David Lowe Posted 21 September 2013 Share Posted 21 September 2013 Yet again we concede a crucial goal in the 90th minute away from home. It can be no coincidence that it has happened so often in recent years away from home but rarely happens at home. Surely it is either down to tactics or nerves. Do we go too defensive instead of trying for another goal? Do we make the wrong substitutions? Do we not have the nerve to hold out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 21 September 2013 Share Posted 21 September 2013 Cardiff, Brighton and Blackpool are the ones that spring to mind. All good teams who were playing well at the time. Frustrating but it shows how good we were to be beating them during a game. Not that bothered personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lowe Posted 21 September 2013 Author Share Posted 21 September 2013 If we are winning and end up with a draw away from home it is still a good result particularly against the teams you have mentioned. It is just that it has happened so often you start to wonder what the reason is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 21 September 2013 Share Posted 21 September 2013 I'd be willing to bet it happens to us no more than anybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillonlcfc Posted 21 September 2013 Share Posted 21 September 2013 Well should we not waste time by the corner flag? We got a corner and just put it in the box, absolute waste. (86/7 minute, I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 21 September 2013 Share Posted 21 September 2013 Well should we not waste time by the corner flag? We got a corner and just put it in the box, absolute waste. (86/7 minute, I think) You seen many teams keep the ball in the corner for 3 minutes plus stoppage time?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 21 September 2013 Share Posted 21 September 2013 The thing about this one - it was avoidable. So very easily avoidable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseBreath Posted 21 September 2013 Share Posted 21 September 2013 Would be interesting to know how often an attempt by a manager to close out a one goal lead by changing to a more defensive formation actually results in conceding a goal. It's not just Leicester. But every time we make that kind of change it immediately feels inevitable that we're going to concede. If you've won 80 minutes of a game playing one system then obviously its working, so why tinker? It never seems to work. Most frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade Posted 21 September 2013 Share Posted 21 September 2013 Would be interesting to know how often an attempt by a manager to close out a one goal lead by changing to a more defensive formation actually results in conceding a goal. It's not just Leicester. But every time we make that kind of change it immediately feels inevitable that we're going to concede. If you've won 80 minutes of a game playing one system then obviously its working, so why tinker? It never seems to work. Most frustrating. incorrect, we were losing for over an hour of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 21 September 2013 Share Posted 21 September 2013 incorrect, we were losing for over an hour of it.Incorrect, it was 53 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFC FOX Posted 21 September 2013 Share Posted 21 September 2013 We nearly lost he game, Schlupp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les-TA-Jon Posted 21 September 2013 Share Posted 21 September 2013 In our bad run last season, a lot of people were blaming our new found inability to score, but it was also in other ways down to our lack of experience/calm heads to close out games in the last 20 mins. We started conceding a lot of late goals. Of the home games I've seen so far this season, when we've been in winning positions we've been loads better at closing the game out. We've started possession football, passing it along the back, keeping it in the corners, short freekicks/corners etc. Playing too defensively can invite pressure though - a good example of this was the game against Blackburn. They scored their penalty around 70 mins, and from 70-80 mins we just hoofed it away and panicked, inviting pressure. It was actually from 80-90mins that we got our act together and started doing all the sensible things listed above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marbelladave Posted 21 September 2013 Share Posted 21 September 2013 There is absolutely no problem with a team sitting back and defending a lead, if you they any good at it. We are not and have not been in many years....... I have spoken about this many times, our back 3 are fallible and rather flakey under pressure inside our own box. Our defending from crosses and in particular from corners is woeful and costs us on a regular basis. I genuinely thought we were doing better this season in this respect but not today, Schmeichel cocked it up for the penalty but the chaos was obvious on a number of other occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lowe Posted 21 September 2013 Author Share Posted 21 September 2013 I'd be willing to bet it happens to us no more than anybody else. I'd be willing to bet that away from home on 90 minutes it happens to us more than most. It is frustrating because in general we travel quite well. Apart from Barnsley last season we always seem to be competitive but just can't see it out often enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 21 September 2013 Share Posted 21 September 2013 Definitely happens against us more than it happens for us. It's a mental thing entirely - the worst thing you can do IMO is to sit back and rely on last ditch clearances. Wigan against Man City in the cup final was the way you did it - Man City, despite their apparent greater quality, were pushed back and back and back by a Wigan side who kept the ball well and didn't hand them the initiative. It's something we do far too often, for me. Although not sure you can blame that as such, Schmeichel's cost us today, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedlock Posted 21 September 2013 Share Posted 21 September 2013 I was not there but today sounds like poor mis-judgement from Kaspar. Generally,over the last few seasons we have not been good holding a lead going into the last 10-15 minutes.Set pieces into our box have been a particular problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 How many goals do we score in the last minute at home? I bet it is fairly even, it happens, home team is losing, chuck everything forwards, they are going to create chances, last minute goals are a fairly regular occurrence for most teams, by fairly regular I mean 3 or 4 a season. No big deal, we'll get our fair share of last minute points, disappointing of course, but no real cause for concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Decent point. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakemoore Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Win at home. Draw away. We've done that this week. And besides, we've been far better this season at not conceding late up to today so I'm not going to go and blast the players. Still a great start to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Ahh something to moan about! We're 3rd, try and enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zingari Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 How many goals do we score in the last minute at home? I bet it is fairly even, it happens, home team is losing, chuck everything forwards, they are going to create chances, last minute goals are a fairly regular occurrence for most teams, by fairly regular I mean 3 or 4 a season. No big deal, we'll get our fair share of last minute points, disappointing of course, but no real cause for concern. I was thinking the very same . We have to take into consideration that the team who are losing are desperate to get forward so it's not us alone changing tactics by being defensive, but them too . It's a gamble they are forced to make, sometimes it pays off , sometimes it results in going further behind. We do seem pretty susceptible to it though, and often look very shaky defending a slender lead, but I suppose that's just our own nerves kicking in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazfox9 Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Thing about yesterday was, I genuinely thought we looked comfortable. Blackpool had no threat going forward, it seemed it was always going to take a worldy or a mistake to break us down. Unfortunately it was the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 The thing is, yesterday I don't even think we sat back on the lead in the last ten minutes. Ferguson easily stole ten yards with his throw in and then Kasper does that. I could understand if it was a collective error but yesterday it was an individual error and one that could've been avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lowe Posted 22 September 2013 Author Share Posted 22 September 2013 Ahh something to moan about! We're 3rd, try and enjoy it. This does not mean that we can't discuss something that has become a major problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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