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Nigel Pearson (not a moan, just a question)

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Posted

May as well close the forum for 3 months then.

Why?

That bares no relation to what I said about someone's crappy little, practically pointless post match interview...

Seriously who gives a shit about those 30secs in comparison to the rest of his job

Posted

Why?

That bares no relation to what I said about someone's crappy little, practically pointless post match interview...

Seriously who gives a shit about those 30secs in comparison to the rest of his job

Probably because what he's done in the last six months have been mediocre at best and have been talked about. The last thing that happened is that NP gave an interview and some of us are interested in that ..... but apparently we shouldn't be.

Posted

Why?

That bares no relation to what I said about someone's crappy little, practically pointless post match interview...

Seriously who gives a shit about those 30secs in comparison to the rest of his job

By the way, that crappy, pointless post match interview was the manager of your club speaking to the live coverage that the majority of the fans of the club are listening to. It's also the last one he'll give for 3 months.

I don't think that qualifies as crappy, little or pointless.

Posted

All I'm dismissing is your comment that it's an 'entertainment' industry. It's not, it's a business. Of course entertainment is part and parcel and obviously it's a better experienced for all involved if it's entertaining but when the chips are down the manager and the club can do what they want.

It would be lovely if the manager was 100% honest and told us all his plans for the next 3 months but it doesn't work like that. I'm not saying his interviews and whatnot are great, only that that's way he decides to conduct business. He is obviously totally focused on the team.

You sound like you think the club owe you entertainment.

Exactly this.

It's a simple commercial arrangement.

I pay the £3000 for my season tickets, in return they give me access to my seats and entertain me 23 times a year.

that's the bargain we all strike as fans. Here's my money - in return entertain me.

Whether you are entertained by results at all cost, good football, high scores, close games, is where it becomes your personal value judgement on whether that was worth the money you gave them.

If they want more people at the stadium they play more entertaining / winning football and people want to see it .... play crap football or lose consistently and they don't.

What's hard to understand about this???

Posted

I actually agree with the bulk of what you say, and yes I'd like to judge him on what's important.

What's important is that we have had a below satisfactory result on the pitch since his return. So I'm trying to be excited by the fact that the trend may be positive and that he is showing the attributes to be a more successful manager. I heard that today on the radio with a quite positive end to the season and a good result ..... then he comes out and pops that bubble with a defensive interview in which he sounded childish. It really didn't help to build on that fragile optimism that he'd built.

It's the wording of this which is most interesting - '...since his return...': It's actually become a taboo to use Pearson's past achievements at the club in his defence!

Anyone who supports him (and, to be fair, I could understand you not supporting him, so long as you didn't support Sven either) is implicitly required to justify Pearson on the basis of what he's done in the past five months, while conveniently ignoring the previous two year spell in which he was our most successful manager in six years.

Let's, just for once, remember how good a manager he was for us last time he had a close season.

And, for those who want entertainment as opposed to success, I hear Pasquale is doing Yarmouth Pier this summer. Get on down. Plenty of City managers have come across as lovely guys or funny chaps but they've all been shit. Ferguson and Mourinho are both hideous pustules, but I'm sure we'd hack them.

The last time I laughed with a Leicester manager as opposed to at him ended in the Terence Higgins' Foundation's collective bladder rupturing in the face of Martin O'Neill. And that was fifteen years ago. And for finding that funny, I'll probably go to Hell. The Pearson laugh-o-meter won't sway me.

Posted

Too many of our so called 'fans' are far too fickle and it wouldn't matter how much money we had, how well we were performing or how happy polite and informative our manager was, they'd still find something to moan about.

The simple fact is NP is our manager so we should just get behind him and give 110% of our support. Just like we do for the team week in, week out regardless of how shit they may be playing.

As they say 'In Nige We Trust'

Posted

It's the wording of this which is most interesting - '...since his return...': It's actually become a taboo to use Pearson's past achievements at the club in his defence!

Anyone who supports him (and, to be fair, I could understand you not supporting him, so long as you didn't support Sven either) is implicitly required to justify Pearson on the basis of what he's done in the past five months, while conveniently ignoring the previous two year spell in which he was our most successful manager in six years.

Let's, just for once, remember how good a manager he was for us last time he had a close season.

And, for those who want entertainment as opposed to success, I hear Pasquale is doing Yarmouth Pier this summer. Get on down. Plenty of City managers have come across as lovely guys or funny chaps but they've all been shit. Ferguson and Mourinho are both hideous pustules, but I'm sure we'd hack them.

The last time I laughed with a Leicester manager as opposed to at him ended in the Terence Higgins' Foundation's collective bladder rupturing in the face of Martin O'Neill. And that was fifteen years ago. And for finding that funny, I'll probably go to Hell. The Pearson laugh-o-meter won't sway me.

I just think it's important to differentiate .... in his first spell his remit was very different and under those circumstances I viewed him as very successful and had lot's of time for the bloke. In his second spell the situation has been very different and he hasn't had the same success. I don't think it's fair for me to criticise him per se, so i differentiate between his first successful spell and his second, so far, unsuccessful spell. Just trying to be fair on the bloke.

