cityfanlee23 Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 Thats your opinion..... It's annoying how the fact we are in third seems to overrule the underlying problems in our club.. the defence looked tire...... "We're 3rd" the midfield looked los...... "we're 3rd" wood is on bad for.... "we're 3rd" Nugent is not scoring from open...... "we're 3rd" Oh okay... no problems here then Yet "IF" anything goes wrong, those same people come crawling back spouting that, the defence look tired, the midfield look lost, wood is on poor form, nugent is not scoring from open play etc etc... Only at leicester city do we ignore any problems until they are too big to solve
Corky Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 What as he done ? we have not won anything, he totally ruined last season from Huddersfield onwards, theres no one else to blame for that collapse is there ! Do you actually understand the word stupid ? People like you talk a load of bollox rather than look at the facts, promotion was his remit, and he stated that himself, he failed, play off semi' equals failure. He should have been sacked last year, that run of 17 games was a disgrace and it was all down to his incompetence. You try and disguise the facts with FFP and by stating that Sven left us in a mess that he had to sort out, he's building this he's building that, a young and hungry team rubbish. Young and hungry, only go together if its true, its not, its a sound bite used by twats. Winning is winning, and this bloke as won nothing in his career bar division 3, once. He's a loser, whats stupid about that eh. Ok, 5th in his first full season at this level, 9th after coming in three months late (not good enough), 6th last season (should've been higher but still an improvement) and so far, 3rd when many were predicting a struggle (oh yeah, look at Taylor omg wtf). So his record is nothing amazing, but useless? Slightly over the top.
Unabomber Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 What as he done ? we have not won anything, he totally ruined last season from Huddersfield onwards, theres no one else to blame for that collapse is there ! Do you actually understand the word stupid ? People like you talk a load of bollox rather than look at the facts, promotion was his remit, and he stated that himself, he failed, play off semi' equals failure. He should have been sacked last year, that run of 17 games was a disgrace and it was all down to his incompetence. You try and disguise the facts with FFP and by stating that Sven left us in a mess that he had to sort out, he's building this he's building that, a young and hungry team rubbish. Young and hungry, only go together if its true, its not, its a sound bite used by twats. Winning is winning, and this bloke as won nothing in his career bar division 3, once. He's a loser, whats stupid about that eh. Who would you prefer?
BNET Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 It's annoying how the fact we are in third seems to overrule the underlying problems in our club.. the defence looked tire...... "We're 3rd" the midfield looked los...... "we're 3rd" wood is on bad for.... "we're 3rd" Nugent is not scoring from open...... "we're 3rd" Oh okay... no problems here then Yet "IF" anything goes wrong, those same people come crawling back spouting that, the defence look tired, the midfield look lost, wood is on poor form, nugent is not scoring from open play etc etc... Only at leicester city do we ignore any problems until they are too big to solve Yes but is Pearson a winner ? remember that you have to win things to be called a winner.
NewburyFox Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 What as he done ? we have not won anything, he totally ruined last season from Huddersfield onwards, theres no one else to blame for that collapse is there ! Do you actually understand the word stupid ? People like you talk a load of bollox rather than look at the facts, promotion was his remit, and he stated that himself, he failed, play off semi' equals failure. He should have been sacked last year, that run of 17 games was a disgrace and it was all down to his incompetence. You try and disguise the facts with FFP and by stating that Sven left us in a mess that he had to sort out, he's building this he's building that, a young and hungry team rubbish. Young and hungry, only go together if its true, its not, its a sound bite used by twats. Winning is winning, and this bloke as won nothing in his career bar division 3, once. He's a loser, whats stupid about that eh. Why do you completely ignore his first spell here? A useless manager would not have won League 1 at the first attempt, then have us finish 5th in our first season back in the Championship. Yes the run last season was horrible, but one bad run doesn't make a bad manager, the same way that one good run doesn't make a good manager. Pearson has his flaws, but he's done a lot of good for the club, much of which you've conveniently ignored, and doesn't deserve to be called useless.
Corky Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 Yes but is Pearson a winner ? remember that you have to win things to be called a winner. You are the one who is talking about this winner nonsense No one brought it up before you.
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 Yes but is Pearson a winner ? remember that you have to win things to be called a winner. What the hell do you expect? I suppose you want a manager to come in and win the league at the first attempt, have us get into the premiership and come 6th, then win the league the year after, Do the treble by 2017. So basically the only manager that is fit for purpose is one that comes in and wins the league at the first strike. Not one that builds for the future? Ok then, Let's hear you out. Name the manager that we could actually get, that is going to get us promoted at the first attempt, then keep us in the premier league. If you say RDM I will Fvcking cry. Some of the people on here never cease to amaze me. "Not a winner" what a joke. On that basis, Every manager in this division is "Not a winner" and 3/4 of the managers in the premiership are "Not winners"
AnotherShitSeason Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 BNET's great isn't he folks! Another visionary! I applaud his bravery & wisdom in the face of adversity.
indierich06 Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 Stan, l was being kind to you, l thought that post of yours made you sound like a right wet twat, but then you go and say my opinion is stupid, ah well, as long as you are happy. Well what else do you expect people to think? How can he be useless when we're sitting in third and have only lost two games all season so far? How can he be useless when he's the only manager in ten years to get us into the championship playoffs - something he's done twice? How can he be useless when he won league one at the first attempt? You might not like him, fair enough, you might not think he'll get us promoted - also fair enough. But to call him useless when it's obviously not true IS stupid.
indierich06 Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 Yes but is Pearson a winner ? remember that you have to win things to be called a winner. Yes, he won League One.
