The media led public agenda / September 11th

[Captain...]

I still think September 11th is the biggest event (outside of my personal and family life) in my life so far. I don't think I'll ever forget it, regardless of media coverage in this Country. Nobody can prevent terrorists, and the next attack could be tomorrow, next month or next year.

I'm sure everyone alive pre-9/11 will always remember (it's one of those events, "where were you?"), and I'm sure that people born post-9/11 will know about it. One thing's for sure, let's hope this thread doesn't turn out like the 7/7 thread which was eventually closed. Ultimately, 9/11 was another sick and horrible attack undertaken by terrorists, which resulted in 3,000 innocent death's (and thousands more post-9/11). RIP.

But 7/7 should be bigger, ok less casualties, but more relevant to us, as it was an attack on our home soil, but 9/11 and the aftermath, and the way it is used and abused by Politicians and the Media in the states is pretty sick. I am very proud of the way we just got on with it after those attacks. We didn't let it stop us, or scare us.

We didn't let it change us, it could have become our 9/11, but it didn't.

[whoareyaaa]

Well the Goverment runs the media so blame them.

I still think September 11th is the biggest event (outside of my personal and family life) in my life so far. I don't think I'll ever forget it, regardless of media coverage in this Country. Nobody can prevent terrorists, and the next attack could be tomorrow, next month or next year.

I'm sure everyone alive pre-9/11 will always remember (it's one of those events, "where were you?"), and I'm sure that people born post-9/11 will know about it. One thing's for sure, let's hope this thread doesn't turn out like the 7/7 thread which was eventually closed. Ultimately, 9/11 was another sick and horrible attack undertaken by terrorists, which resulted in 3,000 innocent death's (and thousands more post-9/11). RIP.

You would think it would be mentioned on the News as like you say it was a major attack but then I wonder how all the innocent Iraq's feel when there country was getting bombed everyday for oil I bet there has been way more than 3,000 innocent deaths.

I think the more shocking truth is that their is a high possibility that it was an inside job, which makes it even worse plus the Goverment runs the media so they put out what they want us to see and hear.

But it is still a trajic event.

[Bellend Sebastian]

@DustinSlaughter on Twitter has helpfully compiled a list of reports on warnings prior to 9/11 that were ignored by the US authorities.

An interesting collection, if nothing else

[Guest BlueBrett]

Well the Goverment runs the media so blame them.

more like the other way round

[Finnegan]

Well if that's your attitude you might as well stop posting on ft.

Seriously.

No really.

Most likely matey.

[Webbo]

Which is why Im surprised to hear nothing about it today. The news etc has been full of nothing but fear and war since that day. An easy opportunity for the media or the American government to stir up more fear or hatred going unused? Thats a little worrying.

You're worried that the media/govt are not stirring up fear and hatred?

[DB11]

No documentaries either

[Fox92]

@DustinSlaughter on Twitter has helpfully compiled a list of reports on warnings prior to 9/11 that were ignored by the US authorities.

An interesting collection, if nothing else

Yep. Seen this on the news earlier. Basically said Bush didn't take them seriously, which I don't get, especially considering the World Trade Centre was attacked in 1993 (or whenever it was).

[The Year Of The Fox]

I'd be very amazed if people have forgotten the date because the media haven't reported it

[Guest]

The World did change that day.

Just look at Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan.. The Arab Spring, The price of oil, the use of fear as a political tool etc etc etc.

It changed for you and some others maybe.

It didn't change for me.

There are far worse atrocities that have taken place over the last two decades but they weren't media worthy nor as close to your home.

[Mack]

You're assuming that if it isn't in the media then it's not being thought about, there's loads of stuff that's in the media that i couldn't care less about (e.g celebrity shit) and there's even more that i think about that's important to me that never gets mentioned in the media.

No that's not my assumption at all.

What I am saying is that what is being talked about in most households is what is on the news.

Once the media drops a story it tends to drift away and fade for most people apart from those who it personally effects.

What's more worrying are the motives that the media drive a story.

I agree with those who say that in their lifetime this was the biggest historical event. This applies to me also, and it should always be remembered just how evil humans can be to each other.

[Mack]

It changed for you and some others maybe.

It didn't change for me.

There are far worse atrocities that have taken place over the last two decades but they weren't media worthy nor as close to your home.

You sound like you think I am some kind of small minded western looking idiot.

I am not.

And this event has had more direct effect on your life than any other that is not personally connected to you.

It's changed the World you live in forever.

It says on your profile you live in France. I visit France very often, I have friends there, and the tensions between the Islamic communities there and the wider population have been deteriorating and becoming more violent since 9/11.

