purpleronnie Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/219967/stats-race-cjs-2010.pdf Is that the same one you posted before showing black people being targetted by police (stop and search for instance) and the criminalising of communities with higher black/asian numbers that would produce a disproportionate percentage of non white inmates.
I am Rod Hull Posted 3 November 2013 Author Posted 3 November 2013 Is that the same one you posted before showing black people being targetted by police (stop and search for instance) and the criminalising of communities with higher black/asian numbers that would produce a disproportionate percentage of non white inmates. The highest % of violent crime is black on black
Vacamion Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 I see a lot of the stats are based on "self declared ethnicity". I always tell any forms or questionnaires that ask for my ethnicity that I refuse to disclose it. Screw them and their divisive pigeonholing....
purpleronnie Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 The highest % of violent crime is black on black Yep and no surprise that police target communities that have high percentage of black people then that will happen. Crime statistics have to be approached with extreme caution, because it is very easy to leap to conclusions which are not justified by the figures.
Strokes Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 I see a lot of the stats are based on "self declared ethnicity". I always tell any forms or questionnaires that ask for my ethnicity that I refuse to disclose it. Screw them and their divisive pigeonholing.... Odd, sounds like you are almost ashamed of it.
I am Rod Hull Posted 3 November 2013 Author Posted 3 November 2013 Just post the official stats. Don't make me spend ages looking for them, I've been on the ONS before and it's annoying trying to find anything. EDIT: May I also say I seriously disapprove of the pleasure this seems to be giving you. You genuinely believe that being white makes you superior to other people. Absolutely disgusting. Do you think it gives me pleasure? WOW! Yep and no surprise that police target communities that have high percentage of black people then that will happen. Crime statistics have to be approached with extreme caution, because it is very easy to leap to conclusions which are not justified by the figures. Sprinkling non existent sugar on official stats will not make it taste any better
Vacamion Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 Odd, sounds like you are almost ashamed of it. Nope. Incorrect. It's skin deep and it shouldn't make a difference in how anyone treats me or deals with me or records details about me.
sdb Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 A post within 8 minutes!? the video is 20 minutes long I'm familiar with the themes of the speech!!
Harry - LCFC Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 Do you think it gives me pleasure? WOW! The continued use of smiley faces would indicate that it does.
purpleronnie Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 Do you think it gives me pleasure? WOW! Sprinkling non existent sugar on official stats will not make it taste any better You don't think there are facts proving police target more blacks for such things like stop and search?
Rincewind Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 Black people are more likely to be stopped and searched. In times of inflation and bad times there is always a scapegoat. Modern History has shown us this. There will also be a great orater who is capable of convincing some who that scapegoat should be. I believe Man has learnt from mistakes and has enough humanity not to be fooled again.
I am Rod Hull Posted 3 November 2013 Author Posted 3 November 2013 You don't think there are facts proving police target more blacks for such things like stop and search? Why do they target them more? JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ! +1`d you by mistake.... FFS
Jimothy Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 Look at the official gov stats on violent crime and % of ethnicity, my friend
purpleronnie Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 Why do they target them more? JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ! +1`d you by mistake.... FFS But surely you see the correlation, if more white people were searched then it would completely change the ratio and the statistics. Surely you see the bigger picture.
I am Rod Hull Posted 3 November 2013 Author Posted 3 November 2013 Black people are more likely to be stopped and searched. In times of inflation and bad times there is always a scapegoat. Modern History has shown us this. There will also be a great orater who is capable of convincing some who that scapegoat should be. I believe Man has learnt from mistakes and has enough humanity not to be fooled again. Does your TV only get channel 4?
I am Rod Hull Posted 3 November 2013 Author Posted 3 November 2013 But surely you see the correlation, if more white people were searched then it would completely change the ratio and the statistics. Surely you see the bigger picture. If more white people carried knifes and joined gangs then they would be searched more..
Strokes Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 But surely you see the correlation, if more white people were searched then it would completely change the ratio and the statistics. Surely you see the bigger picture. But why blacks and not other ethnicities?
Rincewind Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 Does your TV only get channel 4? I do not see the connection.
ADK Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 I'm not sure I buy the "black people are more likely to be stopped and searched" argument for increased violent crime amongst blacks. It's actually a bit absurd when you find the statistics are more than conclusive, this isn't just a few percent difference that could be explained away by some sort of confirmation bias. The bullet ridden and stabbed bodies are a bit of a problem too. It's obvious to me there is a cultural problem that makes young black people, especially those in poorer areas, more vulnerable to being drawn into lives of crime. It is actually glorified in a lot of rap music and other popular media.
purpleronnie Posted 3 November 2013 Posted 3 November 2013 If more white people carried knifes and joined gangs then they would be searched more.. if they aren't being searched how would we know? but I've had this discussion with you before, you've obviously made your mind up about it. so i'll leave it there. sad.
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