The War On Drugs

[Wymsey]

Don't understand why some think illegal drugs are needed in their life.

 

Why do they need the stuff, to relax, what?

[Finnaldo]

Don't understand why some think illegal drugs is needed in their life.

Why do they need the stuff, to relax, what?

The same reason people do legal drugs; recreational, pain relieving, relaxing.

[sphericalfox]

Don't understand why some think illegal drugs are needed in their life.

 

Why do they need the stuff, to relax, what?

[Guest Mee-9]

Don't understand why some think illegal drugs are needed in their life.

Why do they need the stuff, to relax, what?

Sure you know all about relaxing mate.

Wymeswold rolling around those hay bales with a rectum the size of china from poppers.

[Buce]

Don't understand why some think illegal drugs are needed in their life.

Why do they need the stuff, to relax, what?

For exactly the same reason that you (I assume) enjoy a pint.

[Freesolo]

Don't understand why some think illegal drugs are needed in their life.

 

Why do they need the stuff, to relax, what?

 

Some people don't find life as easy as others, some have mental health issues that make their world a scary place, certain drugs like opiates for example can numb your pain make you feel good and take you away trom the reality

Some people just take them just to get ****ed up with friends, you work all week in some shitty job you hate and people need a release at the end of the week.

[Freesolo]

Of course there is. Getting nicked for the 1st time with say, half a gram of coke will get you a night in Nick and a formal caution 99% of the time.

And you can disagree all you want regarding alcohol vs hard drugs, it has been studied in depth. Heroin/Crack addiction over the same time period is more harmful to the users body than booze.

I personally know someone who got caught with around a Gram of Coke was arrested for possession and got a £300 fine £75 in court costs and a few other little court fines.

if you ever get caught with class A powders empty it into your jeans/jacket pocket as quick as you can you cannot get charged with having a empty bag

[stix]

if you ever get caught with class A powders empty it into your jeans/jacket pocket as quick as you can you cannot get charged with having a empty bag

ok

[sphericalfox]

I personally know someone who got caught with around a Gram of Coke was arrested for possession and got a £300 fine £75 in court costs and a few other little court fines.

if you ever get caught with class A powders empty it into your jeans/jacket pocket as quick as you can you cannot get charged with having a empty bag

 

Or pour it into your mouth,.  If you're getting a fine, make it worth it.

[OzFox]

Don't understand why some think illegal drugs are needed in their life.

 

Why do they need the stuff, to relax, what?

 

They do it to have a great day 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRu_-9MBpd4

[lestajigs]

I personally know someone who got caught with around a Gram of Coke was arrested for possession and got a £300 fine £75 in court costs and a few other little court fines.

if you ever get caught with class A powders empty it into your jeans/jacket pocket as quick as you can you cannot get charged with having a empty bag

Yea and you would be fuming if they didn't end up searching ya!

[Buce]

A mate of mine was busted for having a wrap of coke in his pocket. He was released on bail pending analysis of the substance. A few weeks later he was informed that there would be no charges as the substance had no coke in it.

He didn't know whether to be relieved at escaping charges, or furious at his dealer for ripping him off.

[stix]

A mate of mine was busted for having a wrap of coke in his pocket. He was released on bail pending analysis of the substance. A few weeks later he was informed that there would be no charges as the substance had no coke in it.

He didn't know whether to be relieved at escaping charges, or furious at his dealer for ripping him off.

[Captain...]

Mate of mine got caught with one pill on him, he got a caution which meant if he got caught with anything again he would be in trouble, but technically he got away with it, and wasn't charged.

I do think we need to be more relaxed towards recreational users, give them a scare and a caution, as long as nothing appears on their record for a first offence.

[Captain...]

The whole debate is a minefield of contradictions because alcohol is legal and other drugs aren't, you look at the neck nominate challenges going round, that is not a society ready for more ways to legally get you fvcked up.

You know if more drugs were legal some people would experiment with ever increasing cocktails of various drugs, the education argument is also blown out of the water when you see some of our best and brightest (students) getting absolutely smashed in more creative ways, including illegal drugs, if they were legal and more easily available then this could escalate.

I'm pretty sure I would have tried a lot more drugs when I was younger had they been easier to get, and I didn't trust nor want to give money to criminals. As shown when magic mushrooms were legal for a while, had a good few weeks because it felt reliable and regulated, I really regret going to the closing down sale though...

But with legalisation you can control, regulate and educate people and people will do it any way, keeping the nasty shit like heroin, crack and meth illegal would mean that kids wouldn't associate with drug dealers who might try and push the more harmful drugs, if they could just get a baggie from boots.

