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Claims that Jimmy Savile was a nonce

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http://www.bbc.co.uk...t-arts-19776872

I think its significant that a person working for the BBC actually walked in on him and a 'young teenager'....

Not JUST a group of girls with no witnesses making accusations now....

Jimmy Savile accused of sexual abuse

_63202586_savilegetty.jpg Sir Jimmy Savile was also known for his charity workContinue reading the main story

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Sir Jimmy Savile has been accused of sexual abuse against underage teenage girls in an ITV1 documentary to be shown on Wednesday.

Exposure: The Other Side of Jimmy Savile will include several interviews with alleged victims of the DJ and TV presenter, who died last year.

Sir Jimmy was never charged with any abuse offences during his lifetime.

One complaint was made to Surrey Police in 2007 but following an investigation, no further action was taken.

Sir Jimmy, who presented shows including Top of the Pops and Jim'll Fix It, died in 2011 at the age of 84.

The abuse is alleged to have taken place in a number of places including hospitals, schools and BBC buildings.

In a statement, the BBC said no evidence of allegations on its premises had been found.

'Expected to pay'

"The BBC has conducted extensive searches of its files to establish whether there is any record of misconduct or allegations of misconduct by Sir Jimmy Savile during his time at the BBC. No such evidence has been found.

"Whilst the BBC condemns any behaviour of the type alleged in the strongest terms, in the absence of evidence of any kind found at the BBC that corroborates the allegations that have been made it is simply not possible for the corporation to take any further action."

In the ITV1 programme, to be broadcast on Wednesday at 2310 BST, former detective Mark Williams-Thomas conducts his own investigation into the allegations.

ITV said it had taken into full account the fact Sir Jimmy was not alive to defend the claims.

One woman named Fiona, who was 14 at the time, said she was one of several girls from her school who were invited to ride in the presenter's Rolls Royce.

"I knew the moment he asked me to stay in the car with him, I knew what was expected of me. Because I was having this wonderful day out and I was expected to pay for it. And that's what I did.

'Too frightened'

"I now know it was wrong and I can still get very angry about it, but nobody believed me then, so I don't expect anybody to believe me now if I'm honest."

Another woman, who remains anonymous, said she met Sir Jimmy at the BBC in 1969, when she was 15.

She claims he indecently assaulted her "probably dozens of times".

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What upsets me so much is that not one of these children could ask for helpâ€

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"I think when he was alive I would have been too frightened to have spoken out... there was always that air that he had power and that he had contacts and you wouldn't want to mess with him. So I would never have come out openly about it before."

Sue Thompson was a newsroom assistant at BBC Leeds at the time Jimmy Savile was presenting the regional Speakeasy programme in 1978.

When asked to help out on the show, she walked into the star's dressing room after a recording and says she was shocked when she saw Sir Jimmy with a young teenager.

"I would have said something before if I'd had the courage or conviction that perhaps something would have been done about it. But it has been difficult to speak about it, just because of who Jimmy Savile was," she told the documentary.

Esther Rantzen, who worked as a television presenter at the BBC at the same time Savile was at the height of his fame in the 1970s, said there were rumours about the star.

After watching the alleged victims' evidence as part of the documentary, Rantzen said she believed the testimonies and now thinks the rumours were true.

Concern over 'legacy'

"Before I watched these I had absolutely decided I would not make up my mind because he's not here to defend himself - it seems utterly unfair," she said.

"I must say that what these women say is so matter-of-fact, they corroborate each other. The style of the abuse and the attack on them was consistent one with each other. I'm afraid the jury isn't out any more and what upsets me so much is that not one of these children could ask for help.

"The abuse of power was as great as the sexual abuse."

But Sir Jimmy's niece Amanda McKenna, of Kirkstall, Leeds, told the Yorkshire Evening Post: "The documentary-makers should be ashamed of themselves cashing in on a man who is dead and cannot defend himself."

And his nephew, Roger Foster, from Goole in East Yorkshire, said he was concerned the allegations could damage the reputation of charities Sir Jimmy raised funds for.

"The guy hasn't been dead for a year yet and they're bringing these stories out," he said.

'Care and consideration'

"It could affect his legacy, his charity work, everything. I'm very sad and disgusted."

