Manchesterred Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 Hi I've been looking everywhere for video footage of the Matty James red card incident. I've since spoken to a source close to Matty And and viewed the Pearson interview. Both think it's a ridiculous decision but I was away when it happened and would like to make my own mind up. Does anyone have a link to the first yellow and the red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammie82uk Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 Been looking for this as well doesn't seem to excist tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 His first yellow was his first tackle of the game, and certainly didn't warrant a yellow card. The referee didn't think and went straight for his pocket, which is the difference with Premier League referees. The Charlton player, Jackson I think it was, got away with his first challenge. Ridiculous. One of their players even went in two footed (or it looked that way from the stand) and Deadman did his usual 'play on because it's not a Charlton player that's down'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep blue Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 Can't understand it. The official video on Player is very short. In particular, it doesn't show James' first booking, and the sending-off offence has been edited out; no view of Drinky's near miss that preceded it, nor of the tackle on James or his reaction; it only comes in as the ref is brandishing the red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 Pretty poor really. First tackle simply wasn't a booking and I feel that referees should give players a stern warning rather than a booking if they talk back in the manner James did. Realise that it can be an emotional game and the player probably doesn't mean to cause trouble and is just frustrated. One firm talking to and then he knows what's what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 The FA have ordered all footage to be destroyed for some unknown reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 The FA have ordered all footage to be destroyed for some unknown reason Please, please tell me you're making that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 Never got any sympathy for players who get disciplined for talking back to an official. Every other professional in other sports seems to manage not to do it, control yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 Is a good point Matt P football players need to shut up regardless of the decision I can never remember an incident where a player has been able to make an official change their mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 Never got any sympathy for players who get disciplined for talking back to an official. Every other professional in other sports seems to manage not to do it, control yourself. He wasn't booked for talking to the ref though - the booking was for "running at the ref in an aggressive manner". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 He wasn't booked for talking to the ref though - the booking was for "running at the ref in an aggressive manner". Really? Didn't even realise that was in the rules now. Lesson learnt hopefully, also shows why it's so important players are up to date with the laws of the game if they can be booked for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manchesterred Posted 4 September 2013 Author Share Posted 4 September 2013 Really? Didn't even realise that was in the rules now. Lesson learnt hopefully, also shows why it's so important players are up to date with the laws of the game if they can be booked for that. The source I spoke to said in the changing rooms after being marched down the tunnel he was angry and confused! as was the management staff. He said that not once did Matty swear at the referee nor cause harm to anyone, it was due to the manner in which he ran to apeal the penalty. After listening to pearsons interview he too said the 4th official could only come up with the manner in which he ran. How long has this booking offence been in the game? And also if he was booked for a furious run it's pathetic. When u see the likes of Rooney in an England shirt get pushed off the ball quite easily he picks himself up and chases the ball like a mad man. Would that not be considered a furious run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 The source I spoke to said in the changing rooms after being marched down the tunnel he was angry and confused! as was the management staff. He said that not once did Matty swear at the referee nor cause harm to anyone, it was due to the manner in which he ran to apeal the penalty. After listening to pearsons interview he too said the 4th official could only come up with the manner in which he ran. How long has this booking offence been in the game? And also if he was booked for a furious run it's pathetic. When u see the likes of Rooney in an England shirt get pushed off the ball quite easily he picks himself up and chases the ball like a mad man. Would that not be considered a furious run? It needs to be clarified that's for sure. If you can be booked for that players need to know. I have no problem with it if they want too, you wouldn't run at someone in the street, you wouldn't run at a work colleague who had done something wrong so you don't run aggressively at an official. Rules need to be set in stone though, personally I'd like only the captain be allowed to speak to the official, that would stop it like a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 Please, please tell me you're making that up. FT have, a post it the highlights, which included the second booking has dissapeared, maybe it is still on Sky's web site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 it was on here in one of the threads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Dream Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 He wasn't booked for talking to the ref though - the booking was for "running at the ref in an aggressive manner". Then why didn't he book/send him off straight the way then? He ran over but it wasn't too he was walking next to the referee that he decided to get his card out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 Good point. He only got booked after a few seconds' talking. Maybe 'aggressive movement towards official' was the official line but I get the impression James was sent off because the referee was getting irritated and didn't like having his authority questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 He must have said something mind whatever he was actually sent off for. I've never seen a player in 25 years of watching football 'aggressively' run over to the referee and then stand there next to them with their mouth shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manchesterred Posted 4 September 2013 Author Share Posted 4 September 2013 I've never seen a player in 25 years of watching football 'aggressively' run over to the referee and then stand there next to them with their mouth shut. No but it is possible to run up to the referee aggressively, and ask why the decision wasnt given.(without swearing) Surely you can't be sent off for asking why wasnt it a penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep blue Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 it was on here in one of the threads! Can you point us at it? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 This is how I interpreted it. The ref obviously didn't think it was a penalty and could have interpreted it as a dive, perhaps the ref let him off that. However, when he ran at him, I can imagine he thought, "Ok pal if you want to play that way, have another yellow." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narborough_fox Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 Schmeichel got booked after the 2nd goal for the same thing didn't he? Got up, ran towards the referee and got booked as soon as he reached the referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpaM Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 He must have said something mind whatever he was actually sent off for. I've never seen a player in 25 years of watching football 'aggressively' run over to the referee and then stand there next to them with their mouth shut. He didn't say anything to the ref, didnt swear, didnt raise his voice or anything. The ref booked him for the way Matty walked up to him, im not even joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 Can you point us at it? Thanks. http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/topic/90124-charlton-post-match/?p=2710027 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 4 September 2013 Share Posted 4 September 2013 No but it is possible to run up to the referee aggressively, and ask why the decision wasnt given.(without swearing) Surely you can't be sent off for asking why wasnt it a penalty? He didn't say anything to the ref, didnt swear, didnt raise his voice or anything. The ref booked him for the way Matty walked up to him, im not even joking. None of us have any evidence of what happened. The fact some are saying he ran up to the ref and some are saying he walked says it all, if we can't agree on that how can we agree on what he actually said or didn't say. Just be a professional, don't speak to the official and you won't get disciplined, it works in boxing, rugby, cricket, hockey and many others, it really isn't that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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