White girls fair game - differing views.

[Rincewind]

They do not call EVERYONE racists. Only the racists.

[MooseBreath]

They shout loudly about white racism because they view non-whites as cute little innocent puppy dogs who need their protection against the evil and more powerful white men. Just like a lot of white middle class liberals, they don't seem to realise how their patronising ignorance is more offensive and a much deeper form of racism than the largely irrelevent and non-offensive things they shout so loudly about. In other words, the one who smelt it dealt it.

[Dr The Singh]

It says in the first paragraph they weren't working in a gang. The fact that the Asians were working in a gang of friends and relatives and what that says about how such behavior is viewed in their community is the crux of the topic.

Can we not use that word please, 8 or 10 men from porkistan or the 1 from Afghan whatever do not represent a whole continent, it's like calling a nazi german european and labelling all english whites as european!!

I hate that fooking word, what about the chinese, mongols, burmese etc.

[Rincewind]

I don't.

I regard non-whites as no different as I regard anyone else. I could not care less what a persons skin colour race religion creed or sex is unlike some. I am not taken in by scaremongering newspapers.

I was replying to Moose if there is confusion anout Dr Sing posting in between. I agree with the Dr. It is ignoranance of the highest order and a lot are taken in 3when newspapers do it.

[Dr The Singh]

From my meager experience, and my experience with many people from the indian subcontinent, and the fact that the punjab, the place of my heritage was split at the end of the empire from one of predominantly sikh on the indian side and one of muslim on the porkistani side. Although prior to partition both sides had similar heritages and cultures, it's fair to say things are quite different post partition and now.

The muslim majority of the porkistani side have very little respect to non muslims and minorities in general, that goes for there women also.....the kafir is of little value. So comming to Britian, ex porkistanis and next generation british porkistani's are far less integrated in British society, they tend to follow there native culture far more, and hence if they follow there ancestry root's. of non muslim disrespect. Respecting there own makes there own out of bounds and hence makes others fairer game. Majority if non all of indian subcontinent ghetto's are pre-dominantly muslim, I do not know of any Sikh or Hindu ghetto's,....so there location and surrounding white girls from broken families and lower status may tag white girls for being 'low' and 'easy'

Obviously this is a generalisation but I believe there is some truth in it.

[Dr The Singh]

The fact that some young, white girls are vulnerable for various reasons doesn't mean that their being targetted has nothing to do with racial or doctrinal domination. Indeed there is so-much naivity on the subject even though the evidence is pronounced for anyone caring or daring to look.

With the gang mentioned, ask how many muslim girls were exploited. I've heard about none. Their beloved Imams - concerned only with the advancement of Islam - wouldn't tolerate it and it's a pity our own girls don't get the same vigorous protection.

But until we rip up the nonsensical Human Rights Act, get out of Europe and establish our own standards it will never happen.

That's a good point, Thrac, many communities protect there own including Sikhs, reading the article, I only hope the SIkhs can do this for all,

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9299139/Luton-local-Sikh-community-protesting-over-sex-attack-police-failures.html

Luton: local Sikh community protesting over 'sex attack police failures'

Hundreds of members of the Luton Sikh community protested outside local police station amid claims police failed to properly investigate a sex attack on a young woman.

Hundreds of members of the local Sikh community protesting outside a Luton police station. Photo: TWITTER / SIKH24

By Andrew Hough

12:15AM BST 30 May 2012

Police said they were negotiating with the protesters staging the “sit down†protest outside the Buxton Road police station.

It comes after a 19 year-old Sikh woman, who has not been identified, was reportedly beaten and sexually assaulted in the Bedfordshire town by a "Muslim man".

On Wednesday night, Bedfordshire Police confirmed they were “in talks†with the protesters to try and “resolve the situation†amid fears of rising tensions.

Reports suggested that more than 300 locals were involved in the protest because of “lack of action†from police over Monday’s attack.

There were reports that members of the English Defence League were also among the crowd.

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Locals reported that the “community … feels the police could do more with regards to the investigation and current situationâ€.

Concerns were also raised that police were set to release the accused sex attacker amid fears it fuel rising tensions.

Detectives have arrested a man, who has not been identified, in connection with the attack.

On Tuesday night a Bedfordshire police spokesman said: “Police in Luton are currently in talks with members of the Sikh community who are holding a sit down protest outside the Buxton Road police station this evening (Tues May 29).