An ITV spokesman said: "This documentary is the result of an in-depth investigation into long-standing allegations of serious and widespread sexual misconduct by Sir Jimmy Savile.

"Because of the very serious nature of the claims made by several interviewees in relation to this, particular care and consideration was of course given to the decision to produce and broadcast this programme."

For more than six decades, Sir Jimmy was one of Britain's most established showbusiness figures and a leading charity worker.

The country's first pop disc jockey, Sir Jimmy was also a seasoned television presenter, marathon runner, Mensa member, wrestler and fundraiser.

He was instantly recognisable in his trademark tracksuit and chunky jewellery.

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*Goes to find surprised face*

lol

yeah i know....

Could he now be in Hell bumming Michael Jackson ?

Jimmy only liked girls...

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that HIGNFY outtake/minutes whatever, reads like a load of bs. (Audience laughs nervously)

Probably because it is. Ian Hislop has denied it ever happened.

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I heard he used to drop his track suit bottoms and say.. " how's about that then guys and gals? " you would make that tarzan call if you were being sucked off by a 14 year old ..

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I don't understand people suggesting that he was some sort of mega-celebrity & in an "untouchable" position. It's not like he was a member of the Royal family.

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I heard he used to drop his track suit bottoms and say.. " how's about that then guys and gals? " you would make that tarzan call if you were being sucked off by a 14 year old ..

You need help.

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I don't understand people suggesting that he was some sort of mega-celebrity & in an "untouchable" position. It's not like he was a member of the Royal family.

Perhaps not, but it does seem as though he had the right people on his side. Esther Rantzen isn't far off saying the BBC hushed rumours up and made him untouchable within that organisation.

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Thought this was already common knowledge?

Remember the Louis Theroux programme, sick weird fcuker.

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They are all starting to chip in now...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/paul-gambaccini-claims-sir-jimmy-savile-used-charity-work-to-prevent-sexual-abuse-of-schoolchildren-being-exposed-8191761.html

Broadcaster Paul Gambaccini has added to the claims that Sir Jimmy Savile sexually abused schoolchildren, claiming the star used his charity work and ‘imperial personality’ within show business to prevent his private life being exposed.

Speaking ahead of a forthcoming ITV documentary that claims Savile abused schoolgirls during his many years of stardom, Gambaccini said his former Radio 1 colleague played tabloid newspapers “like a Stradivarius†in order to keep the abuse secret.

Exposure: The Other Side of Jimmy Savile, which is due to be screened on Wednesday night, will detail claims from women that the late television personality sexually abused school girls in his Rolls-Royce and at BBC Television Centre. The allegations date back to the 1970s.

Click here to read: 'Sir Jimmy Saville defended paedophile pop star Gary Glitter saying 'he did nothing wrong' and calling child porn just 'dodgy films''

Speaking on ITV1’s Daybreak programme this morning, Gambaccini said he had been waiting 30-years for the allegations to come out.

He alleged that at one point Saville was about to be exposed by a tabloid newspaper, but quickly arranged an interview with a rival tabloid which had the effect of stopping the negative article.

Gambaccini went on: “On another occasion, and this cuts to the chase of the whole matter, he was called and he said 'well you could run that story, but if you do there goes the funds that come in to Stoke Mandeville - do you want to be responsible for the drying up of the charity donations'. And they backed down.â€

Sir Jimmy had raised millions of pounds over the years for his pet cause, Stoke Mandeville Hospital.

Gambaccini added: “It comes out when he's dead because Jimmy Savile had an imperial personality in show business; I'm not talking about personal life. You just didn't mess with Jim. He was the governor, because after all he had been the first great club DJ, he had been the originator of Top of the Pops presentation, and you just let him have his turf. And none of us were interested in going there because he was away from us. At social occasions we would all be together, but Jim would not be and he had his own life.â€

Gambaccini’s revelations come after ITV defended the documentary after a member of Savile’s family condemned the allegations.

An ITV spokesman said: “This documentary is the result of an in-depth investigation into long-standing allegations of serious and widespread sexual misconduct by Sir Jimmy Savile. Because of the very serious nature of the claims made by several interviewees in relation to this, particular care and consideration was of course given to the decision to produce and broadcast this programme.

â€The programme takes full account of the fact that Sir Jimmy is not here to defend himself against these claims“.

