Daggers Posted 15 March 2012 Author Posted 15 March 2012 I say we give it a go Damn right, fvcking Amalekites.
Webbo Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Sharia law is utterly barbaric, but then I wouldn't particularly want to live in a country that doled out Old Testament 'justice' either. Samuel 12:2-3, (Genocide) This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” Exodus 21:20-21 (Slavery) ‘If a man takes a stick and beats his slave, whether male or female, and the slave dies on the spot, the man is to be punished. But if the slave does not die for a day or two, the master is not to be punished. The loss of his property is punishment enough’ Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (Rape) ‘Suppose a man is caught raping a girl who is not engaged. He is to pay the girl’s father the bride price of fifty pieces of silver, and she is to become his wife, because he forced her to have intercourse with him’ Remarkably similar to Sharia that last one before we start slamming those pesky foreigns as backward savages. Religion and modern law making are incompatible, incidents like this are the perfect proof of that. Yes, but that's not the law here and no one is suggesting it should be.
Finnegan Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Yes, but that's not the law here and no one is suggesting it should be. Neither is Sharia?
Guest Bilo Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Wasn't our entire legal system based upon religious belief? It's only been in recent years that blasphemy has been taken off the books as an offence. The point that religion and law don't mix still stands, faith and state must always remain separate. The Christian right in America have also forced through some pretty illogical laws and it mustn't be allowed to prevail here.
Daggers Posted 15 March 2012 Author Posted 15 March 2012 The point that religion and law don't mix still stands, faith and state must always remain separate. The Christian right in America have also forced through some pretty illogical laws and it mustn't be allowed to prevail here. Faith and everything should be separate.
Raw Dykes Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Neither is Sharia? But there are people in the country that do think Sharia law should be implemented here. There are countries that still have the same laws that they had in the Bronze age. There are places you can go to today where there has been absolutely no progress made in their way of thinking for thousands of years. The Bible promotes slavery, stoning unruly children to death, forcing rape victims to marry their attacker, etc. You'd be hard pushed to find a country in the west that follows these laws. Although Christianity is the main religion in the west, the laws of the Bible are recognised as barbaric and incredibly outdated. Secular society has dragged Christianity out of the dark ages and pulled it almost all the way towards something resembling a fair, liberal religion. Now, secular society appears to have more work to do elsewhere.
Daggers Posted 15 March 2012 Author Posted 15 March 2012 Neither is Sharia? But there has been an increasing use of Sharia courts in the UK which are inherently sexist. As Maryam Namazie (rights activist, commentator and broadcaster and spokesperson of Iran Solidarity and One Law for All) says: "Rights, justice, inclusion, equality and respect are for people, not for beliefs and parallel legal systems. To safeguard the rights and freedoms of all those living in Britain, there must be one secular law for all and no religious courts."
Jon the Hat Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 I think the older you get, the more you realise that accepting something because it comes from another culture is a complete crock of shit. Something is either acceptable to society / legal or not, regardless of any other factors including ethnicity, religion, gender, sexuality.
acooling08 Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Do Muslim women actually want to stop the sexist Sharia laws or do they accept it as part of their religion?
Jon the Hat Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Do Muslim women actually want to stop the sexist Sharia laws or do they accept it as part of their religion? How is that relevant?
Daggers Posted 15 March 2012 Author Posted 15 March 2012 Do Muslim women actually want to stop the sexist Sharia laws or do they accept it as part of their religion? Is this rhetorical or are you asking for information you can't be arsed to surf the internet for?
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 These scum need annihilating,the evil bastards. Sub human filth!
21st Century Fox Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 These scum need annihilating,the evil bastards. Sub human filth! You can kill a man but you can't kill an idea. Its the idea or ideals that needs killing.
Rincewind Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Sometime ago I went to an interview skills session. The tutor mentioned that because of her religion she could not shake hannds with a man that was not her husband. A few weeks ago I went to an office skills course. The tutor also was wearing a veil but held her hand out to shake mine. Took me aback because I remembered what the other one said and was quite prepared to accept it even though I think its wrong. So to answer whether Islam accept the laws. Maybe the ones held back do. If an Islam woman marries before she finishes college/uni she is supposed to give her education up to look after her husband and family. Not much different to how it was here before women got the vote and right up to the 60's. There are still people in America that believe their god made these rules and they are right. One poster on Tumblr posted this as a reply to a quote I posted where God demands children should be killed. 'ON Hosea 13:16. This is why you should hate sin and evil, because the result of sin is death and destruction. With Christ Jesus there is always going to be trials and bad things happening, but the difference is that when you are with Him, he will help you get through it all. Leaving the Lord is exposing yourself to demons and unhappiness, and thats what happened to Samaria here. They fled and rejected God, in doing that, they were no longer protected by God because they did not want to be.' I take it this means that if you are a maniac bad driver and also a vicar driving down the motorway you will be ok because you have Jesus as a passenger but other road users will go to hell if you cause a pile up.
BlueSi13 Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Its lucky the Catholic church doesn't have this rule, there'd be so many 12 year old boys married to Catholic priests and you now how they frown on gay marriage. I fail to see what Catholics have to do with this thread.
21st Century Fox Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 I fail to see what Catholics have to do with this thread. Really?
MC Prussian Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 I fail to see what Catholics have to do with this thread. You know, so-called peaceful Catholics were once responsible for similarly cruel acts to mankind some couple of hundred years ago. So, in essence, extremist Islam equals Old-School Catholicism.
acooling08 Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 How is that relevant? Because if Muslim women accept it and don't want it changed then there's no point in discussing the subject as a whole. Is this rhetorical or are you asking for information you can't be arsed to surf the internet for? I'm asking for information I can't be arsed to search the internet for.
FoxyPV Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Wow. One of the reasons I hate religion so much is because in most cases it's just the acceptable veneer of woman hatred.
BlueSi13 Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 You know, so-called peaceful Catholics were once responsible for similarly cruel acts to mankind some couple of hundred years ago. So, in essence, extremist Islam equals Old-School Catholicism. That was then, this thread is discussing the now. I fail to understand the need to attack another group of people who have nothing to do with this story. Atheist or not.
Rincewind Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Well there are the one or two Catholic priests that have been very naughty boys and their boss in Rome forgives them.
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