Moto Hello Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 I think refereeing problems are getting repeatingly worse. This is especially in big games. Technology is needed and not just on the goal line. It seems to me that any match involving the top premiership teams, they lose points from some horrendous disicions. Spurs v stoke and man u v newcastle come to mind. Also man city v arsenal today, where I thought that van persie has a fair goal ruled out for offside. Also I think man city are the new man u and all the desisions seem to help them. Tell me if you think I'm wrong.
Matt Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 I think it was offside, and yes I do hate Arsenal but that is my honest and unbias opinion. As for technology, yes it is needed. However I do agree with arguements it would slow the game down, players would be appealing for everything and it would be start/stop, therefore I think there should be something introduced inspired by a mixture of rugby/cricket, you have an official in a room on his own with video replays ready to be played, you give each team 3 (Or however many are agreed) referrals the captains of each team can appeal and request a referral, once all 3 referals have been used, tough, the referral system would make teams think more about what they appeal against and would limit the game being start/stop every 5 minutes. Perhaps the idea may need tweaking here and there but I think as a basic idea it's not bad.
Corky Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 Also I think man city are the new man u and all the desisions seem to help them. Like the clear penalty they were denied at Chelsea?
Samilktray Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 Your spelling in the thread title was a bad decision.
Moto Hello Posted 18 December 2011 Author Posted 18 December 2011 Oh come on! Is one letter being spelt incorrectly a crime. And no I'm not dyslexic, im just no good with a phone keypad. I think your right Matt, that would be a great idea and something that wouldn't really slow down a game.
I am Rod Hull Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 Your spelling in the thread title was a bad decision. decision* somebody is dyslexic Warriors..
I am Rod Hull Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 I think refereeing problems are getting repeatingly worse. This is especially in big games. Technology is needed and not just on the goal line. It seems to me that any match involving the top premiership teams, they lose points from some horrendous disicions. Spurs v stoke and man u v newcastle come to mind. Also man city v arsenal today, where I thought that van persie has a fair goal ruled out for offside. Also I think man city are the new man u and all the desisions seem to help them. Tell me if you think I'm wrong. This seems to be the case but I think its always been the way. Today`s ultra multi angle slow-mo TV just points it out more...
Father Ted Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 Its like Sunday league, 5 weeks in a row you'll get a cracking ref and then you'll get one utter bellend. But what can you do it happens every now and then but there is no denying that there is a pattern for certain refs... particularly ****** like Clattenburg and Attwell who are continually getting things wrong.
I am Rod Hull Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 Its like Sunday league, 5 weeks in a row you'll get a cracking ref and then you'll get one utter bellend. But what can you do it happens every now and then but there is no denying that there is a pattern for certain refs... particularly ****** like Cvnttenburg and Twattwell who are continually getting things wrong.
ajthefox Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 something should be done but it needs to be very carefully thought out and can't just be brought it at the drop of a hat.
Kitchandro Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Refs and linos are crap, get used to it. I'd have no problem with goal-line technology but all this talk of 'challenges' like in tennis really annoys me. What if you run out of challenges and then the ref makes a really terrible decision and then people are still complaining? My idea is to get a 5th official whose job it is to watch the match on a screen. That's his only job. When there's a key incident he feels the referee needs help with he can intervene, but only important ones like goals, bookings and sendings off. If it comes off the striker and a corner is given then tough, shit happens.
Fox92 Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Human's are not robots, and as I referee you are in a position to make a decision in a split second that will affect thousands of people. I am not really a fan of technology, but all I ask for is the officials to be fitter than what they are. I have seen many times at Leicester games, where the referee or the linesman are not fit enough to keep up with play, and that frustrates me, especially when they give a decision they probably cannot see. So, I'd like to see fitter officials... I know a lot of people critisize those women linesman, and yeah it might be wrong, but at least they are fit and can keep up with the game, some of which where the ball is constantly end to end. And I'll also add that not always referee's can take the blame. I get it if say, we loose 0-1 and the referee gave a dodgy penalty, but constantly blaming the referee and singing 'we only get s%*t refs' sometimes does my head in, because sometimes managers and players have to take the blame just as much. There will never be one game where the referee is liked by every fan, manager and player. Dodgy decisions will always be around, as long as humans are controlling the match, and I know some are stupid but humans make mistakes, and sometimes it may even add to the game. All I ask for is fitter officials.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Its not the fact that refs get decisions wrong which is my probelm, its the fact they dont know the rules properly. I.e. The handball rule, IT HAS TO BE DELIBERATE. The Forest ref, J.Moss should learn this. The last man rule, has to be a clear goal scoring opportunity. Shocking ref, and the linesmen who are no better are runing this game. About time a pundit really came out and criticised the officials.