“Their concerns follow a report that a young woman from their community was sexually assaulted yesterday (Mon May 28).

“The allegation is currently subject of an investigation and all parties involved are being spoken with to establish the facts.â€

She added: “One man has been arrested in connection with the allegation and enquiries continue.

“Police are working to resolve the situation this evening with the community leaders.â€

Police declined to comment further or disclose the nationality of the arrested man.

[Rincewind]

I try not to generalise. Where I live in South Highfields there is the biggest mix of religions races etc in all of leicester and the people seem to get alonf with each other OK. The Near Neighbours project shown in the video I posted proves it. I know it was Church based and for an atheist to support something church run seems strange but I don't look on it as any credit to any one faith but people coming together as normal every day folk.

There has been a book published about how communities have lived together here for over 100 years different races coming and going. If a small place like South Highfields can do it why can't others try. To a blind man we all look the same.

[Captain...]

They shout loudly about white racism because they view non-whites as cute little innocent puppy dogs who need their protection against the evil and more powerful white men. Just like a lot of white middle class liberals, they don't seem to realise how their patronising ignorance is more offensive and a much deeper form of racism than the largely irrelevent and non-offensive things they shout so loudly about. In other words, the one who smelt it dealt it.

You do realise the writer of the article was not white middle class as you seem to think they are the only ones able to see through the mail's shit stirring and scaremongering, or did you not read the article again? For someone who claims to be immune to marketing you sure do get sucked into a witch hunt easily.

[Rincewind]

Lord Sugar â€@Lord_Sugar

@rickygervais one of my first projects on twitter was to run a survey. "which paper do you hate the most " Daily Mail came out on top.

Lord Sugar â€@Lord_Sugar

@rickygervais trouble is the empty Daily Mail building would be haunted with bad karma not good for a orphanage,maybe sewage cycling plant

I was looking for a convo where they decided to buy the Mail because it was hated so much and turn it into a paper with positve stories butthen said it would not sell.

[hejammy]

Dr Singh - please do not bring religious animosity into this. First of all calling the country 'porkistan' is very degrading and very racist. Pakistan is for the most very welcoming towards other religions, lots of Christians, Hindus and Sikhs live there and have lived there all their lives in relative peace. Just cause Sikhs and Muslims have a terrible history, do not jump on the 'muslim' bashing bandwagon. Get over it! As far as the rape and assault cases go I think you will find most people including Muslims will strongly condemn their actions. These people need to be put behind bars if found guilty. Also don't even try to say this stuff doesn't happen in the punjab region! Get off your high horse!

[hejammy]

Oh and the comment about Indian 'ghettos' being predominantly muslim - to put it crudely - what a load of rubbish (bollocks) with 80% of India being Hindus, 13% being muslim, you think only 13% of India is the 'ghetto'? Yes you seem to know what your talking about! NOT!

[Rincewind]

I doubt anyone has watched that video. The ones involved come from all faiths and they worked together. If they can do it why not everyone else.

Leave the religion behind and look at the person.

[absolutelegend]

If there is a problem that seems to occur more prevalently in one section of society, and if one of the characteristics of that section is 'race' then I think its right that this is explored and discussed. IMO it would be wrong not to.

Whether there is a direct relationship between race and this problem I don't know. Anecdotal evidence suggests there is. However, it's certainly right that it is investigated and addressed if found to be an issue.

Keith Vazz is wrong to dismiss this out of hand and potentially irresponsible.

[Dr The Singh]

Oh and the comment about Indian 'ghettos' being predominantly muslim - to put it crudely - what a load of rubbish (bollocks) with 80% of India being Hindus, 13% being muslim, you think only 13% of India is the 'ghetto'? Yes you seem to know what your talking about! NOT!

I'm talking about ghetto's in the UK, numpty.....

Read:

http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1061340.html

[Dr The Singh]

Dr Singh - please do not bring religious animosity into this. First of all calling the country 'porkistan' is very degrading and very racist. Pakistan is for the most very welcoming towards other religions, lots of Christians, Hindus and Sikhs live there and have lived there all their lives in relative peace. Just cause Sikhs and Muslims have a terrible history, do not jump on the 'muslim' bashing bandwagon. Get over it! As far as the rape and assault cases go I think you will find most people including Muslims will strongly condemn their actions. These people need to be put behind bars if found guilty. Also don't even try to say this stuff doesn't happen in the punjab region! Get off your high horse!

