ozleicester Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 Shameful i know (im PAP) but the good mrs OZ just asked what the leaves/flowers on the badge on my City shirt are meant to represent? I honestly dont know...anyone got the answer... what are they, and why are they there?
Webbo Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 Shameful i know (im PAP) but the good mrs OZ just asked what the leaves/flowers on the badge on my City shirt are meant to represent? I honestly dont know...anyone got the answer... what are they, and why are they there? It's a tudor rose which is part of the City of Leicester's crest.
ozleicester Posted 4 June 2012 Author Posted 4 June 2012 It's a tudor rose which is part of Leicester's crest. Brill thanks... so part of Leicester "the City"...therefore incorporated into the clubs crest?..and why os the Tudor rose part of the City crest?
Webbo Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 It's something to do with the War of the Roses, I'm not sure which side we were on.
Webbo Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 Actually it says this on Wiki; Coat of arms Coat of arms, Leicester The Corporation of Leicester's coat of arms was first granted to the city at the Heraldic Visitation of 1619, and is based on the arms of the first Earl of Leicester, Robert Beaumont. The field is a white cinquefoil on a red background, and this emblem is used by the city council. After Leicester became a city again in 1919, the city council applied to add to the arms, permission for which was granted in 1929, when the supporting lions, from the Lancastrian Earls of Leicester, were added. The motto "Semper Eadem" was the motto of Queen Elizabeth I, who granted a royal charter to the city. It means "always the same" but with positive overtones meaning unchanging, reliable or dependable. The crest on top of the arms is a white or silver legless wyvern with red and white wounds showing, on a wreath of red and white. The legless wyvern distinguishes it as a Leicester wyvern as opposed to other wyverns. The supporting lions are wearing coronets in the form of collars, with the white cinquefoil hanging from them.
ozleicester Posted 4 June 2012 Author Posted 4 June 2012 It's something to do with the War of the Roses, I'm not sure which side we were on. Im guessing the Tudor side We went along to the 525 aniversary of the Battle Of Bosworth... what a day
Orkneyfox Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 Nicked from Wikipedia, The Wars of the Roses were a series of dynastic civil wars fought between supporters of two rival branches of the royal House of Plantagenet: the houses of Lancaster and York (whose heraldic symbols were the "red" and the "white" rose, respectively) for the throne of England. We must have been Lancastrians - red rose and Earl of Leicester, none of them tudors at that stage, rival Plantagenets. Final victory went to the Lancastrian Henry Tudor, which is when it switched to that lot, long before our current germano-greek ruling pair.
Mike the Metal Ed Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 While we're at it, does anyone know how old the flag of Leicestershire is? Is it at all historic or did the council cobble one together because everyone else had a flag?
foxfanazer Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 I love our badge for some reason. So do I, think we are lucky to have such a good one! There are some shockers out there
ElbertTheFox Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 So do I, think we are lucky to have such a good one! There are some shockers out there Wolves' one for instance
foxfanazer Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 Wolves' one for instance Yep and Bolton! What's that one all about?
Saxondale Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 While we're at it, does anyone know how old the flag of Leicestershire is? Is it at all historic or did the council cobble one together because everyone else had a flag? Cobbled together to keep up with the Jones-shires, I believe. EDIT: I was wrong - it's 80 years old apparently. http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/couldn-t-fly-Leicestershire-flag/story-12037578-detail/story.html
Kitchandro Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 So if we were the red rose, why is the rose in fact white? Our motto is typically uninspiring, and quite fitting sadly
The Year Of The Fox Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 Actually it says this on Wiki; Coat of arms Coat of arms, Leicester The Corporation of Leicester's coat of arms was first granted to the city at the Heraldic Visitation of 1619, and is based on the arms of the first Earl of Leicester, Robert Beaumont. The field is a white cinquefoil on a red background, and this emblem is used by the city council. After Leicester became a city again in 1919, the city council applied to add to the arms, permission for which was granted in 1929, when the supporting lions, from the Lancastrian Earls of Leicester, were added. The motto "Semper Eadem" was the motto of Queen Elizabeth I, who granted a royal charter to the city. It means "always the same" but with positive overtones meaning unchanging, reliable or dependable. The crest on top of the arms is a white or silver legless wyvern with red and white wounds showing, on a wreath of red and white. The legless wyvern distinguishes it as a Leicester wyvern as opposed to other wyverns. The supporting lions are wearing coronets in the form of collars, with the white cinquefoil hanging from them. I thought it was referring to our team. ie, shit
Finnegan Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 It's not a Tudor rose, or even a rose at all. It's a cinquefoil, as clarified by one of the above wikipedia links and it pre-dates the War of the Roses by some three hundred years. It's the coat of arms of the Earl of Leicester. Edit: Here, a cinquefoil and a rose in heraldry: Note how the rose has an inner-flower, while the cinquefoil (as with the arms of Leicester) does not. The white Tudor rose appears on Leeds' badge, not ours.
Leicester_Numan Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 It's not a Tudor rose, or even a rose at all. It's a cinquefoil, as clarified by one of the above wikipedia links and it pre-dates the War of the Roses by some three hundred years. It's the coat of arms of the Earl of Leicester. Edit: Here, a cinquefoil and a rose in heraldry: Note how the rose has an inner-flower, while the cinquefoil (as with the arms of Leicester) does not. The white Tudor rose appears on Leeds' badge, not ours. Exactly. No idea why they thought that was a rose. Especially a Tudor rose which is RED
Zingari Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 Semper Eadem means Blame Wellens edit; cinquefoil ( potentilla)is a member of the rose family though
Leicester_Numan Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 King Richard was from the York house and had the white rose, Henry Tudor was from the Lancastrian house and had the red rose before anyone starts
Leicester_Numan Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 And yes, the Wars of the Roses started over an argument about dropping Wellens
Zingari Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 And yes, the Wars of the Roses started over an argument about dropping Wellens Ritchie the Turd ?
Zingari Posted 4 June 2012 Posted 4 June 2012 Lord Melchett. no it was Richard the 3rd I'm sure Blackadder was scrupulously correct with historic content http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvXKukgk034
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