21st Century Fox Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 Bruce Willis is eyeing a legal bid to ensure he can pass on his iTunes library to his children when he dies, according to the Daily Mail.The Die Hard star is concerned that his extensive music collection will revert to Apple ownership on his demise and is looking into ways that might allow his three daughters, Rumer, Scout and Tallulah, to legitimately inherit it. His lawyers are currently said to be looking at the possibility of setting up "family trusts" to act as legal holders of the downloaded music, but Willis is also prepared to consider taking Apple to court over the issue. "Lots of people will be surprised on learning all those tracks and books they have bought over the years don't actually belong to them," solicitor Chris Walton told the Mail. "It's only natural you would want to pass them on to a loved one. The law will catch up, but ideally Apple and the like will update their policies and work out the best solution for their customers." Willis is also considering supporting legal action currently underway in five US states to give people more rights to share music they have purchased. The actor, a keen music lover and musician, who had a UK No 2 hit in 1987 with his cover version of the Drifters' Under the Boardwalk, reportedly owns thousands of hours' worth of music on various iPods. http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/sep/03/bruce-willis-apple-itunes-library There's actually a really good point about the digital age there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 http://www.guardian....-itunes-library There's actually a really good point about the digital age there. I don't use Itunes so I'm not sure about this, but how can they take it away, or is it that it is not transferable, so they would need access to Daddy's computer and folders of porn, including some of their mummy. They can't come in and wipe your Ipod, but I guess they could lock the account, I would be very surprised if this wasn't resolved very quickly. Apple would be on to a PR disaster if loved actor Bruce Willis can't pass on things he has bought to his ridiculously named kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st Century Fox Posted 3 September 2012 Author Share Posted 3 September 2012 I don't use Itunes so I'm not sure about this, but how can they take it away, or is it that it is not transferable, so they would need access to Daddy's computer and folders of porn, including some of their mummy. They can't come in and wipe your Ipod, but I guess they could lock the account, I would be very surprised if this wasn't resolved very quickly. Apple would be on to a PR disaster if loved actor Bruce Willis can't pass on things he has bought to his ridiculously named kids. It's non-transferable, like most things we buy digitally they're locked into whichever account purchased them. Any agreement reached here could potentially set a precedent for all digital marketplaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleronnie Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 I dont have a clue when it comes to mp3 but cant he put all his music on his hard drive and just give it to the kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st Century Fox Posted 3 September 2012 Author Share Posted 3 September 2012 I dont have a clue when it comes to mp3 but cant he put all his music on his hard drive and just give it to the kids? Not if it's been purchased from iTunes. You'd need the account details of whom ever bought them, which you'd assume would eventually become void once they passed away anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 Cant he just leave the email and password for the account to his kid.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James. Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 I have a piece of software called Sharepod that means I can transfer music to and from an iPod on to or from my (or anyone else's) hard drive. Why couldn't he just use that? It works directly between iPod and PC, you don't need iTunes to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleronnie Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 Not if it's been purchased from iTunes. You'd need the account details of whom ever bought them, which you'd assume would eventually become void once they passed away anyway. so if you buy an mp3 from itunes you can only listen to it on your pc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 All this is why I never use iTunes and hate Apple. There are plenty of other legit sources of downloadable music that are both cheaper and more flexible in terms of usage - why anyone uses iTune baffles me. Actually the reason is obvious - Apple are such a big name that people genuinely believe that it's the only or safest way of downloading music, which patently is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st Century Fox Posted 3 September 2012 Author Share Posted 3 September 2012 Cant he just leave the email and password for the account to his kid.... I have a piece of software called Sharepod that means I can transfer music to and from an iPod on to or from my (or anyone else's) hard drive. Why couldn't he just use that? It works directly between iPod and PC, you don't need iTunes to use it. He wants it to be a legitimate transfer like any other inheritance. Just handing over the account details isn't exactly legitimate as the actual owner of that account and payment card holder would be dead. It's not exactly ideal to have to convert or digitally transfer thousands of hours of music for something you've paid for. You wouldn't have any issue leaving a vinyl collection in your will, so why should digital goods be any different. so if you buy an mp3 from itunes you can only listen to it on your pc? I think you can authorise a couple of machines to play your music on but you'd have to be signed into your account