Should Horse Racing be banned?

[ozleicester]

WE ARE NOT KILLING THEM FOR PLEASURE.... IM AFRAID YOU ARE! you may wish to live in denial, and "shouting" may help with this, but the simple fact is, horses die racing for humans to watch, you dont deliberatley kill them, but, you are being entertained.. and they are dieing.

IT IS NOT BULL-FIGHTING. correct, well spotted, but.. a dead horse or a dead bull either way is dead.

THE POINT OF THE SPORT IS TO WIN RACES, NOT DIE. But they do die, you cant ignore this fact.

If you're wondering why it needs to be in capitals, it's because you obviously need simple facts being spelled out very clearly. Speaking clearly doesnt change the facts, if you can spell DEAD then you have the facts.

If you want to be a veggie, that's fine, but you can't judge the majority of the population for eating meat or ban them, so you can't judge them for liking horse racing either, or stop them from being able to enjoy it. I am not judging the population, (i dont know why meat eaters always feel so attacked, its not like we are going to kill and eat you or anything). I make no judgement, other than the simple fact that horse racing is cruel as is killing any animal for pleasure.

We do have a right to use animals, that's the hierarchy of nature, animals eat the weaker ones, we eat them and use them to benefit our lives. That's what nature is about. You do know that just a few hundred years ago many people believed that "Blacks" were lower than "whites" in the nature of things, and therefore it was fine to treat them pretty much as we do animals today.

Horses generally love racing and if they didn't they wouldn't put as much effort into jumping fences. As I've said, they are bred for this and live great lives compared to a lot of animlas, so ban horseracing and you're basially denying them a right to live. they have no choice, and those that arent any good at it are killed. if we dont breed them for entertainment they wont be killed.

So who's the cruel one here? anyone who supports horse racing, supports cruelty

[Kitchandro]

God you're stupid. You cannot compare horses dying by accident with killing them for fun. It is retarded to compare that.

It is a minority that are killed in horse racing. Just as it's a minority of footballers who die of heart attacks on a football pitch. By your logic those things are the same. You may not be deliberately killing footballers, but you are being entertained.. and they are dying.

I suggest you drop that one because you honestly sound like a child who has no understanding of the world. And, essentially, you've made your own point invalid by saying anything where someone dies by accident is cruel or shouldn't be allowed.

You think 'killing any animal for pleasure is cruel'. So to sum up, you think eating meat is cruel. Well I think that sums your pathetic argument up

Comparing black humans to animals Tell you what, when a horse makes a speech about animal rights I'll agree we should ban horseracing

If we don't breed them for entertainment, they don't exist, that's it. You can keep ignoring I've said that but it won't make it any less true. You'd rather horse not exist at all than have an unfortunate accident at the end of a well lived life. That's your view.

Anyone with that view doesn't care about horses.

[Simmo86]

Kitch

Just give up

[ozleicester]

God you're stupid. You cannot compare horses dying by accident with killing them for fun. It is retarded to compare that. No it isnt, you appear to fail to understand that either way, a "sport" is killing an animal

It is a minority that are killed in horse racing. Just as it's a minority of footballers who die of heart attacks on a football pitch. By your logic those things are the same. You may not be deliberately killing footballers, but you are being entertained.. and they are dying. I think you will find that the people CHOOSE to be on the pitch, horses have no choice.

I suggest you drop that one because you honestly sound like a child who has no understanding of the world. And, essentially, you've made your own point invalid by saying anything where someone dies by accident is cruel or shouldn't be allowed. I appreciate your suggestion, however, you arent capable of seeing logic, so i will ignore your suggestion.I will explain again... a horse who falls and dies whilst running in a field, is fine... a horse that is forced to run in a race and falls and dies, has been cruelly killed.

