What will it take for Pearson to get sacked (owners expectations)

[MooseBreath]

Again, I'll ask the question of FFP and why some other clubs don't seem to be overly bothered?

Bolton have got Beckford (I doubt he's gone there for peanuts), QPR have retained a number of players and are linked with Gary Hooper (he won't come cheap). Blackburn have retained Rhodes and have signed DJ.

Are these other clubs in a better financial position to us? I thought Bolton, for instance, were skint?

We seem to be wanting to massively comply with FFP whereas some other clubs, seemingly, don't seem to be as compliant.

Confuses me a little this?

Well you're still allowed £8million overspend this season. For clubs that are close to breaking even already and have owners willing to back them, that's an £8million transfer kitty.

Three possible reasons why we're not spending:

1) we're not close enough to breaking even ie our wage bill is too high

2) the owners can't or don't want to back us further

3) Pearson reckons there are no good value signings available

[Happy Fox]

Don't achieve promotion this season he will be gone, NP's best bet is to lead us to automatic promotion or at the very worst 3rd or 4th place, anything less than that and he will be gone, well his contract runs out at the end of the season.

[stevelcfc]

Again, I'll ask the question of FFP and why some other clubs don't seem to be overly bothered?

Bolton have got Beckford (I doubt he's gone there for peanuts), QPR have retained a number of players and are linked with Gary Hooper (he won't come cheap). Blackburn have retained Rhodes and have signed DJ.

Are these other clubs in a better financial position to us? I thought Bolton, for instance, were skint?

We seem to be wanting to massively comply with FFP whereas some other clubs, seemingly, don't seem to be as compliant.

Confuses me a little this?

 

The only thing I can think of is that they would just about still be getting the parachute payments and they have just sold Samba for £12 mill which would cover a large chunk of their wage expenditure.

 

 

Another small point, could you not just spread they payment of transfers over a extended period, say, 4/5 years that way the payments are not included in this years financials and we can still sign players?

[5waller5]

They've showed alot of faith in him so far .... not getting rid last season during that run was a mistake IMHO .... but they stuck with him.

 

So now I think they are proving that they will stick by him through thick and thin .... Patience may run out if we are out of the play off places after 12- 15 games. But who knows. It's been very hard to predict their actions so far!

[MC Prussian]

I can but assume that a worse finishing position than, say, 8th to 10th will cost him his job.

 

Depending on how unfortunate he is, it could be game over as early as January.

[Babylon]

Again, I'll ask the question of FFP and why some other clubs don't seem to be overly bothered?

Bolton have got Beckford (I doubt he's gone there for peanuts), QPR have retained a number of players and are linked with Gary Hooper (he won't come cheap). Blackburn have retained Rhodes and have signed DJ.

Are these other clubs in a better financial position to us? I thought Bolton, for instance, were skint?

We seem to be wanting to massively comply with FFP whereas some other clubs, seemingly, don't seem to be as compliant.

Confuses me a little this?

 

All of those clubs are receiving parachute payments at this moment, which equates to £15m for the first season, £17m for the second and then a further two payments of £8m per season. (£48m).

 

From next year anyone relegated will receive £15m a season over four years (£60m) Not sure on the yearly split for that one.

 

Lets put that into context. Bolton Wanderers are set to receive £17m next season, our whole turnover for the last accounting year was £21m.

[Guest Col city fan]

All of those clubs are receiving parachute payments at this moment, which equates to £15m for the first season, £17m for the second and then a further two payments of £8m per season. (£48m).

From next year anyone relegated will receive £15m a season over four years (£60m) Not sure on the yearly split for that one.

Lets put that into context. Bolton Wanderers are set to receive £17m next season, our whole turnover for the last accounting year was £21m.

Fair enough. I did wonder whether it was the parachute payments that would alter the level playing field, so to speak.

The parachute payments actually give a massive competitive advantage then don't they and, if you are correct, will do even moreso under FFP regulations?

The three promoted sides last season went up therefore at EXACTLY the right time, financially.

Cardiff's and Hull's policy of pending relatively big last season has yielded amazing financial reward and, if now sensible, will continue to do so for years.

[Babylon]

Fair enough. I did wonder whether it was the parachute payments that would alter the level playing field, so to speak.

The parachute payments actually give a massive competitive advantage then don't they and, if you are correct, will do even moreso under FFP regulations?

The three promoted sides last season went up therefore at EXACTLY the right time, financially.

Cardiff's and Hull's policy and spending relatively big last season has yielded amazing financial reward and, if now sensible, will continue to do so for years.

