fleckneymike Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 I freely admit this isn't terrifically scientific but having found that successful managers (and unsuccessful ones too) tend to have a near immediate impact on their respective team in recent seasons I thought I'd quickly look and see if we at City have ever bucked that trend. Peter Hodge, who took five seasons to build a promotion winning side and style, aside no other City boss has really 'built' a successful side. Nearly every single manager who has achieved anything at City, did so within 2 seasons (Norman Bullock did it in 3). I can only think of West Ham as an example of a club who've historically been a stable club (i.e. regularly winning something outside the first two years of a managers reign). Can anyone think of any more?
MPH Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 Alex Ferguson? ( I understand he isn't technically a football club, but it did take him a few years to get on the right track..)
fleckneymike Posted 31 July 2013 Author Posted 31 July 2013 Alex Ferguson? ( I understand he isn't technically a football club, but it did take him a few years to get on the right track..) As "United" Busby won the FA Cup after 2 seasons, the 'longest' it took other than Fergie is Earnest Magnell who took FIVE!
Guest MattP Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 As "United" Busby won the FA Cup after 2 seasons, the 'longest' it took other than Fergie is Earnest Magnell who took FIVE! I'm sure they didn't mind 5 years of nothing for what happened in the next 20.
Zingari Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 Very few managers get the chance build a team to win things. Most managers only get a couple of seasons at best , and one or two of those teams with a relatively new manager ( most teams) will invariably win something , but most won't ,
Trav Le Bleu Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 Stability and Peter Hodge would be a great name for a band.
Babylon Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 Might not be classed as winning things but I think Curbishly at Charlton, George Burley at Ipswich both took a while to get their teams promoted and turned them into decent premier league teams for a time.
Babylon Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 It has and will become rarer for someone to achieve over a period of time, because they simply don't get it. The average tenure of a manager in the championship is currently 1.06 years, so it's not exactly a surprise you need to go back quite far to find people who achieved over time. Between May 2012 and May 2013 there were 23 managerial changes in the championship alone. With only 3 teams getting promoted there are more managers getting replaced that don't go up compared to those that do.
Corky Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 Might not be classed as winning things but I think Curbishly at Charlton, George Burley at Ipswich both took a while to get their teams promoted and turned them into decent premier league teams for a time. Well, one year in Burley's case.
Babylon Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 Well, one year in Burley's case. I do believe a year is a period of time?
Corky Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 I do believe a year is a period of time? It's slightly longer than Peter Taylor's decent team
fleckneymike Posted 31 July 2013 Author Posted 31 July 2013 Might not be classed as winning things but I think Curbishly at Charlton, George Burley at Ipswich both took a while to get their teams promoted and turned them into decent premier league teams for a time. Curbishley took sole charge in June 1995 so two full seasons resulted in promotion in 1997/8, Burley though did take a long while to achieve promotion.
Babylon Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 so two full seasons resulted in promotion in 1997/8 Hope for Pearson yet then
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 Hope for Pearson yet then I really hope I'm proved wrong but I genuinely think Pearson won't get us promoted even if he is given 5 years of trying
Babylon Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 I really hope I'm proved wrong but I genuinely think Pearson won't get us promoted even if he is given 5 years of trying Maybe, maybe not. He wouldn't get that anyway.
Guest MattP Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 I really hope I'm proved wrong but I genuinely think Pearson won't get us promoted even if he is given 5 years of trying Given the restrictions on us I think anyone is going to struggle in the next five years.
seenitall Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 Everton? David Moyes Stability acieved but no real progress
Bluetintedspecs Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 Stability acieved but no real progress Perhaps a bit harsh on my part seenitall, resources say he's done a good job!
Kitchandro Posted 31 July 2013 Posted 31 July 2013 I'm not really bothered tbh. Records can be broken and stats can be misleading. Even last season proved that. I'm not really sure what we're supposed to take from things like this.
Babylon Posted 1 August 2013 Posted 1 August 2013 Stability acieved but no real progressYeah he should have been competing with the others spending hundreds of millions!!
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