Guest Posted 22 May 2012 Posted 22 May 2012 Debt is a capitalist fundamental. If there is one "great" that MT instilled in the children of Britain it's that "Debt is the route to affluency" As for Western economies debt is irrelevant it's the ability to service the debt that matters.
Daggers Posted 22 May 2012 Posted 22 May 2012 Well given your tendancies you would. I don't see what Matt's mouse-wanking has to do with anything?
Zingari Posted 22 May 2012 Posted 22 May 2012 When you come to think about the actual words , white chicks are fair game.
Guest BlueBrett Posted 22 May 2012 Posted 22 May 2012 Tories took us into Europe, Labour gave the country its only referendum (of which 66% voted to remain in Europe) and it's Tories again who have refused to deliver the referendum they promised. They voted to remain in the 'Common Market'. Virtually incomparable to the modern EU.
Daggers Posted 22 May 2012 Posted 22 May 2012 They voted to remain in the 'Common Market'. Virtually incomparable to the modern EU. Irrelevant to my point at Thracian though.
Guest BlueBrett Posted 22 May 2012 Posted 22 May 2012 Irrelevant to my point at Thracian though. Oh yeh sorry. I've grown so lazy I barely read threads any more I just sort of point my eyes at them
Zingari Posted 22 May 2012 Posted 22 May 2012 Oh yeh sorry. I've grown so lazy I barely read threads any more I just sort of point my eyes at them I thought it was a point well worth raising about the EU though, because although we did have a referendum , we were told it wasn't going to be binding , so really it was no more than a stunt .( we've seen that some countries had to carry on voting until they got right outcome) Initially I thought, like everybody else, that we had joined a common market. And what would be nice and more friendly and sensible and economically wise to do? But since then, in 1975 when we had the vote to remain in that so we were told, it’s become one or two things further than just a common market. It then became, a few years later, a European Economic Community. Then a European Community. It’s now the European Union with all sorts of control and restrictions and regulations. it seems whichever colour was in power at the time , the same old steamrollering of further integration was going to continue. I'm not sure of the relevance in this thread though
1964FOX Posted 22 May 2012 Posted 22 May 2012 Debt is a capitalist fundamental. If there is one "great" that MT instilled in the children of Britain it's that "Debt is the route to affluency" As for Western economies debt is irrelevant it's the ability to service the debt that matters. Ah someone else that realises what this government is doing as nothing to do with austerity, most are still being fooled but there are cracks appearing. But remember we are all in it together well all of us who aren't rich are in it together.
Guest Posted 23 May 2012 Posted 23 May 2012 Your words not mine and, while the act is grossly flawed whoever drafted it my point is that, given chance, I'd not have Europe preside over courtroom decisions concerning British prosecutions at all. I'd be out of Europe and would never have conceded the powers that we have in the first place. Europe moves by deceit rather than democratic consensus at the best of times. 1) The HRA is not flawed. It merely serves to give us jurisdiction in our courts to apply the ECHR, thereby reducing the number of cases going to the ECtHR. 2) The ECHR is not flawed. You, along with many others, don't agree with the interpretation and evolution of some of it. 3) The application of the ECHR and the administration of the EU are two completely separate bodies. If we left the EU, we would still be bound by the ECHR as members of the Council of Europe. 4) Don't you think it's hypocritical that having told the rest of Europe how to behave, we then stick up our middle finger to those principles?
Bellend Sebastian Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Heard the one about the white paedophile gang in Cornwall? The one in Derby? No, didn't think so: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/22/how-racism-takes-root
purpleronnie Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Heard the one about the white paedophile gang in Cornwall? The one in Derby? No, didn't think so: http://www.guardian....cism-takes-root sssshhhhhhhhh....this is no place for a balanced view.
Captain... Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Heard the one about the white paedophile gang in Cornwall? The one in Derby? No, didn't think so: http://www.guardian....cism-takes-root Interesting if slightly biased piece, the comments also make for interesting reading. One thing that I do think is that every time there is a crime or incident that has aggression from one "race" to another, we need to stop playing the race card in the media, unless it is an expressly race orientated attack, a Pakistani muslim peado preying on a white girl is no more or less abhorrent than a white Christian peado doing the same thing. Even if the term "white trash" is used, it doesn't necessarily mean that race or skin colour was the motivation for the attack. We need to be encouraging the acceptance of all races and colours and promoting the harmonious living that most of us enjoy with our less reflective neighbours, not trying to cause panic and hatred across communities, but that doesn't sell papers.
MooseBreath Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 It says in the first paragraph they weren't working in a gang. The fact that the Asians were working in a gang of friends and relatives and what that says about how such behavior is viewed in their community is the crux of the topic.
