Babylon Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 He said he likes to stand........ Unless a sitter is amongst 100 standers and wants them all to sit down I would not expect a sitter to move to accommodate a stander. He also said he was sat in an area that everyone else was sat down in, and one plank decided to just stand up and inconvenience them all.
AndWhat? Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 He also said he was sat in an area that everyone else was sat down in, and one plank decided to just stand up and inconvenience them all. I'm not defending the person for standing in front of people. I just don't understand why someone who likes to stand would chose to sit when they have plenty of places to stand. Just like I don't understand why people would chose to stand around a bunch if people sitting......
Monsell1976 Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 I love standing at away matches, I am only 37 but due to a disability from the big c, I now find it very hard to stand for the full game, and when I do, boy do I suffer. I can see both sides, for those who don't want to stand, or like myself can't stand for long periods,it could be a pain if others stand around them, but on the other hand I can more than see the attraction to standing especially away. I am sure more could be done by city, I cannot see it being that difficult to hold back lower seats, for those who cannot or choose not to stand, and if it was common knowledge you could request these seats, people would ask, and then the upper seats are for the younger fitter fans, therefore nobody is forced to stand, or have their view spoilt. All this said when I do go away, which is quite a bit, I normally end up having to stand, but I can't moan, just grit my teeth, as the young fit me( in my head), still loves the atmosphere. Anyway on row 4 at stoke so I think I can say I will more than likely be sitting tommorow.
SmelliottLcfc Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 Standing makes you a BIG club OMG, and they say the RL caller was a troll. I rest my case. im just saying all the big club stand when at away games. Standing creates atmosphere which will spur on the team. if you going to be a boring old man and sit down just dont go
Larry_LCFC Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 no need to get mouthy. im just saying all the big club stand when at away games. Standing creates atmosphere which will spur on the team. if you going to be a boring old man and sit down just dont go No need to get mouthy? How fvcking old are you, 12? Your narrow minded attitude is worrying. Jesus Christ.
Babylon Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 I am sure more could be done by city, I cannot see it being that difficult to hold back lower seats, for those who cannot or choose not to stand, and if it was common knowledge you could request these seats, people would ask, and then the upper seats are for the younger fitter fans, therefore nobody is forced to stand, or have their view spoilt. Whilst it would be useful, I don't think they could do it as it would get itself into trouble with the other team and possibly the league. It would be seen as promoting standing in non standing grounds.
Guest Bilo Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 Some of you really do make me cringe. Its your way or no way. Why should away games just be standing? Can you not sing when your sitting down? If I pay £30 for a seat, i'm entitled to sit in it without some disabled telling me otherwise. As for the poster who made the comment about not selling tickets to people who want to sit, what a moron you are. Any need? Also, everybody pays £30. They're paying £30 for the game, not for the privilege of sitting on a seat that cost less than the ticket.
Babylon Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 no need to get mouthy. im just saying all the big club stand when at away games. Standing creates atmosphere which will spur on the team. if you going to be a boring old man and sit down just dont go Good lord, grow up.
martyn Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 no need to get mouthy. im just saying all the big club stand when at away games. Standing creates atmosphere which will spur on the team. if you going to be a boring old man and sit down just dont go If you are so "against modern football" like your avatar suggests, why dont you practice what you preach and dont fuel it with ticket money? Away ends are not exclusively for standers, its not hard to grasp.
Guest Bilo Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 He said he likes to stand........ Unless a sitter is amongst 100 standers and wants them all to sit down I would not expect a sitter to move to accommodate a stander. Sensible approach. It's only the tiny minority who are saying sitters should move/not go to away games, most of the standers favour co-existence.
Larry_LCFC Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 Any need? Also, everybody pays £30. They're paying £30 for the game, not for the privilege of sitting on a seat that cost less than the ticket. Is there any need for any of this bullshit? People that cannot accept and respect others preference to sit down are clearly lacking any intelligence at all. I think you will find when you book a ticket for a match, you are booking a numbered seat. Not a standing space. I pay my money, I choose to watch it in comfort sitting down.
Harry - LCFC Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 No, they really aren't. The person sitting down is doing nothing wrong, the person standing is. It's a very simple concept that people don't seem to grasp. What is stopping standers from not watching the game the way they want, are the current laws of the game and ground regulations. Not people sitting down in line with those regulations. I think you're totally wrong to say that sitters are always in the right although I would certainly agree that standers can be in the wrong at times. If indeed people who sit can never be in the wrong this would imply the whole of the back row may sit while everyone else is expected to do the same - they have no say in how they watch the game. This is unfair as people have the right to watch the game how they want to. Of course this can achieved very easily. If people are respectful of others and don't sit at the back and don't stand at the front then the entire away end can have their preferences satisfied. If however we take your view that sitters can do no wrong (and thus sit where they like) this leaves the possibility that the majority will be unhappy. I think that's pretty conclusive personally, win-win or win-lose.
SmelliottLcfc Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 If you are so "against modern football" like your avatar suggests, why dont you practice what you preach and dont fuel it with ticket money? Away ends are not exclusively for standers, its not hard to grasp. I am against modern football. I do not agree with high ticket prices, all seater stadiums, the way some police treat fans and how sky sports have taken fans away from the game. I have no need to campaign against ticket prices because they arnt to bad at most grounds.