to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleronnie Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 He wants it to be a legitimate transfer like any other inheritance. Just handing over the account details isn't exactly legitimate as the actual owner of that account and payment card holder would be dead. It's not exactly ideal to have to convert or digitally transfer thousands of hours of music for something you've paid for. You wouldn't have any issue leaving a vinyl collection in your will, so why should digital goods be any different. I think you can authorise a couple of machines to play your music on but you'd have to be signed into your account to do that. Thats wank why is itunes so popular then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 Thats wank why is itunes so popular then? Same reason as Coke and McDonalds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleronnie Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 Same reason as Coke and McDonalds. Not really. If something has huge limitations then why use them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st Century Fox Posted 3 September 2012 Author Share Posted 3 September 2012 Not really. If something has huge limitations then why use them? I assume it's because it was the default marketplace for the iPod which was the MP3 player for a long time and the restrictions didn't really bother anybody and people rarely change their habits unless forced to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorak Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 He could use his Die Hard 5 cheque to order some cd's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 It's the same when you buy a pc with windows OS on it you can't subsequently use it on another pc if the first one packs up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 Thats wank why is itunes so popular then? I installed it for someone at work the other day, and showed them how to use it, having never used it in my life before. I can understand why it's popular as the interface is very easy to set up and use, and if you just have your own ipod and you stick that in a dock, and then plug it into the car, or take it for a jog and never actually try and move your digital collection around then you'd probably not notice the mental levels of control freakery built into it. You notice it when, for example, someone nicks your laptop with all your music on, and you try and copy the contents of your ipod back onto the replacement and itunes says no, only the stuff you've bought from us. If I'd spent hundreds of hours ripping my CD collection (like my girlfriend had), I'd be livid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James. Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 It's not exactly ideal to have to convert or digitally transfer thousands of hours of music for something you've paid for. You wouldn't have any issue leaving a vinyl collection in your will, so why should digital goods be any different. Transferring music from an iPod to a PC using the software I mentioned hardly takes any time at all. A court case with Apple sounds much more inconvenient. Just don't get why it's a big issue when there are easy solutions out there. You notice it when, for example, someone nicks your laptop with all your music on, and you try and copy the contents of your ipod back onto the replacement and itunes says no, only the stuff you've bought from us. If I'd spent hundreds of hours ripping my CD collection (like my girlfriend had), I'd be livid Pretty sure Sharepod would overcome that problem as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st Century Fox Posted 3 September 2012 Author Share Posted 3 September 2012 Transferring music from an iPod to a PC using the software I mentioned hardly takes any time at all. A court case with Apple sounds much more inconvenient. Just don't get why it's a big issue when there are easy solutions out there. it's the principle of having paid for something and then not really owning it. It's like paying for a car and then when you die it can't be driven by whoever you bequeath it to. Sharepod doesn't actually strip the DRM from the files purchased in iTunes anyway does it? So you'd still have to have a account authorised machine to play them on. It's besides the point of doing something legitimate with something you've legitimately purchased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 Transferring music from an iPod to a PC using the software I mentioned hardly takes any time at all. A court case with Apple sounds much more inconvenient. Just don't get why it's a big issue when there are easy solutions out there. Pretty sure Sharepod would overcome that problem as well. If it had been mine, I probably would have used that or one of the other solutions there are that I looked up (she couldn't be arsed), but it's this imposition on you of a whole world of unnecessary time wasting that gets on my tits. An ipod is some flash memory or a hard drive with some software on it to play mp3s and an output stage, there's no need for all this crap to 'manage' the device Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 Not really. If something has huge limitations then why use them? Marketing, in that way it is the same as Coke and McDonald's, apple have branded their ipod and itunes to the point where everyone believes they are superior even when in some cases they are not and have serious limitations. Even though I generally don't buy apple stuff, I still think they are the best in the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADK Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 Anyone who buys their stuff from Apple deserves this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 Anyone who buys their stuff from Apple deserves this. In a similar way that anyone who eats at McDonalds every day deserves a coronary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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