The problem is with them being over a long period now (4 years rather than 2), you could quite conceivably have 9/12 teams in the league all receiving parachute payments. Leaving those without them scrabbling for the scraps left at the table.

[Guest Col city fan]

The problem is with them being over a long period now (4 years rather than 2), you could quite conceivably have 9/12 teams in the league all receiving parachute payments. Leaving those without them scrabbling for the scraps left at the table.

Which makes promotion all the more important for the long term future of the club. Fail again, in the next two or three seasons, and we could be 'scrabbling for the scraps' as you say.

Cheers for the insight, I get it more now.

[Babylon]

Which makes promotion all the more important for the long term future of the club. Fail again, in the next two or three seasons, and we could be 'scrabbling for the scraps' as you say.

Cheers for the insight, I get it more now.

It is important, but as Wolves, Bolton, Boro, Blackpool, Blackburn, Birmingham have all found out it doesn't always give them an advantage.

 

You have to hope clubs don't get their shit together within the first couple of years as they will start cutting back more then. Bolton I think have unfortunately and have a good manager, I think they will bounce back next year. The others will struggle again.

[Wymsey]

Sacking Pearson would be the worst thing the club did since appointing Martin Allen.

[kingfox]

Good explaining Babs.

 

I was confused myself.

[Charl91]

I feel that failing to finish top 6 will certainly get him sacked, and not getting promoted this season will also quite likely get him sacked too.

[Babylon]

I feel that failing to finish top 6 will certainly get him sacked, and not getting promoted this season will also quite likely get him sacked too.

I'd hope they have more sense than to say if he doesn't do x then he's sacked.

 

It should never be as simple as that, there are many other factors to take into account.

[Dr The Singh]

He will be given this whole season, at which point his contract ends, and it will be upto owners to see if he justifies another contract

[Guest Col city fan]

I'd hope they have more sense than to say if he doesn't do x then he's sacked.

It should never be as simple as that, there are many other factors to take into account.

I hope you're right.

However, this is football. There will be targets and they may not all be logical? Who knows?

I agree with previous posters in that just scraping into the play offs last season (and nearly getting to the final) probably saved Pearson his job.

[Jace]

I think we could see changes by October time if we were well below the play offs mid table/bottom half although personally I don't think we will be

[Sharpe's Fox]

Agree that we would have to be in a dire position for Nige to be sacked and that if not promoted his contract will not be renewed. This also seems like the most sensible option imo.

[seenitall]

I hope you're right.

However, this is football. There will be targets and they may not all be logical? Who knows?

I agree with previous posters in that just scraping into the play offs last season (and nearly getting to the final) probably saved Pearson his job.

Fat lot of good though it did us.......

[sylofox]

Appreciate the title sounds a bit drastic. I don't want Pearson to get sacked. But I thought we could have a thread containing nothing but wild guesses on what the owners are expecting this season.

Personally, i think they would say they want promotion, but not that they expect promotion. Lots of people assumed Pearson would be sacked if he failed to get promotion last year, but he wasn't, probably thanks to how much he slashed the wage bill.

We're in a much tougher climate now thanks to FFP, the owners can't help financially, we are effectively penniless. We've struggled at the wrong end of the table and even been relegated under similar conditions in the past. Having wealthy owners no longer gives you any guarantee that even with a good manager you will be anywhere near the top.

I think Pearson will only be sacked if we're below 14th beyond Christmas.

Or for Top to sign up on here and read what some people think about him.

[seenitall]

Sacking Pearson would be the worst thing the club did since appointing Martin Allen.

The same Martin Allen that just won promotion with Gillingham? That's only one division lower than Niges only triumph.......

[Corky]

I'm amazed he's still here, thought he'd be gone by now.

 

Can't see him lasting long into the new season, whatever the results. They were looking for others when we were having a good run in October last year.

[sylofox]

He will see out his contract and they will say good bye.

We can't afford to sack him and pay another manager and possible compensation to another club.

[Finnaldo]

I can't imagine they'd sack him at any point this season unless we're really floating up shite creek. If he's mid table by Christmas they'll be the obvious "Off with his head!" comments floating around followed up a few weeks later with a vote of confidence to appease the Pearson out brigade, with the normal "we will improve".

 

If we're in the top half by the end of year I'd imagine he'll get another contract extension. If not the mutual consent leave at the end of his contract like others have pointed out. 

[Charl91]

I'd hope they have more sense than to say if he doesn't do x then he's sacked.

 

It should never be as simple as that, there are many other factors to take into account.

 

Yeah, I agree to some extent - it depends how strongly we finish the season, and how closely we miss out. That being said, I think not finishing top 6 would certainly be worthy of losing his job.