RonnieTodger Posted 11 October 2012 Posted 11 October 2012 He should be arrested just for looking like that. To be honest, that's just as bad as shouting it out. It's clear he means it and he's personalised it himself.
ScouseFox Posted 11 October 2012 Posted 11 October 2012 Crazy that you can get jail time for saying something mean.
Rincewind Posted 11 October 2012 Posted 11 October 2012 'displaying writing or representing likely to cause and distress' That is why he got the sentence. Could have written it on a wall or on a poster the outcome would be the same. I am sure others have been done for it in the past. If he had not got a record he may have just got a warning.
Daggers Posted 11 October 2012 Posted 11 October 2012 On the other hand I believe in free speech no matter how awful peoples views are. Funniest thing you've typed on here in an absolute age.
Rincewind Posted 11 October 2012 Posted 11 October 2012 The topic title is mis-leading anyway. He was not jailed for wearing a T- Shirt. It is what he did with it that got him in trouble. A kitchen knife is not harmful to you until the missus stabs you with it.
Zingari Posted 11 October 2012 Posted 11 October 2012 The police should have just turned a blind eye to it and let him carry on wearing it. I’m sure before long one of the better adjusted local boys would have “explained†to him why he shouldn’t be so disrespectful.
Webbo Posted 11 October 2012 Posted 11 October 2012 Funniest thing you've typed on here in an absolute age. Sorry Dags, not biting.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 11 October 2012 Posted 11 October 2012 I imagine that the same people who are saying "freedom of speech should be upheld!" are the same people who are glad to see the back of Abu Hamza. Freedom is not an absolute, it's not an ideal, it's something that you'll never entirely be, because what you believe to be your freedoms will infringe on someone else's.
Daggers Posted 11 October 2012 Posted 11 October 2012 Sorry Dags, not biting. Why bite when you can just delete.
Webbo Posted 11 October 2012 Posted 11 October 2012 Go on then I'll play. What have I deleted that offended you so much?
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 11 October 2012 Posted 11 October 2012 I wonder if someone went around with a picture of Jimmy Saville on the front of a tshirt with the words hero underneath and www. fukavulnerablechild.co.uk on the back they would be so quick to spout off freedom of speech bollocks...
brockmyster Posted 11 October 2012 Posted 11 October 2012 I believe that in the freedom of speech laws or whatever there is a section that says things like this areant allowed, although i could just be talking bollocks god knows
AdamN Posted 12 October 2012 Posted 12 October 2012 I imagine that the same people who are saying "freedom of speech should be upheld!" are the same people who are glad to see the back of Abu Hamza. I wonder if someone went around with a picture of Jimmy Saville on the front of a tshirt with the words hero underneath and www. fukavulnerablechild.co.uk on the back they would be so quick to spout off freedom of speech bollocks... Was going to make the same point(s). You can argue about the right to free speech all you want, but if you're going to exercise your right to be an absolute cretin about it (e.g. advocating the killing of innocent people) then you deserve everything you get. Fuck him.
Steven Posted 12 October 2012 Posted 12 October 2012 This doesn't seem a 4-month stretch worse than calling them plebs. The police are obviously a bit touchy at the moment, but you can't go around dishing out jail terms like that for a bit of bad taste printed on a t-shirt, regardless of how much of a total **** the guy is. We're in danger of going a bit overboard on police protection at the moment. They'd do well to remind of themselves what they are actually employed to do, rather than attempting to impose themselves as our untouchable masters. Between Hillsborough and Mark Duggan and doubtless countless more cases besides, they really should just stfu and get on with their jobs. Hear, hear, hear.
Steven Posted 12 October 2012 Posted 12 October 2012 Police officer claimed his iPhone was stolen so he could get an upgrade - no gaol time you will notice. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2216176/Police-officer-falsely-claimed-iPhone-stolen-caught-used-girlfriend.html
Rincewind Posted 12 October 2012 Posted 12 October 2012 I believe that in the freedom of speech laws or whatever there is a section that says things like this areant allowed, although i could just be talking bollocks god knows There is, which is the reason he was arrested. Displaying writings that could cause distress to another person or something like that. It is in the article. Having it on a T-shirt makes no difference. Could have been walking about with a placard around him the result would have been the same. The timing made little difference too, the papers made the connection If it was not against the law there would be people doing it every day.
MooseBreath Posted 12 October 2012 Posted 12 October 2012 There's no consistency though. Chants at football grounds are often way more offensive, yet we don't see mass arrests and jail terms for football supporters. The only reason he has been punished is because it was specifically abuse against police, which suggests the police think they are a special case and can have their own set of rules. This is wrong.
flowwolf Posted 12 October 2012 Posted 12 October 2012 He's probably had quite a few run-ins with the police over the years & his opinion of the police is somewhat tainted. I don't agree with the sentence & I don't think he would have got such a sentence had it been against anybody else but the police. I don't particularly like British Gas at the moment, but I wouldn't expect a 4 month sentence for wearing a t-shirt saying "British Gas are a bunch of thieving cvnts!!" You can't be jailed for telling the truth. lol :thumbup:
flowwolf Posted 12 October 2012 Posted 12 October 2012 I think it would have been better to let him walk around for a few hours wearing it, then pop down the local A&E and have a laugh watching the nurses using forceps to extract the T shirt form out of his Anus. I't called natural justice.
Houdini Logic Posted 12 October 2012 Posted 12 October 2012 You get lesser terms for having indecent images of children. I think the world has finally gone nuts
leicesterlad1989 Posted 12 October 2012 Posted 12 October 2012 I think most people will agree, the guy is clearly an idiot and its not the fact he has been sent to prison that annoys me, it's the fact the other crimes go unpunished. For example: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3981429/Muslim-girl-gang-who-kicked-woman-in-head-freed-after-court-hears-they-were-not-used-to-drinking.html And that is not the only case. You see it all the time. Even murder charges are a ****in joke. So they send this guy prison when they would possibly have been better off giving him psychiatric help or even a spelling and grammar lesson. No consistancy!
Guest Posted 12 October 2012 Posted 12 October 2012 Just glad I stopped wearing T-shirts so much last year.
purpleronnie Posted 12 October 2012 Posted 12 October 2012 I think most people will agree, the guy is clearly an idiot and its not the fact he has been sent to prison that annoys me, it's the fact the other crimes go unpunished. For example: http://www.thesun.co...o-drinking.html And that is not the only case. You see it all the time. Even murder charges are a ****in joke. So they send this guy prison when they would possibly have been better off giving him psychiatric help or even a spelling and grammar lesson. No consistancy! Not that story again, there were lots of factors behind that sentencing so maybe you should read up on that case and not just take the story directly from the newspaper, odd you would bring that specific story up eh?
Houdini Logic Posted 12 October 2012 Posted 12 October 2012 Not that story again, there were lots of factors behind that sentencing so maybe you should read up on that case and not just take the story directly from the newspaper, odd you would bring that specific story up eh? What factors can make a gang of people kicking someone in the head worse than a single person wearing an idiotic t-shirt?
purpleronnie Posted 12 October 2012 Posted 12 October 2012 What factors can make a gang of people kicking someone in the head worse than a single person wearing an idiotic t-shirt? I'm not saying it was right but just strange that specific story was brought up...no question because it was a muslim 'gang' - and at the time and I'm sure still people dont realise all the facts of that case just like the t shirt one where previous and suspended sentences were a factor, I'm sure some think he wore a t shirt and was sent to prison despite all the other reasons that went along with it.
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