You think 'killing any animal for pleasure is cruel'. So to sum up, you think eating meat is cruel. Well I think that sums your pathetic argument up Yes

Comparing black humans to animals Tell you what, when a horse makes a speech about animal rights I'll agree we should ban horseracing Bad luck any black people who arent capable of speech then i guess? and try to think carefully, coz this might be difficult for you..but try reading it slowly and a couple of times and you may understand. I was NOT comparing animals and black people, i was showing that their situations were similar, your previous statement was that we are (considered) superior creatures when compared to animals... this is the same way that people felt about the slaves., do you understand that?

If we don't breed them for entertainment, they don't exist, that's it. You can keep ignoring I've said that but it won't make it any less true. You'd rather horse not exist at all than have an unfortunate accident at the end of a well lived life. That's your view. hundreds..in fact i think thousands, of horses who are bred for racing, die each year, because they arent good enough, so yes, lets ban horse racing, end the breeding and killing of these innocent creatures.

Anyone with that view doesn't care about horses. as opposed to someone who loves the image of horribly inbred animals being beaten and trained to extremes and dieing for their entertainment is clearly a horse lover.

[Matt]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4338359/Nags-to-riches.html

I was going to copy and paste the article but I can't as I'm on my phone, I will when I'm on my computer next.

Anyway in short, 6 animals found left for dead, malnourished, one foal died, now they are all having a much better life, looking healthy been treated well, thanks to racing.

[ozleicester]

http://www.thesun.co...-to-riches.html

I was going to copy and paste the article but I can't as I'm on my phone, I will when I'm on my computer next.

Anyway in short, 6 animals found left for dead, malnourished, one foal died, now they are all having a much better life, looking healthy been treated well, thanks to racing.

Thanks for coming over to the dark side... you are now finding articles that support my opinion.

A little more info... The Society for the Welfare of Horses and Ponies (SWHP) rescued the animals from the rundown stables in Monmouthshire, south Wales, in 2008 after a tip-off...... The man who owned the horses is an ex-RSPCA market inspector but he was never that interested, he would just brag about his race horses..............

they werent rescued by the trainers... they have just managed to exploit them.

Most people regard horse racing as a harmless sport in which the animals are willing participants who thoroughly enjoy the thrill. The truth is that, behind the scenes, lies a story of immense suffering.

Approximately 12,000 foals are born into the closely-related British and Irish racing industries each year, yet only around 50 per cent go on to become racers. Those horses who do not make the grade may be slaughtered for meat or repeatedly change hands in a downward spiral of neglect. Of those horses who do go on to race, around 420 are raced to death every year.

Beneath its glamorous façade, commercial horse racing is a ruthless industry motivated by financial gain and prestige. Cruelty? You can bet on it!

[Webbo]

How can a horse be raced to death? If they were humans it'd be called keeping fit.

[ozleicester]

How can a horse be raced to death? If they were humans it'd be called keeping fit.

really?.. your asking this question?

[Guest BlueBrett]

If it wasn't for the racing industry thoroughbreds wouldn't even exist. Having to run about a bit seems like a small price to pay for your very existence.

[Webbo]

really?.. your asking this question?

Yes, explain to me.

[21st Century Fox]

If it wasn't for the racing industry thoroughbreds wouldn't even exist. Having to run about a bit seems like a small price to pay for your very existence.

They breed monkeys to have perfume sprayed in their eyes. Being breed for a purpose doesn't justify their existence.

[ozleicester]

If it wasn't for the racing industry thoroughbreds wouldn't even exist. Having to run about a bit seems like a small price to pay for your very existence.

Ive bred a child... think i might force it to run until it is exhausted..sit on it... and beat it with a stick, if i hadnt bred it.. it wouldnt even be alive

Yes, explain to me.

Try reading this... http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/NEWS/pr_horse/ALL/202// or google racehorse cruelty

[Webbo]

Try reading this... http://www.animalaid...orse/ALL/202//or google racehorse cruelty

I'm not interested propaganda from pressure groups. Explain to me why being well fed and exercised is cruel.