I'm also not asking for entertaining interviews, as I'm sure people realise, I'm asking him to talk to the fans through the media with some respect.

The entertainment issue on the pitch is a different matter.

Guest shearfox
Posted

it was clear from his interview today he wasn't a happy man I expect several players will be seeing the door in the summer and maybe 5 or so coming in.

Posted

Personally I think entertainment is a by-product of sport and not the purpose.

If people went solely for the purpose of entertainment, then the season we were relegated to League One, the stands would've been empty. But they weren't!

There is a whole, complicated can of worms waiting to be opened if we talk about why people go to football. Words like tribalism, belonging, loyalty, comradeship, pride and the like would be used. I think the amount of people who go just for entertainment would be pretty low.

For instance, if I watch a game on the TV which has no meaning to me, it is purely for entertainment. There are a whole load of the above reason why I forked out £700 today on two season tickets for next season. For the money I will be entertained at times, but I will also be exasperated, frustrated, bored, unfulfilled and sometimes just downright unhappy.

No-one would pay good money for entertainment which so often disappoints and fails to deliver. It's not the reason we go.

Posted

it was clear from his interview today he wasn't a happy man I expect several players will be seeing the door in the summer and maybe 5 or so coming in.

Maybe he was simply drained after a long, hard, stressful season.

And maybe he wasn't looking forward to his immediate next job - which is likely to be giving some players their cards.

Posted

jeebus, ease up, i wasnt saying pearson out or anything bad.. simply stating a fact. Pearson is a MARDY fvcker. He is ALWAYS unpleasant in his interviews and seems scred that Stringer is trying to trick him... just answer the questions.

For goodness sake, if you cant see and hear that Pearson is a difficult interviewee, then you are suffering from some sort of blind and deafness

My brother bumped into him near the Tigers ground, nice bloke and had time for a chat.

Why should he give lots away in an interview about who he wants rid of etc.,

Martin never did or many other managers we have had :P

Posted

He doesn't have the happiest tone in his voice even when he's happy amybe that's his natural tone and can't change it. But I imagine he's pissed off by Stringer asking questions he knows are not going to be answered, perhaps Pearson feels that Stringer should maybe have worked that out by now and stopped asking them.

This is absolutely how I see it. I don't see why he should answer any of Stringer's more prying questions that would only harm the club. Stringer is being reckless at best - a real fan wouldn't want the details he's enquiring about broadcast for all to hear. Though of course he's paid to do a job.

http://youtu.be/eF5dS2xvNrU

Posted

Seems that some people just cannot get beyond an irrational personal dislike of Pearson almost to the point of enjoying defeats. I just don't get it myself; he's a 'proper' manager and does it the professional way. If you don't like his interview's then switch off. I think he's superb and love the edgyness. Always worth listening to. Perhaps I've got an irrational like of him. Top bloke, top manager.

Me too.

I particularly like his hair and his height. If he had a bushy moustache or woolly sideburns he'd be perfect.

Irrationally liking FTW.

Posted

If your manager wished to sack you...would you prefer he let all the staff you work know with before he let you know?

He needs to assess all options, he would look a fool if he said ' i will offer a new contract to darius' and then it turns out that he doesnt want to sign a new contract.

Players have a right to know about their own fate before others do, no matter how much we believe that 'players owe the fans'.

Posted

Stringer is a twat keep asking those sorts of questions. Doesn’t he know football is an entertainment business now ?

Why doesn’t he ask Nigel who his favourite Sugababe is ?

Should Ollie Murs have won X factor ? Stuff like that !

Come on Stringer get with it !

Posted

lol You gotta love this place. No one can blame Nigel for the result so now they're moaning about the tone of Nigel's voice.

Well looked errrrr...... What.......mmmm happened before he was slated for having delusion's

Posted

I care how the team play - I couldn't give a flying feck how media friendly the manager is. Other managers may be a lot more amiable but at the end of the day, very few of them actually give anything away. They almost all avoid the pressing questions but some do it in a charming way whereas Nige is deliberately dour.

Posted

jeebus, ease up, i wasnt saying pearson out or anything bad.. simply stating a fact. Pearson is a MARDY fvcker. He is ALWAYS unpleasant in his interviews and seems scred that Stringer is trying to trick him... just answer the questions.

For goodness sake, if you cant see and hear that Pearson is a difficult interviewee, then you are suffering from some sort of blind and deafness

You have to realize that Pearson is not an intellectual, and is unable to answer questions, which mean exercising his little grey cells.

Eg. "Hello Nigel, how are you"? :jawdrop: :jawdrop: ,"Err, what"?

Posted

Some managers (Dalglish, Ferguson and Wenger come to mind) are equally stroppy with certain sections of the media.

But they have successful records to fall back on, while Pearson does not.

He may get away with bullying Stringer, but the national media would probably be a lot less indulgent if he had to deal with them on a regular basis.

Guest Foxin_mad
Posted

Still, his interviews are better than some of the unfathomable drivel that Sven used to come out with.

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