daib0 Posted 21 July 2013 Share Posted 21 July 2013 Hello again everyone. A real shame as a Reading fan as the Royals endured a sorry to say deserved relegation. But things are still positive, never mind ... and as often is the case you are strong candidates to go up this year. Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2013-14 organized by Sunderland’s Black Cat Chat, Reading's RR, and TOTT forums The game that I've titled is already well established, several seasons running now. But this season we’re going big time – should be over 30 individual club forums involved. The Sunderland ‘Black Cat Chat’ forum does the real work all during the season. I am the representative from the Reading’s Royals Rendezvous, and we also have had a strong Liverpool group too helping out too. Talk of the Terrace are also going to be a point of reference for all this coming season. And it’s dead easy! You simply guess ONCE (now!) what you think will be the final league positions for the Premier League 2013-14 (that’s all teams, in order 1st to 20th), leave them on this thread, and then sit back and enjoy! Nothing more!! Why the attraction of all this you may well ask?! Well, it’s now some time since we had the days of the BBC 606 fans forum service – most will remember it closed in June 2011, and still missed despite the fact we sometimes went over the top – so this is an ideal way to keep us all together still. This game will initially take you a couple of minutes, and then enjoy without having to make updates at all, all season. Right, below are the current 20 Premier teams in alphabetical order – simply copy these onto your PC and re-arrange them in your finishing order come the end of the 2013-14 season: ArsenalAston VillaCardiff CityChelseaCrystal PalaceEvertonFulhamHull CityLiverpoolManchester CityManchester UnitedNewcastle UnitedNorwich CitySouthamptonStoke CitySunderlandSwansea CityTottenham HotspurWest Bromwich AlbionWest Ham United According to your choices you score lots of, or better still few, points. And how do you score points?Scoring is as follows:For each team you score one point for each place away from its predicted position. Example - if you predict Sunderland to finish 9th and they finish 9th, you score 0 points (excellent predicting). If they finish 13th you score 4 points or if they finish 7th you score 2 points. Therefore, the nearer you get to the exact position and have less points mounting up the better. I will endeavour to make updates at the beginning of every month during the season out of interest, but all leaderboards during the season are given for interest.IMPORTANT! - The big winners are the people who have LEAST points after the final game has been played. The table positions won’t change position so much in the later stages of the season so … how can we maintain interest to the end you might be thinking?! Well, this season we have MONTHLY rewards for those in the top positions! That’s points rewards for the highest positions at the end of every month (calculating from the REAL table on the 31st at 11.59pm!!).Here's the idea:1st spot - take off 5 bonus points from score, so score dips even lower / 2nd - take off 4 bonus points / 3rd - take off 3 bonus points / 4th - take off 2 bonus points / 5th - take off 1 bonus pointBonus Points are for the most successful - Positions 1 to 5 – and includes tied points so there may well be far more than 5 people involved. Their position for the deduction will be based on their (true) teams' score, not taking any previous deductions into account which you do keep all season of course on your overall total . Also, where forums have an entry of a minimum of five people there will be a ‘board average’ too, thus you’ll be able to see how your forum copes against many of the others. I believe it’s an average set against a yardstick of averages and not a simple add up and divide, but the order of forums will always be correct. We’ll also have some notable entries from media, press and public figures to spice it up too. And any individual can enter too, without being affiliated to any football forum, no problem there, in which case go to Royals Rendezvous in "Rivals, but Friends" where just in this section any non-registered member is able to post. But over 90% of entries will probably come from well-known sites like yours ... which is what I encourage. Just one plea - Please use the team names given above, it's a pain in the a**e translating entries from WBA or W.B.A., or putting Manure or Chelski or worse etc, so that the Sunderland automatic process stands some chance. Although you may know who the **** are, the computer doesn't! Thanks!! And enjoy it! But think hard before committing pen to paper, this selection will last you all season!! (If you change opinion and ideas, then please make a new post and not simply edit, in case I don't get to read your change). ALL entries in before kick-off day in the Premier which is 17th AUGUST 2013 (and if possible don't leave it to the final day, it will strangle us!!!). daib0 It’s dead easy, as I said. Here’s my entry … Manchester City Chelsea Manchester United Tottenham Hotspur Liverpool Arsenal West Ham United West Bromwich Albion Everton Sunderland Newcastle United Fulham Stoke City Norwich City Swansea City Cardiff City Crystal Palace Hull City Southampton Aston Villa Your post will look like this, but with your order. Please copy and paste the teams so the