What will it take for Pearson to get sacked (owners expectations)

[MC Prussian]

 And I though opposites attract

Just like model trains with magnets, eh?

[cc_star]

Who would people want say if Pearson left the club right now? Your not allowed to say Martin O'Neill!

 

Why would anyone in their right minds say him?

 

Someone who threatens to throw his toys out the pram & quit whenever a Chairman dares to try & control his spending on the recruitment & retention of players.

Didn't anyone they see the unsustainable reckless management that endangered Villa's future that Lambert is clearing up. Didn't they see the absolute dross he churned out at Sunderland despite quite ridiculous levels of spending.

 

O'Neill.. thanks for the memories, some of the best ever... but that's it, memories!

[Albert]

Not a happy camp at the minute! Robinson, Richardson, Pearson not a happy family....

[indierich06]

Not a happy camp at the minute! Robinson, Richardson, Pearson not a happy family....

Who the ****'s Richardson when he's at home?

[5waller5]

Not a happy camp at the minute! Robinson, Richardson, Pearson not a happy family....

 

what makes you say that?? has something happened?

[Happy Fox]

Not a happy camp at the minute! Robinson, Richardson, Pearson not a happy family...

 

 

Is Richards appointment off the record so to speak because he hasn't been officially appointed in any capacity?

[Albert]

Is Richards appointment off the record so to speak because he hasn't been officially appointed in any capacity?

He's 'advisor' to owners. There relationship goes back a few years

[Monsell1976]

Oh, look. Another one.

The owners didn't give Pearson simply a contract just because they thought he'd get us promoted by now. Pearson got the contract because the owners, getting to terms with reality after the Eriksson debacle, believe that he is the right man for the job, as he has proven in the past.

I'm guessing you have inside knowledge of the board room, because you stating the reason the owners employed him, not guessing why?.

If my memory serves me right Top came out after Pearson was signed and stated promotion was his only target, and is what they expected.

The other bit makes me chuckle when people say Pearson has a proven record, he's achieved a league one title with what was a championship side in effect, what proven record after that, how many promotions has he achieved in his career.

For me he hasn't achieved enough for me to say he's a proven manager, or successful, two playoffs are not success.

[Babylon]

I'm guessing you have inside knowledge of the board room, because you stating the reason the owners employed him, not guessing why?.

If my memory serves me right Top came out after Pearson was signed and stated promotion was his only target, and is what they expected.

The other bit makes me chuckle when people say Pearson has a proven record, he's achieved a league one title with what was a championship side in effect, what proven record after that, how many promotions has he achieved in his career.

For me he hasn't achieved enough for me to say he's a proven manager, or successful, two playoffs are not success.

A championship team that got relegated, and loads of kids and frees. Lets not play down something many people and clubs have struggled with.

[5waller5]

A championship team that got relegated, and loads of kids and frees. Lets not play down something many people and clubs have struggled with.

 

 

And equally let's retain some balance .... The relegated premier teams are always hailed as the biggest threat for a reason - bigger resources and better initial team .... we had both when we were relegated to Div1

[MC Prussian]

And equally let's retain some balance .... The relegated premier teams are always hailed as the biggest threat for a reason - bigger resources and better initial team .... we had both when we were relegated to Div1

One could easily throw in the counter-argument that teams tend to play with more vigor against relegated clubs that were previously a league higher up. Our season in League One wasn't such a piece of cake. As far as I can remember, it was a tight race up until the last five to ten games.

[5waller5]

One could easily throw in the counter-argument that teams tend to play with more vigor against relegated clubs that were previously a league higher up. Our season in League One wasn't such a piece of cake. As far as I can remember, it was a tight race up until the last five to ten games.

 

 

It was great fun!!!

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Oh, look. Another one.

 

The owners didn't give Pearson simply a contract just because they thought he'd get us promoted by now. Pearson got the contract because the owners, getting to terms with reality after the Eriksson debacle, believe that he is the right man for the job, as he has proven in the past.

Just what has he proved? Are you saying the owners didn't expect him to get us promoted, so they were just happy to pay him a £1,000,000 per year.

