Bluetintedspecs Posted 2 February 2014 Posted 2 February 2014 It doesnt need to be pressure on both. If one of them (QPR) get clear, the others may well give up and be happy with the play offs. What we don't want is TWO sides believing they can still catch us. Thats the danger. Want me to draw you a picture buddy? Ha ha ha ha , I bet that will involve lots of stick men? You never heard of the possibility of 1 team pulling away and the others capitulating.........oh wait last season! Pressure does strange things bud, we seem to be coping and are better equipped this year to date. So I will always want those behind us to lose points to the maximum and in every case where they are playing each other a draw .
crisp packet Posted 2 February 2014 Posted 2 February 2014 I want to win the league... By qpr and Burnley drawing I'd say down to reading are playing for second spot ? There only nine points behind qpr? We just need to keep winning!
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 February 2014 Posted 2 February 2014 Ha ha ha ha , I bet that will involve lots of stick men? You never heard of the possibility of 1 team pulling away and the others capitulating.........oh wait last season! Pressure does strange things bud, we seem to be coping and are better equipped this year to date. So I will always want those behind us to lose points to the maximum and in every case where they are playing each other a draw . Reminds me of that Clough quote: Brian, what do you say to someone who disagrees with you? Clough...'we get together and get down to it for twenty minutes, then both agree that I was right'. That'd be you and I over a beer my friend...
Bluetintedspecs Posted 2 February 2014 Posted 2 February 2014 Reminds me of that Clough quote: Brian, what do you say to someone who disagrees with you? Clough...'we get together and get down to it for twenty minutes, then both agree that I was right'. That'd be you and I over a beer my friend... I very much doubt it, I will enjoy the pint though One of those where we'll have to agree to disagree pal!
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 2 February 2014 Posted 2 February 2014 I very much doubt it, I will enjoy the pint though One of those where we'll have to agree to disagree pal!You should both "Draw" this to a close now
Bluetintedspecs Posted 2 February 2014 Posted 2 February 2014 You should both "Draw" this to a close now Col and I both like a bit of banter Bob
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 February 2014 Posted 2 February 2014 You should both "Draw" this to a close now Stalemate buddy
Captain... Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 Col, I'm going to put it this way, Burnley drawing or losing was the difference between them having 13 or 14 points, if they had 13 points they would need 5 wins more than us to overtake us. Now they have 14 points they still need 5 more wins to overtake us. That one point makes very little difference to Burnley's pursuit of us. QPR on the other hand 10 points behind needs 4 wins to overtake, 8 points, had they won, means they would need only 3 wins. The draw was was the best result for us, and I will be hoping for a draw when Derby play QPR or Burnley. 1 point means fvck all when you're trying to chase down a big gap winning is a habit and it is 3 times better than draw, the less our rivals win the better.
fuchsntf Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 I still don't get how that could have been the perfect result. There are two automatic promotion spots with three teams still currently vying for them. Whilst I doubt either will catch us, with how we are playing, it would have been better for QPR to have gotten Burnley pretty much out the race. Two into two goes. Three into two don't. Am I missing summat here? YES....BELIEF.
MajorDanby Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 It's almost 4am and I'm stuck at work - thanks National Grid; so here's my two pennyworth: Firstly, we should be aiming to win this thing, rather than finishing as runners up. Secondly I think that although a QPR win would have left Burnley that little bit further behind us, you can't deny that more pressure has the potential to equal poorer performances. QPR being that little bit closer to us could start to play mind games on us. At least this way we have that double digit gap over anyone else. The difference between 10 and 9 points (or 10 and 8 in this case) may not sound a lot but mentally I think it is. Plus I think if Burnley have the ability to make up 13 points on us they could probably also make up 14
The Year Of The Fox Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 I'm still scared. I daren't believe when sober
lancyclaret Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 After watching that. I hope Burnley don't get promoted just for the pure face we can sign Trippier and Ings. I am sure Leicester will win the title but I think you can forget about signing Ings or Trippier - both will be going to decent Premier League teams NOT a team likely to be struggling to stay up (Cardiff. Hull. Palace). Liverpool are monitoring Ings while Newcastle have been after Trippier for ages. £8 million plus for Ings (he is better than Rhodes or Austin) - we got £7 million for Rodriguez, £6 million for Steve Fletcher, £4 million for Austin (injury history kept fee lowish). I can see Leicester being a yo-yo team - a bit like West Brom. Historicallly, you have never finished that many seasons in the top half of the top division. If you stay up for 2/3 seasons, you will have done well.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 I am sure Leicester will win the title but I think you can forget about signing Ings or Trippier - both will be going to decent Premier League teams NOT a team likely to be struggling to stay up (Cardiff. Hull. Palace). Liverpool are monitoring Ings while Newcastle have been after Trippier for ages. £8 million plus for Ings (he is better than Rhodes or Austin) - we got £7 million for Rodriguez, £6 million for Steve Fletcher, £4 million for Austin (injury history kept fee lowish). I can see Leicester being a yo-yo team - a bit like West Brom. Historicallly, you have never finished that many seasons in the top half of the top division. If you stay up for 2/3 seasons, you will have done well. Don't underestimate Pearson he has a good eye for talent and the players he wants.I think he will build a solid and honest Premier League side that will punch above there weight.
