootboy days with all the fighting ) when City and Tigers both played on Saturdays with both being about 3pm kick off's That was before professional rugby union. In those days, Tigers would be lucky to get over 1,000 attanding. Nowadays they average 20k+.
Guest shearfox Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 Can't make the game on Sunday which sucks! Would have loved to be there with Pearson returning and all. I hate Sunday games...
TrentFox Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 Tough on King, but we need more dynamism / energy in midfield. Howard is still the best option we have for holding the ball up at the top. Unless we do that, whoever plays wide of the centre-forward is destined not to touch the ball in an attacking sense.
Happy Fox Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 With regards to Fernandes he doesn't want to be here anymore now that Sven has left so cannot see him featuring.
TrentFox Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 With regards to Fernandes he doesn't want to be here anymore now that Sven has left so cannot see him featuring. Sincerely hope Pearson can turn that around. he has a lot to offer. Like with most players, that attitude can be changed if they are playing regularly and made to feel wanted. I rate his energy.
Simo86 Posted 18 November 2011 Posted 18 November 2011 With regards to Fernandes he doesn't want to be here anymore now that Sven has left so cannot see him featuring. Did Gelson tell you this?
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