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 Well what else do you expect people to think? How can he be useless when we're sitting in third and have only lost two games all season so far? How can he be useless when he's the only manager in ten years to get us into the championship playoffs - something he's done twice? How can he be useless when he won league one at the first attempt? You might not like him, fair enough, you might not think he'll get us promoted - also fair enough. But to call him useless when it's obviously not true IS stupid. Especially as he has done it without spending, Everytime he has been here, he has cut costs. Shipping out the championship earners for cheap equivalents! then doing well!!
Monsell1976 Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 What the hell do you expect? I suppose you want a manager to come in and win the league at the first attempt, have us get into the premiership and come 6th, then win the league the year after, Do the treble by 2017. So basically the only manager that is fit for purpose is one that comes in and wins the league at the first strike. Not one that builds for the future? Ok then, Let's hear you out. Name the manager that we could actually get, that is going to get us promoted at the first attempt, then keep us in the premier league. If you say RDM I will Fvcking cry. Some of the people on here never cease to amaze me. "Not a winner" what a joke. On that basis, Every manager in this division is "Not a winner" and 3/4 of the managers in the premiership are "Not winners" I think bnet is very animated in the point he's getting across, I can see what he's getting at regarding Pearson.I don't agree that Pearson is shit, but just average, and bnet saying he's not a winner, he has a point. Pearson has the potential to be a promotion winning manager but keeps falling just short, and fans are getting frustrated by the short comings. Pearson has had the team playing some out standing football at times, but when things are not going our way is where he falls down for me, reverting to negative football, I.e long ball etc. What I think is by the end of this season Pearson has been around the club for around 5 years, and yes he got us out of the lowest league in our history, but he can't expect to live off that. I believe he has had the time and money to get us promoted, and if he falls short again this season, all the emotion should be took out of it and except after 5 years he isn't going to get us promoted. The remit of his last 3 years was promotion, and if he doesn't get us promoted, and after a very expensive contract I wouldn't see it value for money. Someone has stated who would we want as a replacement, that's a hard one, as nobody currently out of work comes to mind, but for the sort of money the manager is on, I am confident that we could attract a talented young manager with fresh ideas, or one that has been there and done it, as Pearson isn't the only manager out there. All this said, and with all my reservations about the manager, we have had a good start and hopefully he can turn the promise he's shown in the past and take it that stage further, and even if we do crash like last season, I would let him see the season out, and if there is no promotion say thank you and goodbye to him.
hackneyfox Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 Especially as he has done it without spending, Everytime he has been here, he has cut costs. Shipping out the championship earners for cheap equivalents! then doing well!! Without spending? I hadn't realised all those player brought in over the last 2 few seasons were free. He's had more money to spen than the majority of managers in this division. He may not have bought Schmeichel or Nugent but he's happy enough to have them in the squad.
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 in the last 2 seasons, We have paid for 5 players. Coming to a grand total of £6m, We have sold 3.6m worth. Grand total of £2.4m loss on transfers. Beckford and danns were on £60,000 per week between them alone £3,120,000 a year. As well as the rest. So in terms of 'spending' (Wages/transfer) No.. He has not spent, At all. he has cut costs. The reason he HAD to cut costs, is FFP, So for somebody to get us into the position we currently hold, Not having much choice on who stays at the club (We needed to cut the high earners out full stop) I would say there are VERY FEW managers with those qualities to be able to achieve what he has. So yes. 'without spending' 'Spending' is not only transfers. So I'll think you will find he has about as much as anybody in this division, certainly not a vast sum more.
Monsell1976 Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 Without spending? I hadn't realised all those player brought in over the last 2 few seasons were free. He's had more money to spen than the majority of managers in this division. He may not have bought Schmeichel or Nugent but he's happy enough to have them in the squad. To be fair your right, barring this summer he has been backed financially, and inherited some good championship players, and some of his previous players he had at the club, so if he didn't achieve the goals set out, he cannot be defended by saying he wasn't given the funds.