Piss off, and stop telling me what to do or say, if you don'y like it don't read it..........

Facts speak for themselves, what do amnesty international, UN and other bodies think of the treatment of minorities in Pakistan, why is it on every place on the planet where Sikhs have gone have prospered, except Porkistan. Here's a fact for you, in India SIkhs make up up around 20% of a million plus armed force and in Porkistan there is 1 Sikh officer, I wonder why, there's more SIkhs in the Malaysian army which is also a predominantly muslim state???????

What about UK prisons, out of the Indian subcontinent, which group has the largest % population of prisoners I wonder?????????????

The fact is Pakistani mulsims have an issue with integration in the UK, there ghettos are rising, there education standards are dropping whether that be a minority. IMO stems from where they come from but both Porkistan and India i full are of ****wit racists, but Indians per say have a different outlook!!!!

It's nothing to do with history or the muslim card, these are observations which evaluate my perception my friend.

[Captain...]

Piss off, and stop telling me what to do or say, if you don'y like it don't read it..........

Facts speak for themselves, what do amnesty international, UN and other bodies think of the treatment of minorities in Pakistan, why is it on every place on the planet where Sikhs have gone have prospered, except Porkistan. Here's a fact for you, in India SIkhs make up up around 20% of a million plus armed force and in Porkistan there is 1 Sikh officer, I wonder why, there's more SIkhs in the Malaysian army which is also a predominantly muslim state???????

What about UK prisons, out of the Indian subcontinent, which group has the largest % population of prisoners I wonder?????????????

The fact is Pakistani mulsims have an issue with integration in the UK, there ghettos are rising, there education standards are dropping whether that be a minority. IMO stems from where they come from but both Porkistan and India i full are of ****wit racists, but Indians per say have a different outlook!!!!

It's nothing to do with history or the muslim card, these are observations which evaluate my perception my friend.

I don't really understand the "porkistan" thing, but I am pretty sure it is not meant as complementary, especially with the way muslims view pork, and by continuously using you it you really do invalidate any genuine point you may have and come across as antagonistic and a bit of a ****, which is a shame because that is not normally the case with your posts.

[hejammy]

From my meager experience, and my experience with many people from the indian subcontinent, and the fact that the punjab, the place of my heritage was split at the end of the empire from one of predominantly sikh on the indian side and one of muslim on the porkistani side. Although prior to partition both sides had similar heritages and cultures, it's fair to say things are quite different post partition and now.

The muslim majority of the porkistani side have very little respect to non muslims and minorities in general, that goes for there women also.....the kafir is of little value. So comming to Britian, ex porkistanis and next generation british porkistani's are far less integrated in British society, they tend to follow there native culture far more, and hence if they follow there ancestry root's. of non muslim disrespect. Respecting there own makes there own out of bounds and hence makes others fairer game. Majority if non all of indian subcontinent ghetto's are pre-dominantly muslim, I do not know of any Sikh or Hindu ghetto's,....so there location and surrounding white girls from broken families and lower status may tag white girls for being 'low' and 'easy'

Obviously this is a generalisation but I believe there is some truth in it.

I'm talking about ghetto's in the UK, numpty.....

Read:

http://www.rferl.org...le/1061340.html

Ok so in your first post you write "Majority if non all of indian subcontinent ghetto's are pre-dominantly muslim, I do not know of any Sikh or Hindu ghetto"

Your grammer isn't the best granted, however I interpret that to read "Majority if noT all of indian subcontinent ghetto's are pre-dominantly muslim, I do not know of any Sikh or Hindu ghetto's "

Implying that you are indeed talking about the indian subcontinant - so say again - who's the numpty?

[hejammy]

Piss off, and stop telling me what to do or say, if you don'y like it don't read it..........

Facts speak for themselves, what do amnesty international, UN and other bodies think of the treatment of minorities in Pakistan, why is it on every place on the planet where Sikhs have gone have prospered, except Porkistan. Here's a fact for you, in India SIkhs make up up around 20% of a million plus armed force and in Porkistan there is 1 Sikh officer, I wonder why, there's more SIkhs in the Malaysian army which is also a predominantly muslim state???????