The defence comes after Roger Foster, Savile’s nephew, said his family were “disgusted and disappointed†that the allegations are being made when he is no longer around to defend himself, adding that he is concerned at the potential damage to his uncle’s charities, as well as Savile’s reputation and legacy.

â€I just get so disgusted and disappointed by it. The guy hasn't been dead for a year yet and they're bringing these stories out. It could affect his legacy, his charity work, everything. I'm very sad and disgustedâ€, he said.

â€I just don't understand the motives behind this. I just think it's very, very sad you can say these things after someone's died and the law says you can't defend yourself when you're dead.“

ITV said the programme, presented by former detective Mark Williams-Thomas, features contributions from several women who claim that Sir Jimmy was a sexual predator who sexually assaulted them while they were under-age.

One woman alleges that she was raped by the DJ and another says she was asked to perform a sex act on him.

ITV said one of the contributors explained how she was too frightened to speak out while Sir Jimmy was alive. They said the programme will allege that the broadcaster preyed on teenagers whom he invited to appear on his TV shows.

One 14-year-old girl tells the programme how she met Sir Jimmy at a school in Surrey in 1974 and he assaulted her in his caravan which was parked in the school grounds.

ChildLine founder Esther Rantzen, who worked for the BBC during the 1970s, told the programme that she now believes Sir Jimmy sexually abused under-age girls, after seeing the fresh evidence from their interviews.

â€We all blocked our ears to the gossip…We made him into the Jimmy Savile who was untouchable, who nobody could criticise. Jim'll Fix It was for children. He was a sort of God-like figure. Everybody knew of the good that Jimmy did and what he did for children. And these children were powerless“, she said.

The BBC responded to reports that inappropriate behaviour by Sir Jimmy was an “open secret†at the corporation by saying it found no evidence of any misconduct by the broadcaster.

“The BBC has conducted extensive searches of its files to establish whether there is any record of misconduct or allegations of misconduct by Sir Jimmy Savile during his time at the BBC. No such evidence has been found,†it said in a statement.

“Whilst the BBC condemns any behaviour of the type alleged in the strongest terms, in the absence of evidence of any kind found at the BBC that corroborates the allegations that have been made, it is simply not possible for the corporation to take any further action.â€

The BBC also explained why an investigation into Sir Jimmy by BBC2's Newsnight was never broadcast.

Newsnight editor Peter Rippon said: “It is absolutely untrue that the Newsnight investigation was dropped for anything other than editorial reasons.

â€We have been very clear from the start that the piece was not broadcast because the story we were pursuing could not be substantiated. To say otherwise is false and very damaging to the BBC and individuals. The notion that internal pressure was applied appears to be a malicious rumour.“

Mark Williams-Thomas, a former detective who presents the documentary, told ITV's Daybreak that the alleged victims had not come forward before because they “lived in fear for a very long timeâ€.

He said: “We know that children don't disclose abuse straight away; sometimes that takes a long time, for many, many reasons - their whole life changes, the circumstances change...

“And particularly talking out against Sir Jimmy Savile, who of course was a TV legend, (it is) very difficult to talk out about that, and they have been reassured of some confidence by talking now that he has died.â€

But Sir Jimmy's friend, Howard Silverman, defended the TV personality, saying he was a “normal, ordinary guy†and “quite a cleaner-than-clean personâ€.

Mr Silverman said: “I was friends with him for a long time, probably 45 years, and none of this I would have guessed in a million years.â€

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i'm struggling to see what sort of a hold he had over everyone :unsure:

masses of charity work, that once outed would receive little contributions due to his misdemeanours, and prior to his charity work, he was a massive audience draw for the Beeb.

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masses of charity work, that once outed would receive little contributions due to his misdemeanours, and prior to his charity work, he was a massive audience draw for the Beeb.

Yes I can sort of see that , but it's not really been the case for many years now .

And if people are only giving to a charity due to a personality , well it really is for the wrong reasons .

Usually, with the girls it was a half nelson..

:D Wrestling was his other passion

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i'm struggling to see what sort of a hold he had over everyone :unsure:

I'm sure he claimed to have links to the criminal underworld from his time on the Northern club circuit and he sounded like a bit of a ruthless bastard in those days. Maybe he carried that sort of mentality into his later career.

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Am I the only one surprised its girls?

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