Should Horse Racing be banned?

[Kitchandro]

Yes horse racing should be banned because the horses are being unfairly manipulated to race against each other and win people money, just like some of the greyhounds out there. They should have the freedom to live peacefully and not have their lives endangered by competing in a reckless sport.

And why would they be bred for that?

[BoneDog]

Those little midget horses make me laugh. I used to look after a couple of them when there owner went on holiday and I was constantly p*&sing myself.

[iamafox]

And why would they be bred for that?

They should only be bred for casual horse riding, and that is acceptable enough for me.

[Kitchandro]

They should only be bred for casual horse riding, and that is acceptable enough for me.

That doesn't make any money so why would they be bred for that?

Who's going to pay for them for that? If you set them free where are they going to go? Are they going to roam in the middle of nowhere, having a shit life with crap food, no one treating them for diseases, rather than being treated better than most animals in the care of humans?

[iamafox]

That doesn't make any money so why would they be bred for that?

Who's going to pay for them for that? If you set them free where are they going to go? Are they going to roam in the middle of nowhere, having a shit life with crap food, no one treating them for diseases, rather than being treated better than most animals in the care of humans?

Horses shouldn't be bred to race other, I think it's just cruel on them. They don't have a choice even if they don't want to do it. Horses are constantly using their legs during these races and you just think to yourself 'The more they compete, the more they'll hurt their legs and eventually break them.' You can set the horses free as long as you treat them like a friend and that they get provided good food, medication, shelter, etc.

[Kitchandro]

Horses shouldn't be bred to race other, I think it's just cruel on them. They don't have a choice even if they don't want to do it. Horses are constantly using their legs during these races and you just think to yourself 'The more they compete, the more they'll hurt their legs and eventually break them.' You can set the horses free as long as you treat them like a friend and that they get provided good food, medication, shelter, etc.

Well that is total bollocks, they don't break their legs through wear and tear, they break them like any other being.

If you're setting them free how can you look after them? How can you give them shelter and medication?

Why would you pay so much money to look after an animal that doesn't earn you any money?

I don't think you know very much about horses.

How is it cruel to breed and animal, to give it life? How is it cruel to race an animal when by nature it likes running in packs? How is it cruel to treat racehorses like they are treated by their owners and trainers, which is far better than they would be treated otherwise (assuming they'd exist)?

You make out like people are trying to hurt horses, that would be cruel. Trying to race them and trying to hurt them are two very different things.

[iamafox]

Well that is total bollocks, they don't break their legs through wear and tear, they break them like any other being.

If you're setting them free how can you look after them? How can you give them shelter and medication?

Why would you pay so much money to look after an animal that doesn't earn you any money?

I don't think you know very much about horses.

How is it cruel to breed and animal, to give it life? How is it cruel to race an animal when by nature it likes running in packs? How is it cruel to treat racehorses like they are treated by their owners and trainers, which is far better than they would be treated otherwise (assuming they'd exist)?

You make out like people are trying to hurt horses, that would be cruel. Trying to race them and trying to hurt them are two very different things.

Whatever you say smartarse.

[Jimothy]

You're right but I'm just not going to admit it, I'm just going to make a stupid comment.

There, fixed it for you.

[iamafox]

There, fixed it for you.

You want a medal?

[theessexfox]

They aren't trained from birth, they're trained from when they're about 3 or 4.

If you put any kind of obstacle (within reason) in front of a horse they'll jump it. The training is to make them better at it, to do it with better rhythm.

So why are people saying in this thread that not any old horse will jump over an obstacle, just specific horses?

[Kitchandro]

So why are people saying in this thread that not any old horse will jump over an obstacle, just specific horses?

I don't know, I usually try to avoid this thread as it is a bit silly.

I don't really know why such a comment would back up your argument though.

[scottthefox]

Every pleb that reckons it should be banned, fvck off, you know nothing. That is all.

[ozleicester]

You can tell the Animal rights thread has been closed.