Darkon84 Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Interesting if slightly biased piece, the comments also make for interesting reading. One thing that I do think is that every time there is a crime or incident that has aggression from one "race" to another, we need to stop playing the race card in the media, unless it is an expressly race orientated attack, a Pakistani muslim peado preying on a white girl is no more or less abhorrent than a white Christian peado doing the same thing. Even if the term "white trash" is used, it doesn't necessarily mean that race or skin colour was the motivation for the attack. We need to be encouraging the acceptance of all races and colours and promoting the harmonious living that most of us enjoy with our less reflective neighbours, not trying to cause panic and hatred across communities, but that doesn't sell papers. Black cvnts. *shakes fist*
MPH Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Ok lets just get one thing straight. anyone of any colour, from any nation in this world can commit a sex crime at any time anywhere. ANYONE. But it does seem so that then when it happens to be men of Pakistani/ Asian origin, they seem to be attracted to white girls... And no, i am NOT saying all men who come from that area are perverts... and anyone who dares to think that quite frankly ought to be shot. My neice goes to a school where the white kids are very much a minority. Not a criticism, They just are.. Yet she has a line of Asian boys lining up for her whilst ( in my opinion) even more pretty girls of Asian origin are ignored. ALL the white girls are popular there, she said.
Captain... Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Ok lets just get one thing straight. anyone of any colour, from any nation in this world can commit a sex crime at any time anywhere. ANYONE. But it does seem so that then when it happens to be men of Pakistani/ Asian origin, they seem to be attracted to white girls... And no, i am NOT saying all men who come from that area are perverts... and anyone who dares to think that quite frankly ought to be shot. My neice goes to a school where the white kids are very much a minority. Not a criticism, They just are.. Yet she has a line of Asian boys lining up for her whilst ( in my opinion) even more pretty girls of Asian origin are ignored. ALL the white girls are popular there, she said. Well white girls are fitter... In all seriousness, the way these girls are groomed it is normally from hanging around bars and being on the streets late at night, underage drinking and such like, most of the girls targeted by both whites and asians were in care and were a bit off the rails, typically asian children, especially asian girls, live with much stricter parents, and normally have much tighter family and community ties, so don't end up in care as much and won't be out on the streets late at night and present themselves as a target to peados. Disclaimer: These are opinions formed by reading things, including, but not limited to, the above article and not from any direct experiences as an asian girl or a peado, so may not be factually or statistically correct.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 It says in the first paragraph they weren't working in a gang. The fact that the Asians were working in a gang of friends and relatives and what that says about how such behavior is viewed in their community is the crux of the topic. ...and in a later paragraph it states the Penzance ones were. You've lost me there Moosey. You may be on to something there. No-one can mention Fred and Rosemary West without me thinking that maybe I could have done more about all those people they killed
MooseBreath Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 ...and in a later paragraph it states the Penzance ones were. You've lost me there Moosey. You may be on to something there. No-one can mention Fred and Rosemary West without me thinking that maybe I could have done more about all those people they killed In Penzance it was a secretive paedophile ring who communicated through messages left in public toilets. They clearly knew what they were doing was wrong and did not want their community to find out about it. Contrast that with the Asians who operate openly in groups of friends and family. No secrecy needed because they and their local community don't see anything wrong with raping white kids.
Captain... Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 In Penzance it was a secretive paedophile ring who communicated through messages left in public toilets. They clearly knew what they were doing was wrong and did not want their community to find out about it. Contrast that with the Asians who operate openly in groups of friends and family. No secrecy needed because they and their local community don't see anything wrong with raping white kids. Can you back that last claim up, because the articles I read had the community leaders condemning them and distancing themselves from their actions, can't find link at the moment.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Can you back that last claim up, because the articles I read had the community leaders condemning them and distancing themselves from their actions, can't find link at the moment. Indeed. There may have been a group of like-minded individuals acting with apparent immpunity within their own circle but to assume that circle and their local community based on faith or ethnicity or whatever are one and the same seems like a big jump to me
MooseBreath Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Indeed. There may have been a group of like-minded individuals acting with apparent immpunity within their own circle but to assume that circle and their local community based on faith or ethnicity or whatever are one and the same seems like a big jump to me It might be a big jump, it might not. I have no idea. Clearly not every Asian or Muslim or whoever is going to condone that kind of crime, but perhaps it is more accepted in those communities than it is in others. By how much, I don't know, but the casual open way in which friends and relatives were commiting these evil acts surely allows one to be totally justified in wondering if there can be so much smoke without a fire without being branded a racist?. My personal experience leads me to believe that it is a massive problem, but I have no proof other than anecdotes. Either way, that's the distinction between the cases and that's why the Asian gang rapists got a lot more attention than other cases which may have seemed similar on the surface.
Rincewind Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Please note who this project was set up by. http://youtu.be/a0l37WkFZjE Careful of that woman with the hood she might have a bomb under her dress.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Keith Vaz, is an out and out w----r. :yesyes:
ADK Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Not surprised to see the Guardian calling everyone a racist.
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