In 2012 we had 62 pts after 42 games

[Corky]

Why all this 'no chance...... will come here'?

Firstly, how do YOU know?

Secondly, given the right salary and the promise of a decent transfer kitty (like Nige has/had) the Leicester job would present a good challenge for any manager who would relish such a challenge.

I do have to laff at how some people appear to KNOW that something will/won't happen.

Eg. Three seasons ago, who would have expected Sven in as manager, only to be replaced by Pearson?

That's just what I thought.

One-nil Babs methinks..

Well I don't know for sure, I don't have sources or club insiders, just my feeling. He's an up-and-coming manager who will probably go to the Premier League before us (as he's been linked with jobs there).

But if I'm wrong then I'm happy to hold my hands up.

[Happy Fox]

I have got a lot of admiration for Powell but he wouldn't be the answer for us what we need is a manager that has achieved promotion from this division and has managed in the prem with a degree of success at that level 3 standout candidates (MON, Roberto Di Matteo and Curbishely)

If we cannot get any of them in than the next best option is manager that have achieved promotion from this division ( Coyle and Mick McCarthy)

Then the managers that have managed in the prem only to a success but not at championship level ( Hughes)

Then the young potential unproven managers who haven't managed in the English game who would/should relish the chance of managing our club- Markus Babbel, Lennon and Solskaer

[seenitall]

I'm sorry but there is so much shit in this post I don't know where to start.

OK Babs here we go.........

You act like no good results have never actually happened with this team, with these players. You call others for having blinkers and then only ever focus on the negative.

We have currently won less games this season than in Sven's first, this is after he started with Sousas relegation team - we have had some good results but not enough so right now, what positives are there to focus on? None!

If they were crap how did we play well for the first half of the season? All year those against Pearson have been saying we are there because of the players not Pearson. Then as we started to slip it was his fault for making good players play badly. Now it's all the players he has signed are shit. Which one is it exactly?

All three - the players he inherited he managed to demoralise/fall out with, this season he managed realistically (and I have to go on what I read) 10 great performances, a number of close shaves for wins and then a whole crock of shite since February. The majority of his signings fit into the shite signings category - Marshall, Drinkwater, Vardy, Futacs, De Laet, Whitbread are all bog standard - Knocky, James and Wood show potential but seem to have had it knocked out of them and Morgan is the only guy who you definitely keep for next year. Keane looks good but that is nothing to do with Nige IMO - he takes what he can from Prem teams and they are good or not (Kane)

We're still in a better position that we were when Sven left, so you are going to have to explain the highlighted part. The players who got us in the top two were mostly Pearsons signings, and anyone that has been replaced in the team recently have been Pearson signings. It makes no sense at all.

We are in exactly the same position as when Sven left, two points off the play offs, but not any longer 4 off the second spot, so worse then. Difference being, Sven seemed to be able to follow a bad run of say three or four games with a decent spell - he never won one in 13 and you won't be able to argue that point

Dismantling what exactly? Dismantling a team put together even more expensively than this one that sat lower in the league. I know you don't like the bloke but this rant is barmy.

The league position you cherish so much when we fell to 13th is your only real justification for why Sven had to go - and you and I both know it is bollocks when the top half of the table is still separated by about 6 points - give it up, it meant no more than being top or second in November did

A job every bit as hard as Svens? If someone took over now we'd still be in a better league position than Sven left us in. League position as justification after 13 games again - boring First time round his team (with borrowed players) bottled it almost as much as this team have. To get us within a point if the play offs and to fall away as we did, with signings disrupting the team seemingly never happened in your shall we say, blinkered world.

Well to come from the bottom to a point away from the play offs would be seen by many as an achievement - not you, but by most rational fans. The tail off was disappointing and suggested we needed a better squad - we'll never know if the one he assembled could have come good because once NP got hold of them they were all doomed , possibly for knowing more about football than he does.

Here we go again, the old worst I've ever seen nonsense. You really should have told us at the end of Jan, you know when we were second.

The current team is playing as poorly as any ever seen down City - get over it, maybe they'll come good, but you don't really believe that either

We've been shit recently, nobody should be hiding from that and Pearson will have to carry the can on that come the end of the season. We should be doing better. No mention of why though, as ever, Nige can do no wrong - but I said 18 months ago this would happen and you told me I had to give him a transfer window, get his own players in and then see how good we will be - we aren't, you were wrong and you still are....

But your over the top sniping, your brilliant amnesia of almost anything good that happened up up to the end of January it is as irrlevant as what happened under Sven - because that didn't work doesn't make NP's failure any more palatable and anything shit that actually happened under Sven is beyond laughable.