Charl91 Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 I don't agree that it would slow down play; what do you think all the free-kicks given for players diving does? If we used technology in the game, then Refs could afford to give harsher punishments for diving, as it's much easier to get it right. Hopefully it would deter people from jumping on the floor all the time, and actually speed up the game.
General Smuts Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 The referee at Stevenage Vs Tranmere at the weekend was atrocious. Absolutely terrible. The only decision he got right all game was disallowing a Tranmere goal from a corner which was so far offside it was unreal. He sent off Ben May for sliding in on the keeper. It was a daft challenge but he was going for the ball. Rachubka got up and stuck his head into May's and didn't get even a yellow. Nonsense. The initial foul was a yellow and in the aftermath if you send 1 player off you have to punish the other player. Ridiculous. Then the penalty he gave in injury time to Tranmere was beyond a joke. 2 players fell over and nobody claimed anything. Not a single person at the ground was shocked when he gave a penalty. There was no consistency between the punishments for challenges between the teams, it genuinely seemed like a bias on the refs behalf, as if he'd come out in the second half trying to claw back the goal for Tranmere. Mental.
Kitchandro Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Its not the fact that refs get decisions wrong which is my probelm, its the fact they dont know the rules properly. I.e. The handball rule, IT HAS TO BE DELIBERATE. The Forest ref, J.Moss should learn this. The last man rule, has to be a clear goal scoring opportunity. Shocking ref, and the linesmen who are no better are runing this game. About time a pundit really came out and criticised the officials. That may well be the rule, but are you saying that if a player has his arms away from his body and it hits them it's not a foul if they didn't mean to? Even if the ball would have sailed into the net? Obviously the Mills one was ridiculously harsh but I'm not sure deliberate should be the rule.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 That may well be the rule, but are you saying that if a player has his arms away from his body and it hits them it's not a foul if they didn't mean to? Even if the ball would have sailed into the net? Obviously the Mills one was ridiculously harsh but I'm not sure deliberate should be the rule. In my eyes it is handball, but thats what I'm saying no one knows the rules propely, everyone interpretes it differently. Its a vague rule.
Kitchandro Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 I don't agree that it would slow down play; what do you think all the free-kicks given for players diving does? If we used technology in the game, then Refs could afford to give harsher punishments for diving, as it's much easier to get it right. Hopefully it would deter people from jumping on the floor all the time, and actually speed up the game. I think if players are caught diving they should be sent off, not booked, and if video evidence prove they did it after the game, give them a one match. Nobody could say this is harsh, you get worse punishment for a few mistimed tackles than you do for purposefully cheating at the moment. Why should those people be treated with leniency? In my eyes it is handball, but thats what I'm saying no one knows the rules propely, everyone interpretes it differently. Its a vague rule. Yeh agreed, it should be changed if that is the case. Referees certainly don't just give it for deliberate ones.
AyewJoking Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 It would ruin football if every decision went to a replay. I'd rather it stay as it is. Perhaps in a league situation you could review matches after they've been played and deduct goals/points where necessary. However, I think we should only bring in goal line technology. That wouldnt slow the game down as you always lose a minute or two anyway with the celebrations etc. As for offsides, corners etc, they should be left alone. Red and yellow cards can be dealt with after, similar to how they are currently done.
Narborough_fox Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Its like Sunday league, 5 weeks in a row you'll get a cracking ref and then you'll get one utter bellend. But what can you do it happens every now and then but there is no denying that there is a pattern for certain refs... particularly ****** like Clattenburg and Attwell who are continually getting things wrong. I want your referee's. We seem to get 5 crap ones in a row and that a cracking ref.
Charl91 Posted 20 December 2011 Posted 20 December 2011 I think if players are caught diving they should be sent off, not booked, and if video evidence prove they did it after the game, give them a one match. Nobody could say this is harsh, you get worse punishment for a few mistimed tackles than you do for purposefully cheating at the moment. Why should those people be treated with leniency? Oh, I agree, I'm a massive fan of punishing cheaters harshly. But because we dont have video replay, Ref's dont like to send people off for diving, as it can be sometimes difficult to tell without a replay and is an easy decision to get wrong. But not just with diving, video replay would get rid of most of those times where players think they can do things because the Ref isn't looking, as well as get rid of most of the controversial shocking decisions in the game. I really hope it does get used in the game soon; it works in most other sports, and is probably the only way to ensure a fairer game.
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