Deucalion Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 try to change the world with a revolutionary act and fail miserably and some of us get lifetime bans etc, standing is clamped down on, whatever the future holds, it ain't gonna be pretty if we go down this road. Which is why boycotting a game is the safest and most reasonable course of action. If someone steps into the stadium with the intention of making a stand then they open themselves up to reprisals by the club or over-zealous stewards. The club cannot take sanctions against anyone at home, shopping with the missus or even on the pavement outside the ground. This is a difficult course of action but also the one which promises to have the most impact. The club will not like the embarrassment or the financial implications of a boycotted game. I am not saying this should or should not happen. I do not know the person concerned and stewards have been nothing more than mildly irritating to me in recent years. But if people feel strongly enough to protest on this then doing so in a way which the club definitely won't like and also allows no detrimental consequences to those taking part has to be a good idea.
Mike the Metal Ed Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 Haha, well this thread certainly proves one thing - a large portion of the posters on here really are the arseholes of this world! Throw something around in a public space and think it's fine?!? Why the hell shouldn't he have been punished? If I head into Highcross today and chuck some stuff around I'll get done. Before anyone has a moan, I'm very much in favour of encouraging more atmosphere etc, but it has to be done in an appropriate way. To anyone who has actually posted on here defending it - please try and engage your single figure IQ before making pathetically idiotic comments. This whole situation pretty well demonstrates a large portion of the problem with much of society today. I can imagine if you'd thrown a light item, such as a paper bag from a food stall or a sandwich bag, you would be told to pick it up, stop, or to get out. One thing that would not happen is a police caution. Go away.
Deucalion Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 Haha, well this thread certainly proves one thing - a large portion of the posters on here really are the arseholes of this world! Throw something around in a public space and think it's fine?!? Why the hell shouldn't he have been punished? If I head into Highcross today and chuck some stuff around I'll get done. Before anyone has a moan, I'm very much in favour of encouraging more atmosphere etc, but it has to be done in an appropriate way. To anyone who has actually posted on here defending it - please try and engage your single figure IQ before making pathetically idiotic comments. This whole situation pretty well demonstrates a large portion of the problem with much of society today. Dim.
Bettsj2 Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 You can't win though. The club won't listen to any reasoned argument. I dont believe that. Havent they just advertised for some sort of supporters commitee? If ever they're gonna listen its now. Having your 'they wont listen' argument really wont get us anywhere. If I can get us an appointment with Barclay himself, would 2 or 3 of you be happy to attend and have a proper sit down?
Lobsterboyuk Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 Which is why boycotting a game is the safest and most reasonable course of action. If someone steps into the stadium with the intention of making a stand then they open themselves up to reprisals by the club or over-zealous stewards. The club cannot take sanctions against anyone at home, shopping with the missus or even on the pavement outside the ground. This is a difficult course of action but also the one which promises to have the most impact. The club will not like the embarrassment or the financial implications of a boycotted game. I am not saying this should or should not happen. I do not know the person concerned and stewards have been nothing more than mildly irritating to me in recent years. But if people feel strongly enough to protest on this then doing so in a way which the club definitely won't like and also allows no detrimental consequences to those taking part has to be a good idea. What are the numbers for a boycott though, realistically, I'd be surprised if you could even notice. Don't forget some sizeable percentage of LCFC supporters will be on the clubs side over this incident, I'd expect a counter protest movement calling for his public hanging outside the castle after being flogged by 5,000 local Daily express readers.
Lobsterboyuk Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 Havent they just advertised for some sort of supporters commitee? Well, they're monitoring this board so my application is proper fvcked!
1994fox Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 Boycott Middlesbrough. It's on tv so most people won't miss it. Also it will be embarrassing for the club as it is on tv. If we can get stringer involved this could gather momentum. Better than banners and stuff that could rub Barclay up the wrong way leading to a clamp down on standing ect.
Hugo Sanchez Posted 6 January 2013 Author Posted 6 January 2013 We need to make this either east midlands or national news. Mercury aswell.
Ford Super Sunday Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 I'm sure Ian Stringer encouraging a boycott would maintain his good relations with the club and please his employers as they cut him adrift in the long term...
1994fox Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 I'm sure Ian Stringer encouraging a boycott would maintain his good relations with the club and please his employers as they cut him adrift in the long term... He doesn't need to encourage it. Just give It some airtime to raise awareness.