What about UK prisons, out of the Indian subcontinent, which group has the largest % population of prisoners I wonder?????????????

The fact is Pakistani mulsims have an issue with integration in the UK, there ghettos are rising, there education standards are dropping whether that be a minority. IMO stems from where they come from but both Porkistan and India i full are of ****wit racists, but Indians per say have a different outlook!!!!

It's nothing to do with history or the muslim card, these are observations which evaluate my perception my friend.

Again I am asking you to stop using the word "Porkistan" if you continue to do so I WILL report your for inciting religious hatred, wouldn't it be a shame if you got arrested?

If you think the treatment of minorities in Pakistan is bad, try South Korea, China, Russia even other Eastern European Countries. I'm sorry but this is not simply about how Sikhs are treated, Having visited Pakistan recently I assure you the majority of the Sikhs are living happily with the Muslims of the country. So your talking about not integrating with the country? Your religion forbids you to Drink and to eat meat, yet most of you do, if your happy to ignore/go against your religion to integrate to society then fine. You will find most Muslims will not sell out their religion but will integrate with society in all other means. In Pakistan there are lots of Churches and Temples so I don't see them treating the minority too badly? Articles twenty, twenty-one and twenty-two in chapter two of its constitution guarantees religious freedom to the non-Muslim residents - taken from wikipedia

The fact remains that why do you have to incite the Muslims Vs Sikhs "war"? GET OVER IT AND STOP JUMPING ON THE BANDWAGON!

[Alf Bentley]

I don't really understand the "porkistan" thing, but I am pretty sure it is not meant as complementary, especially with the way muslims view pork, and by continuously using you it you really do invalidate any genuine point you may have and come across as antagonistic and a bit of a ****, which is a shame because that is not normally the case with your posts.

Spot on, Captain! Dr. the Singh has a valid and important point about segregated Muslim communities in Britain. So why distract attention from a good point with gratuitous insults designed to foment sectarian hatred?! I'm aware of the historic conflicts on the subcontinent, but why stir them up in the UK - particularly on a forum frequented by impressionable youths, some of whom might be open to a pretext for racial hatred? You've always seemed a reasonable bloke in your previous posts, Dr., so why this? I suppose it does help me to understand the obscenity of Sikhs participating in EDL/BNP marches!

Behind the poison, though, Dr. the Singh's main point is a good one. The places where there has been racial conflict usually involve segregated Muslim communities living near poor white communities (e.g. West Yorks/East Lancs). If there is a big growth in Muslim communities (likely), plus economic hard times (also likely), then continued segregation becomes a massive problem. It could also have a massive adverse effect in Leicester (census shows 18% population growth 2001-2011; partly a rise in Muslim communities?). I'm old enough to remember the late 70s when there was massive support (up to 30%+) for the National Front in Leicester, at a time when the community of Indian/East African origin was quite new.

A (Muslim) lecturer once stressed to us the importance of INTER-CULTURALISM (i.e. contact and understanding between different communities). That's neither anti-multiculturalism nor anti-integration. If people want to express their cultural difference, so much the better; if they want to integrate, so much the better....provided they have contact with one another, and develop respect and understanding.

How you achieve that is more difficult, especially in times of austerity & cuts:

- Ban all faith schools, in favour of fully mixed education (children are less bigoted than adults)?

- An active policy for mixed communities through council housing (less potential as fewer houses now)?

- Encourage inter-community events (fairs, sports & cultural events etc)?

- Education (of children and adults)...in cultural/religious views AND human/women's rights?

- English language classes for non-English speakers?

- Tackle long-term unemployment and entrenched poverty as a No.1 priority?

- Confront bigotry everywhere (inc. contempt for vulnerable white women & fomenting anti-Muslim hatred)

People start off in ignorance, but they don't start off as bigots. As a white kid (of Irish origin) from a 99.9% white community, in the early 70s I remember car rides through London, "spotting" Sikhs, who were as exotic as giraffes to my innocent/ignorant brain. Educating kids to be open and tolerant is important, but what about adults? In hard times, history shows that segregation is a time-bomb...