[Guest]

You sound like you think I am some kind of small minded western looking idiot.

I am not.

And this event has had more direct effect on your life than any other that is not personally connected to you.

It's changed the World you live in forever.

It says on your profile you live in France. I visit France very often, I have friends there, and the tensions between the Islamic communities there and the wider population have been deteriorating and becoming more violent since 9/11.

I'm simply disagreeing with you.

It HASN'T changed my life AT ALL. and neither has it changed the world "I" live in as much as many other acts over the last century. I'm surprised that it has affected you as much as it has - though clearly it has had a devastating effect on your life.

Considering the Algerian war and the fact that North Africa was mostly colonial France I'll have to disagree with you about the affect of 9/11 on violence and any deteriorating situation between the "Islamic community" and the "wider population".

This is not saying that you are wrong, it's saying that I disagree with you - btw I've lived here for 20 years.

[whoareyaaa]

Non topic really as its made the headline news.

[Jordan]

Well the world didn't change on that day. Maybe the Americans and some others in the west realised that they are not as safe as they thought they were, that not only second and third world countries could be attacked and have horrors on their streets.

I'd say your second sentence reflects a massive paradigm shift--and that's not even counting the changes in thought the second and third world, plus the ensuing global war which the 9/11 attacks sparked.

[ADK]

I actually forgot it was today(yesterday). I don't think that's a bad thing, 9/11 was just a terorist attack that happened to kill an awful lot of people. I never bought into this idea that we need a "war on terror", the irony is that our involvement in Iraq partly led to the 7/7 bombings taking place.

[Mack]

I'm simply disagreeing with you.

It HASN'T changed my life AT ALL. and neither has it changed the world "I" live in as much as many other acts over the last century. I'm surprised that it has affected you as much as it has - though clearly it has had a devastating effect on your life.

Considering the Algerian war and the fact that North Africa was mostly colonial France I'll have to disagree with you about the affect of 9/11 on violence and any deteriorating situation between the "Islamic community" and the "wider population".

This is not saying that you are wrong, it's saying that I disagree with you - btw I've lived here for 20 years.

And you have the right to disagree with me.

Just remember, they are called freedom fries now.

[MC Prussian]

11 years after September, 11th.

I still remember quite clearly where I was and what I was doing that day in fall 2001.

[SOCCERROO FOX]

I think it's more due to the fact there is nothing new we haven't already read about September 11.

[Darkon84]

You're worried that the media/govt are not stirring up fear and hatred?

You perhaps shouldnt take it so literally that you think im cowering in fear and worry over it. However, I do find it strange that they overlooked an easy opportunity to bring it up and get people angry about it etc. Though as someone else said, we are riding the crest of a wave of Murray/Olympic fever and they didnt want to bring it down too early. Easy news but in another direction.

[Guest]

And you have the right to disagree with me.

Just remember, they are called freedom fries now.

And there were no WMD in Iraq.

[Webbo]

You perhaps shouldnt take it so literally that you think im cowering in fear and worry over it. However, I do find it strange that they overlooked an easy opportunity to bring it up and get people angry about it etc. Though as someone else said, we are riding the crest of a wave of Murray/Olympic fever and they didnt want to bring it down too early. Easy news but in another direction.

Or maybe they've got no interest in scaring people for no reason.

[Zingari]

Or maybe they've got no interest in scaring people for no reason.

quite right !

Of course governments and the media don’t want to scare us for no reason.

When they want to scare us it’s for very good reasons.

Usually to bring in legislation such as anti terrorism laws of stop and search and detention without trial, homeland security , patriot act, id cards or to start wars by telling lies about WMDs.

[Webbo]

quite right !

Of course governments and the media don’t want to scare us for no reason.

When they want to scare us it’s for very good reasons.

Usually to bring in legislation such as anti terrorism laws of stop and search and detention without trial, homeland security , patriot act, id cards or to start wars by telling lies about WMDs.

I don't doubt that scare stories are occasionally used to convince us of a certain course of action when (the powers that be decide) it's necessary but Darko was accusing the govt of using the anniversary of 9/11 to control and then complaining that they weren't. Maybe there's no reason to scare us at the minute?

[Captain...]

Just thinking about the thread title, surely it is the public lead media agenda.

Which makes a nice change, right now good news sells, especially when it comes to sport, I'm sure there could have been a lot of cynical criticising articles on the Olympics, the cost the gaffes, remember the Korean flag mix up, there were plenty more little things like that, G4S debacle, the fact it has not lifted the economy.

But right now the people want good news to keep this feel good factor going, big front page stories on 9/11 would not do that. So is it the media leading the public or public leading the media?