Corky Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Whatever you say about Pearson, he hasn't wasted anywhere near the amount of money that Sven did. My word in 2011 we spent ridiculously.
Babylon Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Whatever you say about Pearson, he hasn't wasted anywhere near the amount of money that Sven did. My word in 2011 we spent ridiculously. Sickens me to think what we might have got with Pearson spending that cash instead.
Jace Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Sickens me to think what we might have got with Pearson spending that cash instead. Hopefully we will see next season
Corky Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Sickens me to think what we might have got with Pearson spending that cash instead. Man United reserves.
Fayette Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 All Johnson ever has to do is look at his ex-teammate Milner if he wants to know how his career could have turned out. Similar story, both forged reputations at a young age yet Milner has 30 odd England caps and Johnson is now 24 without a club. Just shows how important lifestyle is for footballers.
LeicesterAreGoingUp Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Even The Man off Man v Food looks like he eats less than him! Tbf, it was his choice to not put the work in, not much sympathy for him.
Simmsy Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 No sympathy what so ever. Blew a great opportunity and has earned ridiculous amounts of money whilst doing nothing but drinking lard by the looks of him.
Kitchandro Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 People have no idea what his mental state is like. He could be mentally ill or he could just be thick. I'm sure Man City meant the latter when they said they didn't think he had the mentality to be a top level footballer.
THEBIGJOHNSTEADER; Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 He's what my grandmother would call "a real piece of shit"
Guest Col city fan Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Sickens me to think what we might have got with Pearson spending that cash instead. Absolutely right. God knows how Sven had so many fans for so long. I never got it at the time and I don't get it now. We're still feeling the backlash now, in terms of Beckfords and Danns' wages and contracts. Ball, fat Johnno and didn't he sign Pantsil too?
Munshi Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Absolutely right. God knows how Sven had so many fans for so long. I never got it at the time and I don't get it now. We're still feeling the backlash now, in terms of Beckfords and Danns' wages and contracts. Ball, fat Johnno and didn't he sign Pantsil too? Pantsil was absolute pants.
Bettsj2 Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 I dont know the guy personally so have no idea why he's fvcked his career. It must be something pretty bad to get in such a state when the footballing world was once at your feet. Its all very well saying, 'well i'm depressed and I didnt turn out like that' but as you should know if you have or have had depression, it doesnt hit everyone in the same way and not everyone deals with it in the same way so its not really relevent to MJ. Having said that, its a fvcking horrible illness to have and I have sympathy for anyone who suffers with it regardless of the size of their bank balance.
Langley Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Sousa signed LAMEy! That tops the lot. On 9 August 2010, Lamey joined Leicester City after impressing the club in a two-week trial.[1] On 11 August, he was part of the reserves squad that won the Totesport.com Cup in a 2–1 win over Oldham Athletic reserves at Quorn FC Says it all really. Also on Johnson, no sympathy. And if I was a fat tucker and being paid 40,000 a week I'd make the most of it, the chubby little bastard.
Out Foxed Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Absolutely right. God knows how Sven had so many fans for so long. I never got it at the time and I don't get it now. We're still feeling the backlash now, in terms of Beckfords and Danns' wages and contracts. Ball, fat Johnno and didn't he sign Pantsil too? mongos
Babylon Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Absolutely right. God knows how Sven had so many fans for so long. I never got it at the time and I don't get it now. We're still feeling the backlash now, in terms of Beckfords and Danns' wages and contracts. Ball, fat Johnno and didn't he sign Pantsil too? Because he was doing an ok job (yes having prem class players on loan helped), but he committed managerial suicide with his later signings. Bringing in Bruma etc wrecked our momentum year one, and his signings last summer resigned us to last years shite.
Brenfox Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Someone will still probably take him. If it isn't illness & the guy has anything about him he can come back from this, he clearly has the talent just not the application.
Corky Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Someone will still probably take him. If it isn't illness & the guy has anything about him he can come back from this, he clearly has the talent just not the application. Judging by his fitness, the Bermudan cricket team.
Haydos Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Have any of you had your dreams shattered...repeatedly? Yes, some handle it much better than others but to work so hard for something then to suffer injury after injury (firstly undergoing a double hernia operation then shortly after making his return suffers a reoccurrence. A knee injury a bit further down the line sidelines him for another 6 months). This is all before he is 21. On the verge of a breakthrough several times and repeatedly he suffers setbacks. This is one of the main reasons why this has happened. Of course he is to blame but some of you are acting like ignorant cvnts and are way too harsh imo. There's been plenty of players that have pushed on and worked their way through injury but there's also a lot who haven't. Just seemed too much for this lad. I don't have a huge amount of sympathy for him but I understand how much of an effect his injury problems have had on him.