[Darkon84]

Spot on, Captain! Dr. the Singh has a valid and important point about segregated Muslim communities in Britain. So why distract attention from a good point with gratuitous insults designed to foment sectarian hatred?! I'm aware of the historic conflicts on the subcontinent, but why stir them up in the UK - particularly on a forum frequented by impressionable youths, some of whom might be open to a pretext for racial hatred? You've always seemed a reasonable bloke in your previous posts, Dr., so why this? I suppose it does help me to understand the obscenity of Sikhs participating in EDL/BNP marches!

Behind the poison, though, Dr. the Singh's main point is a good one. The places where there has been racial conflict usually involve segregated Muslim communities living near poor white communities (e.g. West Yorks/East Lancs). If there is a big growth in Muslim communities (likely), plus economic hard times (also likely), then continued segregation becomes a massive problem. It could also have a massive adverse effect in Leicester (census shows 18% population growth 2001-2011; partly a rise in Muslim communities?). I'm old enough to remember the late 70s when there was massive support (up to 30%+) for the National Front in Leicester, at a time when the community of Indian/East African origin was quite new.

A (Muslim) lecturer once stressed to us the importance of INTER-CULTURALISM (i.e. contact and understanding between different communities). That's neither anti-multiculturalism nor anti-integration. If people want to express their cultural difference, so much the better; if they want to integrate, so much the better....provided they have contact with one another, and develop respect and understanding.

How you achieve that is more difficult, especially in times of austerity & cuts:

- Ban all faith schools, in favour of fully mixed education (children are less bigoted than adults)?

- An active policy for mixed communities through council housing (less potential as fewer houses now)?

- Encourage inter-community events (fairs, sports & cultural events etc)?

- Education (of children and adults)...in cultural/religious views AND human/women's rights?

- English language classes for non-English speakers?

- Tackle long-term unemployment and entrenched poverty as a No.1 priority?

- Confront bigotry everywhere (inc. contempt for vulnerable white women & fomenting anti-Muslim hatred)

People start off in ignorance, but they don't start off as bigots. As a white kid (of Irish origin) from a 99.9% white community, in the early 70s I remember car rides through London, "spotting" Sikhs, who were as exotic as giraffes to my innocent/ignorant brain. Educating kids to be open and tolerant is important, but what about adults? In hard times, history shows that segregation is a time-bomb...

Has potential to be post of the day. +1

[Dr The Singh]

Spot on, Captain! Dr. the Singh has a valid and important point about segregated Muslim communities in Britain. So why distract attention from a good point with gratuitous insults designed to foment sectarian hatred?! I'm aware of the historic conflicts on the subcontinent, but why stir them up in the UK - particularly on a forum frequented by impressionable youths, some of whom might be open to a pretext for racial hatred? You've always seemed a reasonable bloke in your previous posts, Dr., so why this? I suppose it does help me to understand the obscenity of Sikhs participating in EDL/BNP marches!

Behind the poison, though, Dr. the Singh's main point is a good one. The places where there has been racial conflict usually involve segregated Muslim communities living near poor white communities (e.g. West Yorks/East Lancs). If there is a big growth in Muslim communities (likely), plus economic hard times (also likely), then continued segregation becomes a massive problem. It could also have a massive adverse effect in Leicester (census shows 18% population growth 2001-2011; partly a rise in Muslim communities?). I'm old enough to remember the late 70s when there was massive support (up to 30%+) for the National Front in Leicester, at a time when the community of Indian/East African origin was quite new.

A (Muslim) lecturer once stressed to us the importance of INTER-CULTURALISM (i.e. contact and understanding between different communities). That's neither anti-multiculturalism nor anti-integration. If people want to express their cultural difference, so much the better; if they want to integrate, so much the better....provided they have contact with one another, and develop respect and understanding.

How you achieve that is more difficult, especially in times of austerity & cuts:

- Ban all faith schools, in favour of fully mixed education (children are less bigoted than adults)?

- An active policy for mixed communities through council housing (less potential as fewer houses now)?

- Encourage inter-community events (fairs, sports & cultural events etc)?

- Education (of children and adults)...in cultural/religious views AND human/women's rights?

- English language classes for non-English speakers?

- Tackle long-term unemployment and entrenched poverty as a No.1 priority?

- Confront bigotry everywhere (inc. contempt for vulnerable white women & fomenting anti-Muslim hatred)

People start off in ignorance, but they don't start off as bigots. As a white kid (of Irish origin) from a 99.9% white community, in the early 70s I remember car rides through London, "spotting" Sikhs, who were as exotic as giraffes to my innocent/ignorant brain. Educating kids to be open and tolerant is important, but what about adults? In hard times, history shows that segregation is a time-bomb...