Larry_LCFC Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 I think you're totally wrong to say that sitters are always in the right although I would certainly agree that standers can be in the wrong at times. If indeed people who sit can never be in the wrong this would imply the whole of the back row may sit while everyone else is expected to do the same - they have no say in how they watch the game. This is unfair as people have the right to watch the game how they want to. Of course this can achieved very easily. If people are respectful of others and don't sit at the back and don't stand at the front then the entire away end can have their preferences satisfied. If however we take your view that sitters can do no wrong (and thus sit where they like) leaves the possibility that the majority will be unhappy. I think that's pretty conclusive personally, win-win or win-lose. The shittest view will be in the bottom rows. So basically what you propose is anyone who wants to sit has to take the crap view at the bottom, and the standers get the top rows. Brilliant.
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 im just saying all the big club stand when at away games. Standing creates atmosphere which will spur on the team. if you going to be a boring old man and sit down just dont go I tell you something sonny I would have never have taken my kids to ANY matches home or away in the old stlye grounds. You didn't even know what the shit holes some grounds where and when the cages when up that was it for me. We have much better stadium to enjoy games in, the ideal solution is still to be found but would never be with your apporch. And if seating is the issue why is it state side you can drink shorts/cocktails IN the stadium, all sweaters mate
SmelliottLcfc Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 I tell you something sonny I would have never have taken my kids to ANY matches home or away in the old stlye grounds. You didn't even know what the shit holes some grounds where and when the cages when up that was it for me. We have much better stadium to enjoy games in, the ideal solution is still to be found but would never be with your apporch. And if seating is the issue why is it state side you can drink shorts/cocktails IN the stadium, all sweaters mate I agree with you in many ways, some of the states that some grounds were in were appalling which made them very unsafe! im just saying standing up does increase the atmosphere which will encourage the team. There should be sections of just standing in the ground, so that the people that want to just stand can go there
Dan Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 Whole thread shows more evidence of just how ridiculous the rules really are.
Larry_LCFC Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 I agree with you in many ways, some of the states that some grounds were in were appalling which made them very unsafe! im just saying standing up does increase the atmosphere which will encourage the team. There should be sections of just standing in the ground, so that the people that want to just stand can go there Why does standing increase the atmosphere. I don't understand why people say that. Can you not chant when your sat down?
SmelliottLcfc Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 Why does standing increase the atmosphere. I don't understand why people say that. Can you not chant when your sat down? Just look at the evidence. Who has the best atmosphere home and away. Leeds united. Do any of them sit down? no. So the more standing the more sing. Iv been nearly all away games this season and the people that sit rarely sing
Harry - LCFC Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 The shittest view will be in the bottom rows. So basically what you propose is anyone who wants to sit has to take the crap view at the bottom, and the standers get the top rows. Brilliant. Yes it's unfair but but it'd also be unfair if everyone stood up or if everyone sat down. There will always be someone who has to put up with that view unfortunately. Their preference is irrelevant really. Why does standing increase the atmosphere. I don't understand why people say that. Can you not chant when your sat down? Do you stand up to celebrate a goal? Notice how the entire stadium does the same. Standing up is the natural body position when one is excited, sitting is a more relaxed posture. If you want to sing and shout in a somewhat aggressive manner then it's only natural to stand up while doing so.
Guest Bilo Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 Is there any need for any of this bullshit? People that cannot accept and respect others preference to sit down are clearly lacking any intelligence at all. I think you will find when you book a ticket for a match, you are booking a numbered seat. Not a standing space. I pay my money, I choose to watch it in comfort sitting down. You choose to watch it in comfort sitting down, others choose to watch it standing up. That doesn't make the latter '******,' if of course you favour the terminology of the playground, nor does it make them any less intelligent than you. I'm not even sure what your salient point is, are you suggesting fans who stand should stay at home? That'd enrich away games no end. The fact is that there exists a huge demand for standing among a diverse range of fans. To dismiss those fans who prefer to stand as unintelligent, especially when a fair number of them could frankly wipe the floor with you intellectually, is laughable. Most of the considered and mature standers are using the language of compromise and co-existence. It's up to the fans to make this happen until the authorities see sense and introduce safe standing. These are not the people causing arguments, it's the self-centred advocates of both positions doing that. As for your argument that you are booking a seat for an event, take a look at Premier League games where tickets can cost twice as much as they do in the FLC. Are you suggesting the swathes of standing fans should be thrown out, are being shortchanged or should stop attending?
Simmo86 Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 Is there any need for any of this bullshit? People that cannot accept and respect others preference to sit down are clearly lacking any intelligence at all. I think you will find when you book a ticket for a match, you are booking a numbered seat. Not a standing space. I pay my money, I choose to watch it in comfort sitting down. Not comfortable though is it? The reason I stand is because it isn't comfortable sitting at a football ground. Crappy plastic seat and cramped legs..no thanks.
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 Do you stand up to celebrate a goal? Notice how they entire stadium does the same. so. Are we includeing penalties ? Exit stage right
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 I like to stand at games but if everyone around choses to sit then I follow suit. What does annoy me is when everyone else is stood in front of you yet someone behind insists on sitting and moans to you all game about not being able to see. This happened to me last season at Wednesday away. I was about 3/4 of the way up and almost the entire stand was stood. Yet this middle aged bloke kept persisting on moaning to myself and group of friends about him not being able to see and reluctantly standing. I wasn't going to sacrifice my view of the game and there was no way the stewards we going to make the 20 rows in front sit down so this stubbornness doesn't help. You don't pay all that money for the cheap plastic seat but for being able to watch the spectacle, and it's unreasonable for a person either way to go against what the majority is doing around.
Dan Posted 3 January 2014 Posted 3 January 2014 Whole thread shows more evidence of just how ridiculous the rules really are.
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