 

Of course he was brought in for that reason, and he has to put his hand up as having failed in the same manner in which the high earners on the field have. Like the high earners, he has still to prove himself.

[Monsell1976]

One could easily throw in the counter-argument that teams tend to play with more vigor against relegated clubs that were previously a league higher up. Our season in League One wasn't such a piece of cake. As far as I can remember, it was a tight race up until the last five to ten games.

Detracting from my point really, the league 1 title was a success, wether we all agree or not that he had a big advantage, but getting back to he's a proven manager, he's been a caretaker manager and coach at a couple of clubs, relative success first time round here ( league 1 title), went to hull, didn't achieve anything, came back here not achieved anything, so for me he's proved nothing.

In all the years of manager the only success is a league 1 title.

I personally think they panic, probably spoke with people around the club, or even Milan, and hoped because he knew the club he could achieve something, which he clearly hasn't.

Again I don't think he is a bad coach/ manager, just a very average one, and is clearly in my mind hes not meeting the fans( well some), or the owners expectations considering the investment.

I think he got something right last season, but he's not used to winning things and they all bottled it, reverting back to the long ball game, rather than the good effective football, nobody can deny the last 17 games had negative play/ tactics, oh barring the forest game.

But these are my opinions, I don't expect everybody to agree as this forum would be very boring if they did, and I am not blinded by my opinions.

[Babylon]

And equally let's retain some balance .... The relegated premier teams are always hailed as the biggest threat for a reason - bigger resources and better initial team .... we had both when we were relegated to Div1

 

Yes and any manager getting a team up first time from this league whilst making a profit from transfers would be praised and not put down. Except here seemingly.

[5waller5]

Yes and any manager getting a team up first time from this league whilst making a profit from transfers would be praised and not put down. Except here seemingly.

 

 

Oh Mrs Pearson .... He's being put down for being useless since, not his one managerial achievement.

[MC Prussian]

Just what has he proved? Are you saying the owners didn't expect him to get us promoted, so they were just happy to pay him a £1,000,000 per year.

 

Of course he was brought in for that reason, and he has to put his hand up as having failed in the same manner in which the high earners on the field have. Like the high earners, he has still to prove himself.

Sure, the goal is still promotion. The owners tried the quick fix attempt. And it failed. I'm pretty sure they're smart enough to work with different scenarios, and now we're facing a long-term plan that includes being more profitable to comply with FFP for instance.

 

Whether promotion is achieved over a longer period of time remains to be seen. I believe they're in for the longer haul.

Pearson may have failed achieving promotion at once, but looking back, the majority of fans can consider the task a challenging one and rather unusual in the history of the Championship.

 

It's true that Pearson still has to prove himself to some extent (and in the eyes of the more demanding fans) and I expect this season to be quite revealing in many ways.

[yorkie1999]

Patience is a virtue..

[Babylon]

Oh Mrs Pearson .... He's being put down for being useless since, not his one managerial achievement.

No, he gets put down when people constantly try and play down getting out of that division at the first attempt.

 

The usual things like oh it wasn't his team, it was a championship team etc etc. When in fact, if you pick a random game most of the team was signed by him or a youth player.

 

Lets see, tranmere at home won 3-1.

 

Martin (Signed)

Gilbert (Signed)

Morrison (Signed)

Hobbs (Signed)

Gradel (Kid)

Dyer (Signed)

Oakley (Relegated)

Porter (Kid)

King (Kid)

Fryatt (Relegated)

Howard (Relegated)

 

But there you go again, mr "Oh I never insult anyone without them doing so first".

[MC Prussian]

Patience is a virtue..

Tell that to some of the usual suspects on here...

[5waller5]

No, he gets put down when people constantly try and play down getting out of that division at the first attempt.

 

The usual things like oh it wasn't his team, it was a championship team etc etc. When in fact, if you pick a random game most of the team was signed by him or a youth player.

 

Lets see, tranmere at home won 3-1.

