White girls fair game - differing views.

[BoneDog]

Of course it is racially motivated and Vaz is a complete tos*er !!

Yes Vaz is probably a tos*er, but so is that other woman Barsi or whoever people tend to be saying is 'cool'. They are one and the same except Vaz is probably a little lower on the ladder.

[BoneDog]

F@&*ing hell, do people really want us to publish a list of white pedo and sex grooming cases? There are thousands of them. There are at least 10 cases I've seen of BNP folk on similar sick charges.

It's not a Pakistani thing, it's not an English thing, it's not a male thing, it's bloody worldwide and it involves 'normal' men and women from all walks of life.

[Captain...]

Presumably you're clever enough to come to your own conclusion but you think there is a danger that the rest of us are too thick to think for ourselves?

Yes I think you are all morons, that is why I spend so much time on here to make myself feel superior.

Or I take FT as a microcosm of real life and there are all sorts on here, some of which are younger and more impressionable, and read things like Muslim gangs raping white girls and take it at face value. There is already a culture of islamophobia in this country and I think I am within my right to question people making such generalised statements, labelling all Muslims or all Pakistanis as rapists.

[Webbo]

Yes I think you are all morons, that is why I spend so much time on here to make myself feel superior.

Or I take FT as a microcosm of real life and there are all sorts on here, some of which are younger and more impressionable, and read things like Muslim gangs raping white girls and take it at face value. There is already a culture of islamophobia in this country and I think I am within my right to question people making such generalised statements, labelling all Muslims or all Pakistanis as rapists.

You seem to think that none of us should discuss things you disagree with in case we all turn into racists.

[MooseBreath]

F@&*ing hell, do people really want us to publish a list of white pedo and sex grooming cases? There are thousands of them. There are at least 10 cases I've seen of BNP folk on similar sick charges.

It's not a Pakistani thing, it's not an English thing, it's not a male thing, it's bloody worldwide and it involves 'normal' men and women from all walks of life.

I refer you to my earlier post where I pointed out that 40 of the 46 recent convictions for group grooming have been Pakistani. So unless you have some statastics on crime that the police don't...

[Daggers]

Paeodophiles are literally the worst types of people

Your type of people are always generalising.

[Captain...]

You seem to think that none of us should discuss things you disagree with in case we all turn into racists.

No, I want people to back up there claims, so they don't sound like reactionary racists as moosebreath has done now and I now understand better the concerns he has about how widespread this in Pakistani communities.

[Father Ted]

Keith Vaz in protecting that Pakistani Community in return for more votes SHOCKER!

A bellend of the highest order..Fvcking vile man and I'm sure a few people on here know about certain antics that he's been up to that never even made the papers.

Obviously there is so much that I can say before it become libel or whatever you call it so I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut but I'm sure plenty of people have info on him.

W*NKER

[FoxyPV]

It's not a Pakistani thing, it's not an English thing, it's not a male thing, it's bloody worldwide and it involves 'normal' men and women from all walks of life.

It's overwhelmingly a male thing, based on a conplete disregard for womne.

People who profess to people be religious can be rapists too.

[Daggers]

I think it is all Dave the Caveman's fault.

There, I've said it, it's out in the open...it's the real reason he got banned and no mistake - the is a You Tube clip all about it although the camera is a bit shaky and someone put a big blurry thumbprint in the middle of the lens.

[Guest]

But until we rip up the nonsensical Human Rights Act, get out of Europe and establish our own standards it will never happen.

The same Human Rights Act based on the same European Convention on Human Rights drafted by British lawyers, at the instigation of that proud British man Winston Churchill, and consequently imposed upon the Council of Europe?

Yeah, we should totally disregard that piece of trash. Pah!

[Daggers]

I hope "our standards" aren't Thracian's standards.

[Steven]

The same Human Rights Act based on the same European Convention on Human Rights drafted by British lawyers, at the instigation of that proud British man Winston Churchill, and consequently imposed upon the Council of Europe?

Yeah, we should totally disregard that piece of trash. Pah!

Article 10 – Freedom of expression

1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises.

2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.

That has so many restrictions as to render it impotent. We need more freedoms and not fewer which seems to the norm nowadays.

[Guest]

That has so many restrictions as to render it impotent. We need more freedoms and not fewer which seems to the norm nowadays.

The restrictions are there for reasons of control, not as a result of the ECHR.

[Daggers]

That has so many restrictions as to render it impotent. We need more freedoms and not fewer which seems to the norm nowadays.

Odd that someone asking for more freedoms and less restrictions deletes comments or infracts people simply because he is the butt of them.

[Guest]

Odd that someone asking for more freedoms and less restrictions deletes comments or infracts people simply because he is the butt of them.

ooooh!

[Dan]

I'm not even bothering commenting about the OP. The second you mention 'Muslim' on this site there are that many do gooders who can't wait to play the race card.

Unfortunately, people like this breed the racial divide much more than they think they're stopping it.

On a side note, I fully agree with that.

[Thracian]

I hope "our standards" aren't Thracian's standards.

My standards don't really come into it. Given the opportunity I'd happily put either notion to the country, whereas the socialists wouldn't want a vote on anything they don't think they'd win, as has been amply demonstrated on countless occasions.

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[Thracian]

The same Human Rights Act based on the same European Convention on Human Rights drafted by British lawyers, at the instigation of that proud British man Winston Churchill, and consequently imposed upon the Council of Europe?

Yeah, we should totally disregard that piece of trash. Pah!

Your words not mine and, while the act is grossly flawed whoever drafted it my point is that, given chance, I'd not have Europe preside over courtroom decisions concerning British prosecutions at all. I'd be out of Europe and would never have conceded the powers that we have in the first place. Europe moves by deceit rather than democratic consensus at the best of times.

[Daggers]

My standards don't really come into it. Given the opportunity I'd happily put either notion to the country, whereas the socialists wouldn't want a vote on anything they don't think they'd win, as has been amply demonstrated on countless occasions.

Come on Tony - at least get a book out or search the internet to check the basics before posting.

Tories took us into Europe, Labour gave the country its only referendum (of which 66% voted to remain in Europe) and it's Tories again who have refused to deliver the referendum they promised.

Fvcking socialists my arse.

[Guest MattP]

Come on Tony - at least get a book out or search the internet to check the basics before posting.

Tories took us into Europe, Labour gave the country its only referendum (of which 66% voted to remain in Europe) and it's Tories again who have refused to deliver the referendum they promised.

Fvcking socialists my arse.

Fair points it has to be said.

The real stain on Camerons era so far remains that election promise of giving is the referendum that he has failed to deliver.

[Guest]

Fair points it has to be said.

The real stain on Camerons era so far remains that election promise of giving is the referendum that he has failed to deliver.

Cameron is the stain on his "era".

[Guest MattP]

Cameron is the stain on his "era".

Think he's done a pretty fair job to be honest considering what he was left with.

[Guest]

Think he's done a pretty fair job to be honest considering what he was left with.

Well given your tendancies you would.

[Guest MattP]

Well given your tendancies you would.

I'm not always been a Tory voter you know, I've switched between a couple of parties in my time.

He's taken over from a government who took over one of the strongest economies in Europe and left it with a debt our grandchildren will be paying off, it's going to be a quite a job to sort it out. Don;t get it into your head any other government is going to reverse the cuts that are going to happen because we simply can't afford otherwise.