EnderbyFox Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Heres a little something I read on another forum by some bloke who claims to be mates with him, decent read IMO, if a little lengthy. "I knew this lad growing up. He grew up in Urmston and we shared mutual friends. His Dad is an excellent youth coach who took a local team all the way to playing guys like Ajax in youth tourneys. And Michael was his jewel in the crown. There's a lot of silly people talking a lot of silliness in this thread in what went on with him and what happened. Usually spouting worn out cliches about overpaying and over partying. To be honest, they're pretty way off base. Growing up I'd never seen anyone who worked harder than Johnson on his game. There was no regular N64 party with his mates, by the time he was about ready to leave primary school he was already off to Netherlands to play in a youth system over there. His entire life from being a toddler was built around football, the idea that he somehow lost desire is ridiculous and insulting. He sacrificed most of his childhood to become a footballer. On this overpaid thing, people don't seem to understand how contracts are structured, especially for a youth player at a Club like City then, you don't just get your full whack every week. By the time MJ was 20 before any of the later drinking, he was having to borrow money to pay bills. Like every other footballer he thought he was invincible and bought a bunch of nice stuff when he broke in. The. He got injured, his wages dropped and he could barely make ends meet. It's hard to describe the type of toll that working your entire life towards a goal and being let down by your body in the cusp of achieving it takes on you. This guy wasn't injured once, he was injured four or five times on the bounce. Initially it was a growth based injury, he was seen as the next big thing then was told that he had to go home and sit on his couch for a year because despite having immense talent, his body had failed him and there was no cure but to wait. And watch his peers surpass him in development. He finally got back into training from this, and wanting to make up for lost time he pushed too hard too soon and buggered his knee. Another few months for him to wait and watch. At this point his behaviour was fine. What the City physios were doing allowing him to work so hard escapes me. I imagine he wasn't best pleased either. Same thing later happened again. Got his shit together, came back, immediately injured. At this point he sunk into a depression, understandable as he felt his hopes and dreams that he had worked so hard for to be slipping away due to little fault on his part. It didn't help at this point that he had problems in an infuriatingly stupid and hostile dressing room. Ireland, Johnson, Samaras, etc all have frankly embarrassing stories about this period. It also didn't help that the Club at this point were in mass disarray and couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, thus provided him with no support at all. When it happened again injury wise, he completely fell apart. He decided that sitting in a couch rehabbing is doing nothing and started going into clubs and casinos more often. Here the cliches apply more. He snapped out of this behaviour too late. Perhaps this coinciding with the extra support players were given is a coincidence but it probably isn't. Whilst Johnson contributed to the ****ing of his career, I place a major proportion of the blame on the Club and the frankly scandalous lack of support young players were given. Almost every graduate of our Academy during that period has had major mental problems, from Ireland's bizarre behaviour to Richards lack of assertion that Vieira sorted out, to Johnson and Ched Evans and Jordan etc. For everybody's screaming about bringing through kids, City early in the 00s are a perfect example of why fans need to calm down with this. We thought that we could save our money by bringing through players and it would just all work out in the end, without thinking of the long term. Long term we have wrecked the careers of several promising players because we concentrated on their footy skills and not their emotional development. We saved ourselves millions of pound in the short term to the cost of tens of millions in the long term. We have learnt from these mistakes if the past but when I see Clubs like Villa and Sunderland getting plaudits for throwing bunches of kids into the mix, it makes me concerned about whether we in England are throwing another generation away due to this obsession with playing homegrown kids"
LcFc_Smiv Posted 15 January 2013 Posted 15 January 2013 Obviously the post above is off the internet and not sure how true it is, but if it is true, it is what I'm on about. Talent development has a long way to go, not just in football but many sports, yes he has a major part to play in it, but by the sounds of it he hasn't had the support. So many of you on here sit and think you could do it differently, and fair enough everyone has been through their own problems and has their own issues, but no one deals with it in the same way. It's clear that what has happened has something to do with his injury record, the lifestyle he was given and the amount of support he had around/on offer to him. Lets be honest no one would throw away what he had on purpose, your an idiot to think that he would, clearly things aren't right.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 16 January 2013 Posted 16 January 2013 The guy states he knew him not that he knows him. Not really bother about MJ it's his life if he has no desire to play again so be it.
Tom17LCFC Posted 16 January 2013 Posted 16 January 2013 I do have a fair bit of sympathy for the lad. Ultimately, it's down to him and he has to take the blame, but being touted as the next big thing, and having your dreams broken not once, not twice, not three times, but more must be absolutely devastating. On top of this, if I was given a fair whack of money as a teenager, I wouldn't have a clue what to do with it, I'd end up pissing it away and ending up in a shit situation, especially if I had no support, which it sounds like Johnson didn't. The media don't help either. We need to stop the obsession with our youngsters, too much pressure at such a young age, some players just can't cope with it, and in extreme cases end up like Johnson. Unfortunately I can't see him forging a career in football anymore, I just hope he gets/is getting the help he needs, to stop him sinking further and further.
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