I would actually agree with him on this subject, but as it's Oz world and I eat meat I'm not allowed an anti horse racing opinion so I have no option but to vote no.

EDIT: apologies it's not been closed, just no one cares anymore, my mistake!

it would appear someone does

[Ant out of Ant'n'Dec]

I note the Essex Fox ignored my comment which entirely destroyed his argument. Thread therefore closed? Unless he can come up with a sensible argument?

[Mark_w]

I note the Essex Fox ignored my comment which entirely destroyed his argument. Thread therefore closed? Unless he can come up with a sensible argument?

So you are the only two people allowed an opinion?

[Charl91]

I've said it before, but as tragic as horses dying in races is, it pales into insignificance compared to lots of animal cruelty that goes on around the world.

When the bigger problems are sorted out, then I might consider the possibility that Horse racing needs looking at.

[ealingfox]

(Kind-of-tongue-in-cheek Alert)

If you argue that horses have feelings and that, maybe they want to race and become rich, famous champions. Look at Frankel, a constant winner, beloved and adored by so many, a great career, and now he's left to live out a luxury retirement, with a queue of mares literally paying for the privilege of getting a good seeing-to by him.

Beats sitting around in a dark stable waiting to be ridden by snotty kids, or sitting on a farm waiting to die.

So either all horses want to be Frankel, in which case we should let them race, or they don't want to be Frankel, in which case they clearly aren't capable of feelings and we should make them race.

[Ant out of Ant'n'Dec]

So you are the only two people allowed an opinion?

Do you need constant affirmation and re-affirmation that your opinion matters? If you have an opinion, state it.

You're really important and i look forward to hearing it. You are a good person with many good qualities. You do matter.

[Guest MattP]

Every fcuking year all these morons come out who know nothing about the sport.

The Topham is more dangerous than this at the speed they go and no one says a word.

[theessexfox]

Essex Fox - so a horse in a field will never jump over a fence and be killed by say traffic? Or falling awkwardly in a large ditch?

I think you know the answer so maybe best to pretend you never saw this.

Wae'aye man!

I note the Essex Fox ignored my comment which entirely destroyed his argument. Thread therefore closed? Unless he can come up with a sensible argument?

Sorry, missed it

Of course horses die naturally and left alone, but the argument that ozleicester is making (I'm sitting on the fence on this debate, no pun intended) is that they're much more likely to get injured if they're being forced into jumping over fences.

[Matt]

Sorry, missed it

Of course horses die naturally and left alone, but the argument that ozleicester is making (I'm sitting on the fence on this debate, no pun intended) is that they're much more likely to get injured if they're being forced into jumping over fences.

Horses do refuse to jump you know.

[theessexfox]

Horses do refuse to jump you know.

And then get put down?

[Matt]

And then get put down?

News to me.

[Ant out of Ant'n'Dec]

Presumably all football should have been banned when Marc Vivien Foe died on the pitch?

Besides which, horse races are probably the best looked after creatures in the world. They are valued and cherished like no other creatures and that often continues once their horse racing career is over even if not distinguished performers and not put out to stud.

Those who seek to ban it simply don't understand it and make zero effort to.

[ozleicester]

I've said it before, but as tragic as horses dying in races is, it pales into insignificance compared to lots of animal cruelty that goes on around the world.

When the bigger problems are sorted out, then I might consider the possibility that Horse racing needs looking at.

Thousands of people die from cancer every year, but only 350 die of cot death, so we shouldnt bother about sorting out cot death.

Every fcuking year all these morons come out who know nothing about the sport.

The Topham is more dangerous than this at the speed they go and no one says a word.

Umm ok lets ban the Topham too... i know, lets ban horse racing

Sorry, missed it

Of course horses die naturally and left alone, but the argument that ozleicester is making (I'm sitting on the fence on this debate, no pun intended) is that they're much more likely to get injured if they're being forced into jumping over fences.

Not quite, i am saying that horses are dieing for our entertainment and i dont believe that is right.