 

Martin (Signed)

Gilbert (Signed)

Morrison (Signed)

Hobbs (Signed)

Gradel (Kid)

Dyer (Signed)

Oakley (Relegated)

Porter (Kid)

King (Kid)

Fryatt (Relegated)

Howard (Relegated)

 

But there you go again, mr "Oh I never insult anyone without them doing so first".

 

 

Are you ok now??

[5waller5]

No, he gets put down when people constantly try and play down getting out of that division at the first attempt.

 

The usual things like oh it wasn't his team, it was a championship team etc etc. When in fact, if you pick a random game most of the team was signed by him or a youth player.

 

Lets see, tranmere at home won 3-1.

 

Martin (Signed)

Gilbert (Signed)

Morrison (Signed)

Hobbs (Signed)

Gradel (Kid)

Dyer (Signed)

Oakley (Relegated)

Porter (Kid)

King (Kid)

Fryatt (Relegated)

Howard (Relegated)

 

But there you go again, mr "Oh I never insult anyone without them doing so first".

 

 

 

I actually didn't even have a go at your hubby anyway .......

 

And equally let's retain some balance .... The relegated premier teams are always hailed as the biggest threat for a reason - bigger resources and better initial team .... we had both when we were relegated to Div1

 

 

Was what i said .......

 

And if you stick some of the million Pound transfer fees onto your side that you picked at "random" then you'd see that he had massive resources at his disposal for that campaign against anyone else in the division.

 

Oh, but money doesn't matter unless it's when NP is saving it.

[MC Prussian]

I actually didn't even have a go at your hubby anyway .......

 

And equally let's retain some balance .... The relegated premier teams are always hailed as the biggest threat for a reason - bigger resources and better initial team .... we had both when we were relegated to Div1

 

 

Was what i said .......

 

And if you stick some of the million Pound transfer fees onto your side that you picked at "random" then you'd see that he had massive resources at his disposal for that campaign against anyone else in the division.

 

Oh, but money doesn't matter unless it's when NP is saving it.

He had massive resources at his disposal and didn't use it, went for cheaper options and proper loanees.

 

Are you telling me that's a bad thing, given the fact that he achieved automatic promotion with such a "cheap" team?

[5waller5]

He had massive resources at his disposal and didn't use it, went for cheaper options and proper loanees.

 

Are you telling me that's a bad thing, given the fact that he achieved automatic promotion with such a "cheap" team?

 

He still used massive resources compared to the rest of the division .... we were the rich boys with the resources and existing team in that division.

 

He still had to get them promoted and that was an achievement ......

 

But 4 or is it 5 seasons later maybe we should start to appraise his performance as a championship manager not a div 1 manager. 

 

We say the prem teams have a big advantage, of course they do, it's the same advantage that we had that season ..... It's a big advantage and shouldn't mean we have to slaughter our young at the altar of St Nigey years later.

[Babylon]

I actually didn't even have a go at your hubby anyway .......

 

And equally let's retain some balance .... The relegated premier teams are always hailed as the biggest threat for a reason - bigger resources and better initial team .... we had both when we were relegated to Div1

 

 

Was what i said .......

 

And if you stick some of the million Pound transfer fees onto your side that you picked at "random" then you'd see that he had massive resources at his disposal for that campaign against anyone else in the division.

 

Oh, but money doesn't matter unless it's when NP is saving it.

I'm well aware of what you said, I was setting you and others straight. But once again, two posts in a row the man who claims to not abuse people has to resort into putting people down by claiming they are "Mrs Pearson", was it not you the other day saying you don't do such things unless someone has a go at you first (yeah right)

 

Million pound transfer fees, errr you sure. He didn't spend a million pounds until he got into this division. The only players he had that cost a million were Steve Howard (who he didn't sign). The most he spent was on Tunch and that wasn't a million...

 

Who have a missed? All the players in the first list were free or on loan or he didn't sign them.  You had Powell (Free), Mattock (Kid), Adams (Free), Berner (free), Wesolowski (kid), Dickov (free). Care to add all these million pound players he signed??????