My Porkistani thing is very tongue in cheek, and I hate the work PAKI in Pakistan!!! Nothing to do with sectrain hatred, I have no issues with muslims or Pakistanis per say. I'm shocked my observations are taken as such.

I don't think there has been any Sikhs in BNP marches, EDL definitely, infact Guramit Singh is quite high in EDL ranks...........and yes I agree it is due to there hatred of muslims due to there heritage background and history. Which I totally do not endorse, but unfortunately many Sikhs have this ingrained hatred for muslims.

Agree with everything you have said afterwards but tolerance and equality must come both sides

[Dr The Singh]

Again I am asking you to stop using the word "Porkistan" if you continue to do so I WILL report your for inciting religious hatred, wouldn't it be a shame if you got arrested?

If you think the treatment of minorities in Pakistan is bad, try South Korea, China, Russia even other Eastern European Countries. I'm sorry but this is not simply about how Sikhs are treated, Having visited Pakistan recently I assure you the majority of the Sikhs are living happily with the Muslims of the country. So your talking about not integrating with the country? Your religion forbids you to Drink and to eat meat, yet most of you do, if your happy to ignore/go against your religion to integrate to society then fine. You will find most Muslims will not sell out their religion but will integrate with society in all other means. In Pakistan there are lots of Churches and Temples so I don't see them treating the minority too badly? Articles twenty, twenty-one and twenty-two in chapter two of its constitution guarantees religious freedom to the non-Muslim residents - taken from wikipedia

The fact remains that why do you have to incite the Muslims Vs Sikhs "war"? GET OVER IT AND STOP JUMPING ON THE BANDWAGON!

Don't threaten me, I told you once.

I don't understand your point, were talking about people from the indian sub continent NOT the whole world. You've not written anything that counters my point.

What has SIkhs drinking got to do with sexual crimes from people from muslim p**kstani origin. What a Sikh or anyone does in there free time, whether that be pubs, clubs churches got to do with anything, that's there choice. Integrating into society does not men drinking etc, obviously this is a concept you do not understand!!

Where have I mentioned any war, WHAT INCITEMENT, i have not mentioned anything that isn't proven by history or fact......, are you saying the plight of ethnic minorities in the indian sub continent should not be highlighted and swept under the carpet. Why don't you ask the like s Kareem Abdul Jabaar and others on this forum about my general views. I'm very critical not just muslims, but my own kind.

You need to grow up and read what I have said, not what you think I have said!

[Dr The Singh]

Ok so in your first post you write "Majority if non all of indian subcontinent ghetto's are pre-dominantly muslim, I do not know of any Sikh or Hindu ghetto"

Your grammer isn't the best granted, however I interpret that to read "Majority if noT all of indian subcontinent ghetto's are pre-dominantly muslim, I do not know of any Sikh or Hindu ghetto's "

Implying that you are indeed talking about the indian subcontinant - so say again - who's the numpty?

You missed the bit about 'SO COMMING TO BRITAIN..' at the beginning of the paragraph!!!!! Read it again!!!

[Dr The Singh]

I don't really understand the "porkistan" thing, but I am pretty sure it is not meant as complementary, especially with the way muslims view pork, and by continuously using you it you really do invalidate any genuine point you may have and come across as antagonistic and a bit of a ****, which is a shame because that is not normally the case with your posts.

It's notmeant in a hatred way, it's more tongue in cheek, but your right if not known it could be determined as provokative. Hence I will stop using it!!!

I am an arse, to be honest, not liked by many, but my points are valid. The other guy thinks there due to hatred, but as far as i'm concerned, there are factual. I'm honest enough to say India has a worse human rights record against minorities then P**kistan, but this topic is about youths from that background!!

[davieG]

It's notmeant in a hatred way, it's more tongue in cheek, but your right if not known it could be determined as provokative. Hence I will stop using it!!!

I am an arse, to be honest, not liked by many, but my points are valid. The other guy thinks there due to hatred, but as far as i'm concerned, there are factual. I'm honest enough to say India has a worse human rights record against minorities then P**kistan, but this topic is about youths from that background!!

You are an arse but I like you.