David Lowe Posted 22 September 2013 Author Share Posted 22 September 2013 Thing about yesterday was, I genuinely thought we looked comfortable. Blackpool had no threat going forward, it seemed it was always going to take a worldy or a mistake to break us down. Unfortunately it was the latter. This makes things worse - we nearly always look comfortable until we get into the added time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lowe Posted 22 September 2013 Author Share Posted 22 September 2013 How many goals do we score in the last minute at home? I bet it is fairly even, it happens, home team is losing, chuck everything forwards, they are going to create chances, last minute goals are a fairly regular occurrence for most teams, by fairly regular I mean 3 or 4 a season. No big deal, we'll get our fair share of last minute points, disappointing of course, but no real cause for concern. By my reckoning it has happened 30 times in the last 5 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guvnor Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Just seen the Kasper error on the FLS, he did appear to bump into a Blackpool player, but **** me there were at least 15 players in the box, their player was facing the corner flag no goal scoring opportunity,and he fell over like he had been shot. Harsh decision by the ref suppose he was trying to even things up imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Just seen the Kasper error on the FLS, he did appear to bump into a Blackpool player, but **** me there were at least 15 players in the box, their player was facing the corner flag no goal scoring opportunity,and he fell over like he had been shot. Harsh decision by the ref suppose he was trying to even things up imo. A foul is a foul. Goalscoring opportunities don't come into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al-aLondon-Foxile Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 I think some people look for more than there is. Kasper made a diabolical decision to go for that ball, pretty sure he had made his mind up before the fella threw it, and it was never ever his to collect. There were far too many players between him and the ball. I've criticised his judgement on here before, he's a good all-round keeper, a superb shot stopper but not commanding enough with high balls in the box for me. Maybe this spreads through the team when it comes to closing games out? But I'm sure we'd have won yesterday without his error, just as I'm sure we'd have lost on numerous occasions without his shot stopping ability. A point away at a team near the top is ok, and but for the way in which we grabbed the draw from the hands of victory, one which we'd have settled for at the start I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseBreath Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Found some stats for goals scored and conceded by 15 and 10 minute periods. http://www.soccerstats.com/timing.asp?league=england2_2013 So for last season we conceded the joint least amount of goals in the last 15 and last 10 minute periods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lowe Posted 22 September 2013 Author Share Posted 22 September 2013 Found some stats for goals scored and conceded by 15 and 10 minute periods. http://www.soccerstats.com/timing.asp?league=england2_2013 So for last season we conceded the joint least amount of goals in the last 15 and last 10 minute periods Thanks for finding that - they need a 90-95 minutes section though! Overall we have a better defence than most teams so not surprised by these figures, it's just that we have problems around 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formidable Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Kasper needed the draw on his Mark Jarvis coupon. No doubt about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Thanks for finding that - they need a 90-95 minutes section though! Overall we have a better defence than most teams so not surprised by these figures, it's just that we have problems around 90 minutes.Clearly we dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlukka Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 We nearly lost he game, Schlupp... Heart-in-mouth moment there. Think that was straight out of the Frank Sinclair manual! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettsj2 Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 It doesnt happen that often. Just when it does, it feels like it happens all the time. I am suprised at how many penalties we have had though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 This does not mean that we can't discuss something that has become a major problem. Major problem? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 I bet most fans of most clubs would say exactly the same. Teams get nervous in the last few minutes. From playing at a reasonable level myself I remember often conceding late goals even in games where my team were comfortably in control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guvnor Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Just seen the Kasper error on the FLS, he did appear to bump into a Blackpool player, but **** me there were at least 15 players in the box, their player was facing the corner flag no goal scoring opportunity,and he fell over like he had been shot. Harsh decision by the ref suppose he was trying to even things up imo. A foul is a foul. Goalscoring opportunities don't come into it. I do realise a foul inside the penalty area is a penalty, and it doesn't have to be a goal soring opportunity, I was suggesting the manner the player hit the deck, and his position within the area makes it a cruel way to concede a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Incidently, remember the game in 2012 when we drew 3-3 with Blackpool when they scored in the last minute. 