But what did happen - should have given Sven a season unless we fell towards relegation and should never have appointed Nigel Pearson - will keep saying it until he is gone and the board (and hopefully they will appoint someone to that who knows English football) get a grip

[Dan]

You are the most depressing person on here Dan - your blinkers must be so thick I don't know how you can see to type.

In other posts you seem genuinely excited that we have this young and hungry team, but when I watched the last two games I saw lots of mid twenties and a couple of 30 somethings struggling to place passes, no midfield to speak of, one very young defender who looked good but isn't ours and a young striker who looked about 2 stone overweight.

Of course the wage bill is lower - the players we have brought in are largely crap. Since February we have been in the bottom 3 of the form table. As more and more of the team has been replaced with Nige's signings we have moved further away from the top 2 and are now the same distance from there as the relegation places ( we used to call that mid table)

On Fridays showing we don't have a single player that could cut it at the bottom of the Premier League should Nige pullmoff a miracle and therefore no building has been done, just dismantling and we look like the QPR of our division - except not as hungry.

Yet you bang on and on about how we should stick with it. Sorry, you are wrong. This experiment by the board has failed completely and the new manager when he finally gets here is going to have a job every big as the one Sven had in trying to replace players who have limited ability, look unfit and have no confidence. What you see when you watch us is not what I see, and this lot are amongst the worst or at least most average I have seen in 40 years- probably Pleat era is the nearest I can remember - a dull, talentless mid Division 2 side.

I would expect more from a financially strapped board, but from this one we should be flying. Now what do you see (if you look that is) that is different to that?

Probably the best argument I've seen from you. I just fail to understand how if it's that bad, how did it get us as high as it did in the first place? I've begun to question a lot about this squad and manager, no question about it, I've just made it abundantly clear that I see no point in getting rid of the manager at this point of the season.

The same job Sven had though? Really? Has league positions suddenly become irrelevant or something?

[Dan]

And on and on he follows the Pearson.........top 2 and fall away to 8th is good enough for Babs because if it isn't he will be seen to have been WRONG

That isn't the point though, is it? Now, tell me honestly, who did you prefer, Pearson or Sven? (I'm 99% sure I know the answer to that one) and explain why. You make Pearson out to be the worst manager we've ever had, he's not close.

[Aus Fox]

Mate, you might not get this but right now Peter Taylor had more success than this clown - would be great to get Jose or Sir Alex but if you look at the form tabel Mccarthy is outperforming Nige as is Powell (one place behind, several less million spent on team) both seem to understand team spirit better than Nige and both have hungrier teams on less wages.

The only thing NP has in his favour is a low wage bill, young and hungry players and the admiration of the FFP - I'd say Ipswich and carlton outperform him on all counts and theybare better football teams too

On what planet has Peter Taylor had more success here than Nige?

And when was the last time a team was promoted due to the form table? its he Actual table that counts and we are ahead of Powell and McCarthys teams? so very wrong.

I know many dont rate Nigel, I dont mind him but if the owners do decide to get rid I wouldn't be passionately complaining about the decision, as long as we step up. The managers suggested on here are all a step backwards and other managers that would end up on our growing scrap heap after another year.

For that reason I would stick with Nige.

[Dan]

On what planet has Peter Taylor had more success here than Nige?

And when was the last time a team was promoted due to the form table? its he Actual table that counts and we are ahead of Powell and McCarthys teams? so very wrong.

I know many dont rate Nigel, I dont mind him but if the owners do decide to get rid I wouldn't be passionately complaining about the decision, as long as we step up. The managers suggested on here are all a step backwards and other managers that would end up on our growing scrap heap after another year.

For that reason I would stick with Nige.

This is what sums seenitall up for me. Makes some valid points and I'm beginning to think there's something reasonable coming about before he goes and makes a comment like that. Sensational. Simply sensational.

[seenitall]

This is what sums seenitall up for me. Makes some valid points and I'm beginning to think there's something reasonable coming about before he goes and makes a comment like that. Sensational. Simply sensational.

Had us top of the Premier League........or does that not count now, I can't keep up

[smudger63]

Brilliant, I will take the refusal to answer and to come back with nothing more than this pathetic come back as a sign that I was correct.

Of course you are correct Mr Babylon, because you always are!

You are the all knowing knowitall, better known on this board as Babylon, he who has spoken and must be right.

[_Fatboyslow_]

Had us top of the Premier League........or does that not count now, I can't keep up

He spent more time with the England set up at the start of the season. He himself said that the team did better when he was not there (may have been tounge in cheek) by Xmas we had his players in and I recall us get stuffed by the Gunners and the whole team looking a shambles. The one reason we stayed up was due to the start we made which was with another managers team, not his.