spelling is similar, this is a plea from the organizers! Please don’t get offended with my selection, whether a team too high or too low, every place has to be occupied with a team, it’s never personal! OK, get them coming in lads … we do all the rest! Plenty of time yet, the premier season doesn’t start till the 17th August!! But we’ve already started - already nearly 100 guesses in from a dozen club forums in a couple of days … looking most promising. Top entries so far are from – HULL CITY – Not 606 Hull board 19 NEWCASTLE - The Toon Forum 14 FULHAM – Friends of Fulham 12 BARNSLEY – Talk of the Tarn Forum 10 READING – Royals Rendezvous 9 CARDIFF – Cardiff City Forum 5 Talk Of The Terrace (National Forum) 4 BLACKBURN – Roverstalk 3 PS - if I have placed this topic in the wrong section, then of course please transfer it to where best it should be ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogadug Posted 21 July 2013 Share Posted 21 July 2013 Chelsea Manchester United Arsenal Tottenham Hotspur Manchester City Liverpool Swansea City Everton West Ham United Newcastle United Sunderland West Bromwich Albion Norwich City Fulham Southampton Aston Villa Cardiff City Stoke City Hull City Crystal Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston. Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Chelsea Manchester City Tottenham Hotspur Man Utd Liverpool Arsenal Swansea Everton Newcastle West Brom Fulham Stoke Sunderland West Ham Norwich Aston Villa Southampton Cardiff Crystal Palace Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stix Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Chelsea Manchester City Manchester United Arsenal Tottenham Hotspur Liverpool Everton Swansea City West Bromwich Albion Newcastle United Sunderland West Ham United Hull City Fulham Southampton Stoke City Aston Villa Cardiff City Norwich City Crystal Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daib0 Posted 22 July 2013 Author Share Posted 22 July 2013 Thanks! An amazing response guys so far!! I've not even approached all the forums yet but results of entries so far are (red have minimum 5 for 'forum' average entry) - HULL CITY – Not 606 Hull board 21 SWANSEA – Planet Swans 18 NEWCASTLE - The Toon Forum 14 FULHAM – Friends of Fulham 12 BARNSLEY – Talk of the Tarn Forum 12 READING – Royals Rendezvous 9 DONCASTER – Viking Chat Forum 6 CARDIFF – Cardiff City Forum 5 Talk Of The Terrace (National Forum) 4 LEICESTER – Foxes Talk 3 DERBY – DCFC Fans Forum 3 BLACKBURN – Roverstalk 3 LIVERPOOL – Liverpool FC Forum 3 BRIGHTON – North Stand Chat 3 WEST BROMWICH ALBION – WBAZone 2 NORWICH CITY – Not 606 Norwich Board 2 CRYSTAL PALACE – Holmesdale Forum 2 WATFORD – WFC Forums 2 MANCHESTER UNITED – United Lounge Forum 1 BLACKPOOL – Back Henry Street Forum 1 WBA – BaggiesZone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Manchester United Chelsea Manchester City Tottenham Hotspur ArsenalLiverpool Everton Fulham West Ham United Swansea City Newcastle United Stoke City Cardiff City West Bromwich Albion Aston Villa Sunderland Southampton Crystal PalaceNorwich City Hull City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Hard luck with staying up daib0, you will be strong this season though. My entry as follows; Chelsea Manchester City Arsenal Manchester United Liverpool Tottenham West Ham Everton Swansea City Sunderland Newcastle United Stoke City Fulham West Brom Aston Villa Norwich City Hull City Southampton Crystal Palace Cardiff City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theessexfox Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Chelsea Manchester United Manchester City Arsenal Tottenham Hotspur Liverpool Everton Fulham West Ham Newcastle United Swansea City Sunderland West Brom Norwich City Aston Villa Southampton Stoke City Hull City Crystal Palace Cardiff City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Chelsea Man City Man Utd Arsenal Tottenham Liverpool Everton Swansea West Ham West Brom Southampton Fulham Sunderland Aston Villa Stoke City Norwich City Newcastle United Cardiff City Crystal Palace Hull City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamN Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Chelsea Manchester City Manchester United Arsenal Tottenham Hotspur Liverpool Everton Swansea City West Ham United West Bromwich Albion Southampton Fulham Norwich City Stoke City Sunderland Aston Villa Crystal Palace Newcastle United Hull City Cardiff City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Chelsea Manchester United Manchester City Arsenal Liverpool Tottenham Hotspur West Ham United Everton Swansea City Southampton Newcastle United Aston Villa West Bromwich Albion Fulham Sunderland Stoke City Cardiff City Norwich City Crystal Palce Hull City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Chelsea Man City Man United Tottenham Arsenal Liverpool Swansea Everton West Brom Newcastle West Ham Fulham Villa Southampton Sunderland Norwich Stoke Palace Cardiff Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Manchester City Chelsea Manchester United Liverpool Tottenham Arsenal Everton West Ham United Southampton Swansea City Fulham West Bromwich Albion Newcastle United Sunderland Stoke City Aston Villa Norwich Cardiff Crystal Palace Hull City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB11 Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 ChelseaManchester CityArsenalManchester UnitedTottenham