63 games ago and the last time we conceded more than 2 goals in a game. If we get to 76 then that is a football league record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillonlcfc Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 You seen many teams keep the ball in the corner for 3 minutes plus stoppage time?! Well, why not? Waste a few minutes, sit back? Or because there's 6 minutes left should we not waste time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 How many goals do we score in the last minute at home? I bet it is fairly even, it happens, home team is losing, chuck everything forwards, they are going to create chances, last minute goals are a fairly regular occurrence for most teams, by fairly regular I mean 3 or 4 a season. No big deal, we'll get our fair share of last minute points, disappointing of course, but no real cause for concern. How many? Very few. Leeds at home last year is the only one I can remember. Having said that - how often are losing at home in the 89th minute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Incidently, remember the game in 2012 when we drew 3-3 with Blackpool when they scored in the last minute. 63 games ago and the last time we conceded more than 2 goals in a game. If we get to 76 then that is a football league record. We haven't conceded 3 goals in a league game since that? Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 I think some people look for more than there is. Kasper made a diabolical decision to go for that ball, pretty sure he had made his mind up before the fella threw it, and it was never ever his to collect. There were far too many players between him and the ball. I've criticised his judgement on here before, he's a good all-round keeper, a superb shot stopper but not commanding enough with high balls in the box for me. Maybe this spreads through the team when it comes to closing games out? But I'm sure we'd have won yesterday without his error, just as I'm sure we'd have lost on numerous occasions without his shot stopping ability. A point away at a team near the top is ok, and but for the way in which we grabbed the draw from the hands of victory, one which we'd have settled for at the start I think. I agree, Kasper made a mistake, end of!! Kasper at times is very rash and hesitates, over rated keeper if u ask me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 I don't think we were sitting back that much. Obviously Blackpool will have pressure, being at home, but we were still winning corners and playing in midfield well into the last 5 minutes. The only way they looked like scoring was through a mistake and it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 We haven't conceded 3 goals in a league game since that? Jesus. only in the most important game of the season, guess it doesn't count as a league game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 only in the most important game of the season, guess it doesn't count as a league game. Very much Huddersfield's 'unbeaten run' esque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Ahh something to moan about! We're 3rd, try and enjoy it. Why would we "enjoy'" dropping another place in the league after holding top place a week ago or gifting two vital points and denying ourselves an important victory that saw us slip out of the automatic promotion places? No, we're not in a bad position, but I remember what happened when we topped the table last season. We just couldn't cope with it and eventually went on the sort of run you'd normally only have in nightmares. Yesterday's closing minutes only suggested that we've still learned nothing about how to cope with the pressure of being top. It's not just about football. We need to get our attitude right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Why would we "enjoy'" dropping another place in the league after holding top place a week ago or gifting two vital points and denying ourselves an important victory that saw us slip out of the automatic promotion places? No, we're not in a bad position, but I remember what happened when we topped the table last season. We just couldn't cope with it and eventually went on the sort of run you'd normally only have in nightmares. Yesterday's closing minutes only suggested that we've still learned nothing about how to cope with the pressure of being top. It's not just about football. We need to get our attitude right. What about the previous week when we attacked sensibly at home to Wigan? I go back to my original point. We're no better or worse than anybody else in this division at defending a lead. Arguably we should be as one of the division's better sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 22 September 2013 Share Posted 22 September 2013 Why would we "enjoy'" dropping another place in the league after holding top place a week ago or gifting two vital points and denying ourselves an important victory that saw us slip out of the automatic promotion places? No, we're not in a bad position, but I remember what happened when we topped the table last season. We just couldn't cope with it and eventually went on the sort of run you'd normally only have in nightmares. Yesterday's closing minutes only suggested that we've still learned nothing about how to cope with the pressure of being top. It's not just about football. We need to get our attitude right. Hang on, we were knocked off top by dint of not playing and someone else claiming a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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