Hugo Sanchez Posted 6 January 2013 Author Posted 6 January 2013 What would happen if i took a huge flag with BARCLAY OUT on it ? Had all the fireproof bs and was legal to take in ? Would they chuck me out ?
Deucalion Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 What are the numbers for a boycott though, realistically, I'd be surprised if you could even notice. Don't forget some sizeable percentage of LCFC supporters will be on the clubs side over this incident, I'd expect a counter protest movement calling for his public hanging outside the castle after being flogged by 5,000 local Daily express readers. Even a few hundred supporters outside the ground peacefully demonstrating would be enough to get press attention. Although as someone has pointed out, the club are asking for representatives from fans. Maybe we are doing the owners of the club a disservice? Maybe the problem originates lower down and they are not aware of it. Maybe it is worth talking to them first, although my feeling is they umm and arr before reverting to a set response to any ideas from the fans.
Libertine Dream Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 Not boycotting a game at all, can't see it working at all. Rather see fans vocal about the matter rather than sitting at home watching on the tv
K1FOX Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 We need to be able to speak to top directly in my opinion. There must be a way.
Raj Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 I dont believe that. Havent they just advertised for some sort of supporters commitee? If ever they're gonna listen its now. Having your 'they wont listen' argument really wont get us anywhere. If I can get us an appointment with Barclay himself, would 2 or 3 of you be happy to attend and have a proper sit down? Thought we were 'Ard and refuse to sit down??? We need to be able to speak to top directly in my opinion. There must be a way. Yeah...Like they will give a fcuk...
Bettsj2 Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 Even a few hundred supporters outside the ground peacefully demonstrating would be enough to get press attention. Although as someone has pointed out, the club are asking for representatives from fans. Maybe we are doing the owners of the club a disservice? Maybe the problem originates lower down and they are not aware of it. Maybe it is worth talking to them first, although my feeling is they umm and arr before reverting to a set response to any ideas from the fans. This is becoming to hysterical. A guy threw something harmless, a steward saw him throw something and they kicked him out. I know what he threw was harmless but the steward didnt.
Guest Bilo Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 All a boycott on national TV would achieve is making other fans think we have poor support. A protest would be difficult as all associated paraphernalia would, more likely than not, be confiscated. Stringer wouldn't overtly support an anti-Barclay campaign because he can't. It's going to be tough to dislodge Barclay, the best way is registering your annoyance via FCC representatives as and when they are elected.
Lobsterboyuk Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 Even a few hundred supporters outside the ground peacefully demonstrating would be enough to get press attention. If the club do nothing and that happens, I'll be there (again!) "George Out! Where's the money gone! etc etc"
Raj Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 All a boycott on national TV would achieve is making other fans think we have poor support. A protest would be difficult as all associated paraphernalia would, more likely than not, be confiscated. Stringer wouldn't overtly support an anti-Barclay campaign because he can't. It's going to be tough to dislodge Barclay, the best way is registering your annoyance via FCC representatives as and when they are elected. Yeah and they can make their point at the next FCC meeting,whilst sitting next to Andrew Neville and other People from the club......
Leicesterlad96 Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 We need to be able to speak to top directly in my opinion. There must be a way. i highly doubt that we wouldn't get near him.
Guest Bilo Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 Yeah and they can make their point at the next FCC meeting,whilst sitting next to Andrew Neville and other People from the club...... Isn't taking it to a higher authority exactly what people are advocating?
RowlattsFox Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 Would say chants are better than flags, any flags would be taken before they can even be seen. Saying that though don't think chants would have much impact anyway, all it would do is make barclay even more motivated to piss everyone off and enforce rules even more.
Raj Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 Isn't taking it to a higher authority exactly what people are advocating? what to get rid of Barclay? For what exactly? Doing his job???
Hugo Sanchez Posted 6 January 2013 Author Posted 6 January 2013 Think we need to get the right people on board for this to work. We need a good spokeperson and be a peaceful protest. Anyone care to assist on this ?
Leicesterlad96 Posted 6 January 2013 Posted 6 January 2013 How do we no its this Barclay that got weasel kicked out? Did anybody actually see him? Because I don't want to make my bar lay our sign if he's innocent
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