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 in the last 2 seasons, We have paid for 5 players. Coming to a grand total of £6m, We have sold 4.6m worth. Grand total of £1.4m loss on transfers. (Around that figure) Beckford and danns were on £60,000 per week alone £3,120,000 a year. As well as the rest. (Bamba, Danns, St leger (Loan) wellens, gallagher, Pantsil, Peltier (on a vast sum apparantly) Vassel.. Need I go on? So in terms of 'spending' (Wages/transfer) No.. He has not spent, At all. he has cut costs. The reason he HAD to cut costs, is FFP, So for somebody to get us into the position we currently hold, Not having much choice on who stays at the club (We needed to cut the high earners out full stop) I would say there are VERY FEW managers with those qualities to be able to achieve what he has. So yes. 'without spending' 'Spending' is not only transfers. So I'll think you will find he has about as much as anybody in this division, certainly not a vast sum more.
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 To be fair your right, barring this summer he has been backed financially, and inherited some good championship players, and some of his previous players he had at the club, so if he didn't achieve the goals set out, he cannot be defended by saying he wasn't given the funds. Wow, Monsell where have you been? we paid around 6m in 2 seasons... sold 4.6m worth of players.. in 2 seasons on transfers we have lost 1.5m average and saved around £5-6m on wages!!! Madness.. No wonder the first 12 months of business are the hardest, people do not do their sums.. we have put more back into the pot than we have taken out, and we have become stronger, better spirited. and more importantly have vast potential. To say he had financial backing is absolutely ludicrous, He had financial crippling since he took over from SGE.
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 Wow, Monsell where have you been? we paid around 6m in 2 seasons... sold 4.6m worth of players.. in 2 seasons on transfers we have lost 1.5m average and saved around £5-10m on wages!!! Madness.. No wonder the first 12 months of business are the hardest, people do not do their sums.. we have put more back into the pot than we have taken out, and we have become stronger, better spirited. and more importantly have vast potential. To say he had financial backing is absolutely ludicrous, He had financial crippling since he took over from SGE. Just to work this out, High earners, that pearson shipped out. for the sake of this post I will just put their speculated wages as a rough guide. Mills - 20k PW Beckford - 30k PW Danns - 30k PW Wellens - 15k PW Paintsil 30k PW Bamba - 10-15k PW Vassel - 20-25k PW -------------------------------- 160k Per week average... (could be slightly more or less) £7.5-8.5m a year in wages shipped out. As well as a few transfer fees. then we got BETTER, cheaper players, on less wages, For only a small sum less than we made from player sales! without the saving on those wages alone!!! He would of sold them anyway as they were overpaid and overrated, but if he wanted to keep them, he didnt have a choice!!
BNET Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 Why do you completely ignore his first spell here? A useless manager would not have won League 1 at the first attempt, then have us finish 5th in our first season back in the Championship. Yes the run last season was horrible, but one bad run doesn't make a bad manager, the same way that one good run doesn't make a good manager. Pearson has his flaws, but he's done a lot of good for the club, much of which you've conveniently ignored, and doesn't deserve to be called useless. Its my opinion that he is useless, but it is a fact that he's not a winner. You can argue with one but not the other.
BNET Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 You are the one who is talking about this winner nonsense No one brought it up before you. Winning is nonsense then, well in that case you've got your ideal manager.
BNET Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 What the hell do you expect? I suppose you want a manager to come in and win the league at the first attempt, have us get into the premiership and come 6th, then win the league the year after, Do the treble by 2017. So basically the only manager that is fit for purpose is one that comes in and wins the league at the first strike. Not one that builds for the future? Ok then, Let's hear you out. Name the manager that we could actually get, that is going to get us promoted at the first attempt, then keep us in the premier league. If you say RDM I will Fvcking cry. Some of the people on here never cease to amaze me. "Not a winner" what a joke. On that basis, Every manager in this division is "Not a winner" and 3/4 of the managers in the premiership are "Not winners" I said he's not a winner, am l wrong ? l never offered you an alternative, life is full of winners and losers, Pearson is the latter.
BNET Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 BNET's great isn't he folks! Another visionary! I applaud his bravery & wisdom in the face of adversity. ???????
BNET Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 in the last 2 seasons, We have paid for 5 players. Coming to a grand total of £6m, We have sold 3.6m worth. Grand total of £2.4m loss on transfers. Beckford and danns were on £60,000 per week alone £3,120,000 a year. As well as the rest. So in terms of 'spending' (Wages/transfer) No.. He has not spent, At all. he has cut costs. The reason he HAD to cut costs, is FFP, So for somebody to get us into the position we currently hold, Not having much choice on who stays at the club (We needed to cut the high earners out full stop) I would say there are VERY FEW managers with those qualities to be able to achieve what he has. So yes. 'without spending' 'Spending' is not only transfers. So I'll think you will find he has about as much as anybody in this division, certainly not a vast sum more. But he's not a winner, as much as you put a smoke screen up, under neath he is what he is.
Unabomber Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 ^ hates Pearson and can't multi-quote, what a poster.
BNET Posted 15 October 2013 Posted 15 October 2013 ^ hates Pearson and can't multi-quote, what a poster. I don't hate him, and you're a twat.
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