At the moment how many people lose their life in drug related incidents? What are the main causes? Could legalising certain drugs prevent that? How would legalisation work? What restrictions would you have in place? How would issues like mental health be handled?

Too many questions at the moment.

[Guest MattP]

Delighted to say I completely agree with the Captain.

 

Certainly the bit about how we are not a society ready for more ways to legally get you fvcked up.

[Carl the Llama]

The whole debate is a minefield of contradictions because alcohol is legal and other drugs aren't, you look at the neck nominate challenges going round, that is not a society ready for more ways to legally get you fvcked up. [No, it's a society which still doesn't have a grasp of alcohol as a drug but won't consider allowing access to less disastrous chemicals like THC.]

You know [statement of opinion.  You think.] if more drugs were legal some people would experiment with ever increasing cocktails of various drugs, the education argument is also blown out of the water when you see some of our best and brightest (students) getting absolutely smashed in more creative ways, including illegal drugs [citation needed, do you make a habit of hanging out on campuses?], if they were legal and more easily available then this could escalate. [Or you could look at stats from places like the Netherlands and Portugal where the exact opposite has happened.]

 

I'm pretty sure I would have tried a lot more drugs when I was younger had they been easier to get, and I didn't trust nor want to give money to criminals. As shown when magic mushrooms were legal for a while, had a good few weeks because it felt reliable and regulated, I really regret going to the closing down sale though... [And don't you regret never having the chance to develop an educated opinion for yourself?]

But with legalisation you can control, regulate and educate people and people will do it any way, keeping the nasty shit like heroin, crack and meth illegal would mean that kids wouldn't associate with drug dealers who might try and push the more harmful drugs, if they could just get a baggie from boots. [Now we're talking, legalising cannabis would certainly help.  It would also be prudent to adopt a Portugal-style approach to class A's, treating it as a medical instead of a criminal issue.]

At the moment how many people lose their life in drug related incidents? What are the main causes? Could legalising certain drugs prevent that? [Yes, see Portugal.] How would legalisation work? [see USA, The Netherlands] What restrictions would you have in place? [Pretty much the same ones we have now - no sale to under-18s, maybe implement a maximum purchase per customer, though in reality this would just mean people journeying from shop to shop to pick up like they do in The Netherlands right now.] How would issues like mental health be handled? [Much better with people who are currently seen as criminals losing the stigma that prevents them from seeking medical help.  Likewise their friends and family would be more likely to step in and get them help if they didn't think they were giving them a criminal record.]

Too many questions at the moment. [Questions which other countries have been brave enough to try answering instead of demonising their scientists and now provide us with a series of blueprints to work from to get it right.]

[Guest]

Of course there is. Getting nicked for the 1st time with say, half a gram of coke will get you a night in Nick and a formal caution 99% of the time.

And you can disagree all you want regarding alcohol vs hard drugs, it has been studied in depth. Heroin/Crack addiction over the same time period is more harmful to the users body than booze.

 

But is it as dangerous to other people's body's?

[Guest]

The same reason people do legal drugs; recreational, pain relieving, relaxing.

 

Sad, nolife, weak willed, unable to entertain oneself ...

[Carl the Llama]

Sad, nolife, weak willed, unable to entertain oneself ...

Trying to get some fish for your Friday night dinner I see, I wish you luck.

[Guest]

Trying to get some fish for your Friday night dinner I see, I wish you luck.

 

Just my opinion. As leftie as people claim I'm a rightie with drugs. I'd introduce a limit for alcohol imbibition too.

 

Regulation all the way.

[Carl the Llama]

Just my opinion. As leftie as people claim I'm a rightie with drugs. I'd introduce a limit for alcohol imbibition too.

 

Regulation all the way.

I think you mean consumption unless you actually absorb alcohol by diffusing it in through your skin (though I certainly agree we should clamp down on that sort of thing).

 

And I think you'll find you're just as lefty as everyone else who wants currently illegal substances to be regulated.  Right wingers think you shouldn't have that choice at all.

[Guest MattP]

Out of interest what would the limit for alcohol be FIF?

I've been known (though not so much these) to have downed ten pints and 12 double vodkas in a night before I move onto the heavy stuff.

Would that be too much?

[ozleicester]

A mate of mine was busted for having a wrap of coke in his pocket. He was released on bail pending analysis of the substance. A few weeks later he was informed that there would be no charges as the substance had no coke in it.

He didn't know whether to be relieved at escaping charges, or furious at his dealer for ripping him off.

 

or check where the next police party was being held

[Guest]

I think you mean consumption unless you actually absorb alcohol by diffusing it in through your skin (though I certainly agree we should clamp down on that sort of thing).

 

 

 

Broaden your mind Llammy (without those drugs) check a few thesauri and get back to me.