[Guy]

I suppose in the grander scheme of things then comparing like for like and arguing the toss between all of you isn't necessarily going to do us any favours for now and into the future!

As always, then time will tell on what's going to happen with Pearson, these next four games will determine this more than anything else over the past 18 months of his second spell back here.....which has not been great whichever way you choose to look at it, even after some top performances this season - all too few and far between though. Whether you're comparing Pearson mark two to Sven's mixed time of it here, with Peter Taylor's imploding year or to Pearson's more productive and memorable first spell with us, then it'll all come out in the wash after the Forest away game, I'm sure!

[5waller5]

Anyone coming in here will most probably need to cut the wage bill further to keep inline with FFP. And with many players still sat around on ludicrous Sven contracts that isn't going to be easy.

Or get promoted.

Seems you're backing NP so much you've forgotten that promotion is even an option!

[Babylon]

Or get promoted.

Seems you're backing NP so much you've forgotten that promotion is even an option!

So what you are suggesting is we forget FFP and let a new manager spend what they like. Sounds like a wonderful idea!

[Babylon]

Of course you are correct Mr Babylon, because you always are!

You are the all knowing knowitall, better known on this board as Babylon, he who has spoken and must be right.

If someone is unable to offer any kind of response other than that what are you supposed to draw from it.

Oh and grow up.

[5waller5]

So what you are suggesting is we forget FFP and let a new manager spend what they like. Sounds like a wonderful idea!

No, I'm suggesting you've lost sight of anything important and can only see the thin shreds of solace left in tatters for your hero.

[5waller5]

That isn't the point though, is it? Now, tell me honestly, who did you prefer, Pearson or Sven? (I'm 99% sure I know the answer to that one) and explain why. You make Pearson out to be the worst manager we've ever had, he's not close.

He's very close. In fact he's second.

[Babylon]

No, I'm suggesting you've lost sight of anything important and can only see the thin shreds of solace left in tatters for your hero.

Are you just typing random words as a response? Because you are making no sense at all.

How on earth do you glean that I've lost sight of what is important by stating a new manager will have to cut back if we wanted to meet FFP next year. That's a fact.

As for your hero bullshit, why so certain people on here feel the need to just randomly make shit up?

[Strokes]

Solskjear if wolves and Blackburn have taught us anything it's that managers who have success at tiny teams in scandanevia cannot manage in the championship.

Behave, thats not how football works.

I agree it hasnt proved that much, same with lennon but it hasnt proved they will/would fail.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

We're treading water aren't we?

Not sure we are making too much progress at all

Next. . . . .

[seenitall]

Brilliant, I will take the refusal to answer and to come back with nothing more than this pathetic come back as a sign that I was correct.

I'll take your refusal to read my answer as 1-0 to me then.........

[Corky]

I'll take your refusal to read my answer as 1-0 to me then.........

I hope you don't sit back on this lead.

Or make a shit substitute post.

[Babylon]

I'll take your refusal to read my answer as 1-0 to me then.........

I've read your answer and typed out a long reply, which doesn't seem to have posted. I won't be wasting my time to reply again.

Your hypocrisy about calling Sven getting with touching distance of the play offs and bottling it an achievement, when you slate Pearson for getting top two and bottling sums it up.

They both ****ed up.

[seenitall]

I've read your answer and typed out a long reply, which doesn't seem to have posted. I won't be wasting my time to reply again.

Your hypocrisy about calling Sven getting with touching distance of the play offs and bottling it an achievement, when you slate Pearson for getting top two and bottling sums it up.

They both ****ed up.

Well you seem to be getting over the Nige as God syndrome, now if you can move on from that 13th place that haunts you so, you'll be almost back as a rational City fan

[Babylon]

Well you seem to be getting over the Nige as God syndrome, now if you can move on from that 13th place that haunts you so, you'll be almost back as a rational City fan

I believe you are the one person on this board who keeps dragging Sven up. What sort of replies do you expect?

[Swiss_tony]

fellas fellas, let's get away from the personal insults.

there's lots of opinions here, but the facts are we are currently worse off points wise, than this time last season. np has had a full season to rebuild, sven had expensive players here for sure, that was a handicap np inherited. but we haven't got rid of all of them. What we've seen by the form table, is a slump of historic proportions, and if you argue that he's been cutting the wage bill, certainly since the january xfer window you can see what that has done for us. yes we have cheaper players, and with less ability. it makes depressing reading for next year when ffp kicks in. i can't see us getting much in terms of quality in over the summer whoever is in charge. we have a large amount of debt, and if we fail to get promoted this year i wonder if we'll also lose ST revenue, with people getting frustrated and giving up.