Captain... Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 Don't underestimate Pearson he has a good eye for talent and the players he wants.I think he will build a solid and honest Premier League side that will punch above there weight. He also won't be held to ransom over transfer fees. I said it another thread, Pearson's biggest test will be the transfer window should we get promoted, we have such a solid squad that there aren't any clear weak links that need replacing, but then there aren't any clear premiership players either. We will need to strengthen and won't be able to give new players the luxury of a season to bed in, but our strength is in the number of good partnerships we have across the team. Replacing James, for example, with a better player, doesn't mean they will have a better partnership with Drinkwater. I doubt he would go for Ings or Trippier, probably too much competition for their signatures and Burnley won't let them go cheap.
foxfanazer Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 I agree CPF Do people think Pearson will target top end championship players, steady premier league players, overseas signings (risky) or a mixture of the lot?
Happy Fox Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 I agree CPF Do people think Pearson will target top end championship players, steady premier league players, overseas signings (risky) or a mixture of the lot? Well their are rumours and I stress rumours that the Thais are willing to spend big money on transfers somewhere in the region of £50m, with Walsh he scouted Drogba for Chelsea when he was their chief scout so I can see us targeting some young national team talents that will compliment our young english players.
Soar Fox Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 Well their are rumours and I stress rumours that the Thais are willing to spend big money on transfers somewhere in the region of £50m, with Walsh he scouted Drogba for Chelsea when he was their chief scout so I can see us targeting some young national team talents that will compliment our young english players. I've heard the same thing, if we do get promotion the owners are going to spend big to make sure we aren't in a relegation battle. One name I've heard is Edin Džeko.
foxfanazer Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 I've heard the same thing, if we do get promotion the owners are going to spend big to make sure we aren't in a relegation battle. One name I've heard is Edin Džeko. That's mental!
Captain... Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 I could see the owners willing to back NP, I just can't see NP spending 50 million, I think in part he will believe the squad to be mainly good enough, Kasper potentially leaving could be a blessing in disguise and allow us to bring in an established premiership keeper. Konchesky would probably the only first team player I would say we need to replace, but then his prem experience could be invaluable. I just don't know what Pearson would do, and I worry that Pearson isn't so sure himself, I'm certain he won't do a Holloway and sign 13 new players in the summer. I suspect NP would want to try and continue with the squad he is building with 2-3 quality additions, if that is failing by Christmas then I could see the owners pulling the trigger and doing a QPR.
Haydos Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 It doesnt need to be pressure on both. If one of them (QPR) get clear, the others may well give up and be happy with the play offs. What we don't want is TWO sides believing they can still catch us. Thats the danger. Want me to draw you a picture buddy? Again, need to be right. I'm not stalking btw, just noticed 2 posts quite quickly where you seem to insist people see it your way. It's not objective. Having QPR and Burnley scrap could be better in the long term. On eof them could fade but we don't know which yet so like you said in the other thread, it's all pointless conjecture.
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 Quite right, Haydos Logically, surely a draw was the best outcome - meaning only 2 points were shared from the game rather than 3 awarded to one. No one gains ground on us, equilibrium is maintained
The Doctor Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 It doesnt need to be pressure on both. If one of them (QPR) get clear, the others may well give up and be happy with the play offs. What we don't want is TWO sides believing they can still catch us. Thats the danger. Want me to draw you a picture buddy? It doesn't matter how many sides believe they can catch us, what we want is as bigger gap as possible over the chasing pack: that's better served by teams drawing than winning. Neither QPR or Burnley gained ground or kept pace with us as a result of drawing: the perfect result for us, because we've got ourselves a bigger lead.
Socks Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 3rd Place will only ever catch us if we have a major fvcking malfunction, and i don't think it will happen, if it does then i don't think will last long but if Watford and Forest both beat us then it could all go wrong so quick... so a draw is the best result rather than QPR picking up points on us
Babylon Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 I still don't get how that could have been the perfect result. There are two automatic promotion spots with three teams still currently vying for them. Whilst I doubt either will catch us, with how we are playing, it would have been better for QPR to have gotten Burnley pretty much out the race. Two into two goes. Three into two don't. Am I missing summat here? Yes... that even had Burnley lost, they would only be 1 point worse off from our total... so hardly "out of the race". A draw serves two purposes, it help us in our cause to be champions, and stops Burnley from picking up three points. Thus helping the cause for automatic promotion. So with those to purposes in mind, it was the perfect result. If you don't care about the title, then no it wasn't.
Guest Col city fan Posted 3 February 2014 Posted 3 February 2014 Again, need to be right. I'm not stalking btw, just noticed 2 posts quite quickly where you seem to insist people see it your way. It's not objective. Having QPR and Burnley scrap could be better in the long term. On eof them could fade but we don't know which yet so like you said in the other thread, it's all pointless conjecture. I'm fighting my corner mate, like you do. On this debate I'm in the minority so it will appear that I'm arguing with many who, in their own way, are making their own argument. Of course I will continue to debate, like many people do in many threads. If I believed I was wrong, I'd say so. Eg. See 'Dear Nigel' thread.
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