[Guest BlueBrett]

Ive bred a child... think i might force it to run until it is exhausted..sit on it... and beat it with a stick, if i hadnt bred it.. it wouldnt even be alive

You didn't 'breed' it for a sole purpose. There would still be a use for children (the furthering of the human species for starters) without racing them.

Are you saying that it is less cruel to deliberately bring about the extinction of thoroughbred horses than it is to make them run around a track with a little man sitting on their backs?

[21st Century Fox]

You didn't 'breed' it for a sole purpose. There would still be a use for children (the furthering of the human species for starters) without racing them.

Are you saying that it is less cruel to deliberately bring about the extinction of thoroughbred horses than it is to make them run around a track with a little man sitting on their backs?

Thoroughbreds aren't an endangered species, they've been bred that way, their genus would still live naturally.

Thoroughbred slaves were bred since before the Roman Empire.

[ozleicester]

I'm not interested propaganda from pressure groups. Explain to me why being well fed and exercised is cruel.

The facts and information are there, if you cant be arsed to read it.. then im not going to waste my time explaining the simplicities of cruelty.

You didn't 'breed' it for a sole purpose. There would still be a use for children (the furthering of the human species for starters) without racing them.

Are you saying that it is less cruel to deliberately bring about the extinction of thoroughbred horses than it is to make them run around a track with a little man sitting on their backs?

So.. your fine with doing anything to anything...as long as they are bred for it?

There will still be Horses if we dont race them

[Guest BlueBrett]

Thoroughbreds aren't an endangered species, they've been bred that way, their genus would still live naturally.

Well that's nonsense. Where would they live for starters?

So.. your fine with doing anything to anything...as long as they are bred for it?

I don't think I said that

[Webbo]

The facts and information are there, if you cant be arsed to read it.. then im not going to waste my time explaining the simplicities of cruelty.

I think the word facts may be pushing it a bit.

[21st Century Fox]

Well that's nonsense. Where would they live for starters?

I'm not even saying racing should be banned, personally I'd better regulate it so you don't get greedy, disabled owners putting horses into races it's not capable of competing in and endangering it.

But you can't justify somethings existence based on it's breeding for a purpose. Apply that logic to the monkeys having perfume sprayed in their eyes.

[ozleicester]

Keep it simple...

Facts

• Around 375 horses die on racecourses in Britain each year
  
• 51 fatalities at Aintree since 1991
  
• 5,000 horses enter the racing industry each year
  
• 6,000 horses leave the racing industry each year; there are not enough good homes for these animals
  
• 18,000 foals are bred for racing each year
  

[Webbo]

Keep it simple...

Facts

• 5,000 horses enter the racing industry each year
  
• 6,000 horses leave the racing industry each year;
  

Is it me or does that not add up?

[ozleicester]

Is it me or does that not add up?

apologies, got the numbers round the wrong way.

either way Horse racing is cruel...375 Horses die on the race track in the UK every year

[Webbo]

apologies, got the numbers round the wrong way.

either way Horse racing is cruel...375 Horses die on the race track in the UK every year

People die every year, pet cats and dogs die every year, wild animals die every year. Dying is normal, it's the one thing we can all be certain of.

You can't ban everything just because bad things sometimes happen.

[Guest BlueBrett]

Apply that logic to the monkeys having perfume sprayed in their eyes.

I've never seen anybody spray perfume in a monkey's eye. Why would they?

Even if that does happen (which I doubt) it is hardly comparable to horse racing. Spraying stuff in a creature's face is just blatantly cruel whereas many horses actually enjoy racing. I know you will say how could I possibly know that given that horses don't talk but I'd argue that it is clearly apparent when you look at their body language

[ozleicester]

People die every year, pet cats and dogs die every year, wild animals die every year. Dying is normal, it's the one thing we can all be certain of.

You can't ban everything just because bad things sometimes happen.

The difference is CHOICE... animals die in fields...thats an accident..or natural etc.

A horse dieing in a horse race has no choice, the 10 horses that die racing each week have not chosen to be killed.