HotspurLiverpoolSwansea CityEvertonNewcastle UnitedWest Bromwich AlbionSouthamptonFulhamWest Ham UnitedAston VillaCardiff CitySunderlandStoke CityNorwich CityCrystal PalaceHull City abbreviated team names You basically deliberately didn't follow his instructions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daib0 Posted 22 July 2013 Author Share Posted 22 July 2013 Many thanks, all safely noted down. Yep, if possible please stick with the original spellings on the list shown, otherwise I have to check every line and edit, to fit in with the Sunderland computer programme ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daib0 Posted 22 July 2013 Author Share Posted 22 July 2013 An amazing response guys so far!! 186 guesses / from 25 forums come from (red have 'forum average' entry): HULL CITY – Not 606 Hull board 25 SWANSEA – Planet Swans 18 NEWCASTLE - The Toon Forum 16 FULHAM – Friends of Fulham 14 BARNSLEY – Talk of the Tarn Forum 13 LEICESTER – Foxes Talk 12 BRIGHTON – North Stand Chat 12 DONCASTER – Viking Chat Forum 10 READING – Royals Rendezvous 9 WATFORD – WFC Forums 8 CRYSTAL PALACE – Holmesdale Forum 6 EVERTON – ToffeeTalk Forum 5 CARDIFF – Cardiff City Forum 5 BLACKPOOL – Back Henry Street Forum 5 Talk Of The Terrace (National Forum) 4 DERBY – DCFC Fans Forum 4 WIGAN – This Northern Soul 3 BLACKBURN – Roverstalk 3 LIVERPOOL – Liverpool FC Forum 3 BURNLEY – The Longside 2 CHELSEA – Chelsea FC Forums 2 WEST BROMWICH ALBION – WBAZone 3 NORWICH CITY – Not 606 Norwich Board 2 MANCHESTER UNITED – United Lounge Forum 1 WBA – BaggiesZone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narborough_fox Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Manchester City Chelsea Manchester United Arsenal Tottenham Liverpool Swansea Everton West Ham United Southampton Fulham West Brom Sunderland Aston Villa Norwich City Newcastle United Stoke City Cardiff City Hull City Crystal Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ousefox Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Chelsea Manchester United Arsenal Liverpool Manchester City Tottenham Sunderland West Brom Swansea West Ham United Southampton Fulham Everton Aston Villa Norwich City Newcastle United Hull City Stoke City Cardiff City Crystal Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Manchester City Chelsea Arsenal Liverpool Tottenham Manchester Utd Swansea West Ham United Fulham West Brom Sunderland Southampton Everton Newcastle United Aston Villa Stoke City Cardiff City Norwich City Hull City Crystal Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Walsh5 Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Chelsea Manchester City Manchester United Arsenal Liverpool Tottenham West Ham United West Brom Newcastle United Fulham Stoke City Everton Southampton Sunderland Swansea Aston Villa Cardiff City Norwich Hull City Crystal Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Chelsea Manchester City Arsenal Manchester United Tottenham Hotspur Liverpool Swansea City Everton Newcastle United West Bromwich Albion Southampton Fulham West Ham United Aston Villa Cardiff City Sunderland Stoke City Norwich City Crystal Palace Hull City You basically deliberately didn't follow his instructions? Wasn't deliberate at all actually. Just didn't read it all. Sorry if this upsets you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 22 July 2013 Share Posted 22 July 2013 Chelsea Man Utd Man City Tottenham Liverpool Arsenal Everton Swansea West Ham West Brom Fulham Aston Villa Southampton Newcastle Hull Sunderland Stoke Norwich Cardiff Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daib0 Posted 23 July 2013 Author Share Posted 23 July 2013 Thanks guys, I'll try and do a big general update at the weekend. But I can say there are more than 275 guesses from 30 different forums now; we're a team of four people trying to keep up with entering the guesses on the big Sunderland computer, and it's tough going, eating up SO many hours!! That's the reason we said about getting teams' names right - there is an alphabetical thing, so not bad if you put WBA instead of West Bromwich Albion, but put Spurs for Tottenham, Palace for Crystal Palace or Villa for Aston Villa and the order goes up the creek - we edit where necessary but it's gives me a head-ache! Also, the forums participating are not necessarily the biggest per each club but with several seasons experience we've found these to be the nicest - OK, we're all ambitious for our own team but with virtually all these it's possible to have good chat and banter if you show respect. Should be fun, it's turning into a MEGA game now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieTodger Posted 24 July 2013 Share Posted 24 July 2013 Manchester United Manchester City Arsenal Chelsea Liverpool Tottenham Hotspur Swansea City West Ham United Everton Newcastle United Southampton West Bromwich Albion Aston Villa Norwich City Cardiff City Fulham Sunderland Hull City Stoke City Crystal Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneDog Posted 24 July 2013 Share Posted 24 July 2013 Manchester United Chelsea Manchester City Liverpool Arsenal Tottenham Hotspur Swansea City Everton West Ham United Fulham Newcastle United Stoke City Southampton West Bromwich Albion Aston Villa Norwich City Cardiff City Sunderland Hull City Crystal Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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