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Bert

A Blessing In Disguise?

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This isn't me getting ahead of myself.

But does anyone think losing to Watford was a blessing in disguise?

We weren't guaranteed to have beat palace had we have got there and would we have been ready for the Prem last season?

We've had the chance to learn from our mistakes and come back as a stronger unit, playing better football with a settled squad that is being built for the premiership.

I know there's still a long way to go but I'll even admit things are looking promising for us.

Or can this not be answered until May and even further on, this time next year?

Posted

This isn't me getting ahead of myself.

But does anyone think losing to Watford was a blessing in disguise?

We weren't guaranteed to have beat palace had we have got there and would we have been ready for the Prem last season?

We've had the chance to learn from our mistakes and come back as a stronger unit, playing better football with a settled squad that is being built for the premiership.

I know there's still a long way to go but I'll even admit things are looking promising for us.

Or can this not be answered until May and even further on, this time next year?

Yes, I believe so. Same goes to our League 1 relegation. Humungous blessing that was.
Posted

I thought it was a bit of a travesty that we were even in the play-offs if I'm honest - now in fairness, I'm not sure we'd have been absolutely dicked on in the Premier League as we've made some genuine strides forward this year without even really spending money so I can imagine we'd have improved even more should we have gone up.

 

Although, I think last years ending has made Pearson get his act together. I've been a huge fan of Pearson but even I thought something seemed completely off with him last season towards the end. I think he's made some changes to his own game that we might've not seen had we have gone up.

 

It was typical of Leicester to lose in the manner we did, and this whole season was a huge test of character to the squad and so far, they're passing with flying colours.

 

On our day last season we'd hit levels that in my opinion, no-one in our division could've matched and that's what always gave me hope with Pearson and this group of players, there's always been potential.

 

So I thank Top and Vichai for realising this and giving Pearson and that group of players more time, in an era when it's fashionable to rip it all up and start again. We as a club are reaping the rewards for stability and long-term planning and it's excellent watching it all unravel in front of us.

 

A blessing in disguise? Quite possibly. I think in the long-term it'll do us more good than bad. Because if we go up this year and back Pearson in the Premier League, then I am absolutely confident we will stay up.

Posted

As things currently stand I'd have to say yes, I don't think we were near enough prepared for the Premiership and it proved a very valuable learning curve for a good majority of our squad based on this seasons showing.

Posted

Yes, I believe so. Same goes to our League 1 relegation. Humungous blessing that was.

 

People always say this but never seem to come up with a good reason why.

 

That was 6 years ago, our fortunes have taken a while to recover. It's not like we shot through the leagues and now sit midtable in the Prem. In 6 years we could have been in the Premiership already had we not gone down. We certainly wouldn't still have Holloway if that's what you're thinking.

 

As for last season, I don't think we'll ever be able to answer that question. Who knows how things would have turned out if we'd have scraped through the play-offs and gone up last season? We could be having a great season in the top flight or rooted to the bottom.

 

I just know that it will be a footnote on our history if we go up this season. It was horrible at the time but the memories are fading fast!

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People always say this but never seem to come up with a good reason why.

 

That was 6 years ago, our fortunes have taken a while to recover. It's not like we shot through the leagues and now sit midtable in the Prem. In 6 years we could have been in the Premiership already had we not gone down. We certainly wouldn't still have Holloway if that's what you're thinking.

 

As for last season, I don't think we'll ever be able to answer that question. Who knows how things would have turned out if we'd have scraped through the play-offs and gone up last season? We could be having a great season in the top flight or rooted to the bottom.

 

I just know that it will be a footnote on our history if we go up this season. It was horrible at the time but the memories are fading fast!

 

Relegation was what kicked our arses into gear - sadly we managed to piss that up the wall two years later.

Posted

Pretty tough call.

 

After the Watford loss and at the beginning of this season, few, if any of us... actually expected "THIS" season. So, to be fair, we could have gone up, taken the prem by storm and currently be sitting in the top 10 eyeing an outside chance at Europe.

 

Pure conjecture of course, but in my mind, like being 10pts clear at the top...equally unexpected.

Posted

People always say this but never seem to come up with a good reason why.

 

That was 6 years ago, our fortunes have taken a while to recover. It's not like we shot through the leagues and now sit midtable in the Prem. In 6 years we could have been in the Premiership already had we not gone down. We certainly wouldn't still have Holloway if that's what you're thinking.

 

As for last season, I don't think we'll ever be able to answer that question. Who knows how things would have turned out if we'd have scraped through the play-offs and gone up last season? We could be having a great season in the top flight or rooted to the bottom.

 

I just know that it will be a footnote on our history if we go up this season. It was horrible at the time but the memories are fading fast!

 

 

We weren't even a midtable second tier side in the years before we got relegated. We had three consecutive relegation battles. Leicester City, struggling to stay in the Second Division. Even when Martin Allen had us eighth after beating Watford 4-1 in 2007, it seemed like a nice respite to have City in the top half of the table again. Then the unthinkable happened and we got relegated to the third tier. We feared getting stuck down there for years like Leeds and Forest. But the team did it's job and our humbled club wasn't arrogant, started to remember what it was like to win games and suddenly, 10th wasn't good enough. Last season, 7th wouldn't have been good enough, and this season, we could be going up as champions. That's how crucial the 08/09 and 09/10 seasons were for the club. Had we escaped relegation in 07/08, we'd probably have kept Holloway and Hume and Stearman and things might have stayed the same, thinking finishing 14th would be a good result.

Guest Col city fan
Posted

This isn't me getting ahead of myself.

But does anyone think losing to Watford was a blessing in disguise?

We weren't guaranteed to have beat palace had we have got there and would we have been ready for the Prem last season?

We've had the chance to learn from our mistakes and come back as a stronger unit, playing better football with a settled squad that is being built for the premiership.

I know there's still a long way to go but I'll even admit things are looking promising for us.

Or can this not be answered until May and even further on, this time next year?

No.

This type of post makes no sense. The aim last season was promotion. If we would have gone up, none of us would have had the faintest clue who we might have signed, the formation we'd have played etc. This is just mere speculation. What is fact however is that we would have been playing in the Prem with all the riches that brings. A year earlier...

Look at the current Prem table. Many last season claimed that Cardiff would be better off for having built their squad up over time before they got promoted. Well they are currently second from bottom having sacked the very same manager that took them up! So that theory didnt hold did it.

No. The aim for years has been promotion. I'm very much of the opinion that you get promoted, then build a squad fit for the Premiership, around what you have already, granted, but with important additions.

So no, it wasnt a blessing in disguise. Primarily because you have no idea what Nige would have done to keep us up.

Look at it this way. Which of the three squads who were promoted last season look anything much like they were last season? Answer... none of them really. Perhaps the closest, until a couple of days ago, was Cardiff and they were doing the worst of the three.

Guest Col city fan
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Pretty tough call.

After the Watford loss and at the beginning of this season, few, if any of us... actually expected "THIS" season. So, to be fair, we could have gone up, taken the prem by storm and currently be sitting in the top 10 eyeing an outside chance at Europe.

Pure conjecture of course, but in my mind, like being 10pts clear at the top...equally unexpected.

Great post... as you say, its pure conjecture.

Guest Col city fan
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I get where you are coming from Bert.

I think the bigger blessing has been going out in the cups when we did.

Well at least you might come and watch us play if we get into the Premiership eh Socceroo? But only if we get into the Premiership?

:thumbup:

Posted

We've been progressing since our league one season, I'd say that was a blessing in disguise, Watford was the wake up call - but I agree with what you're saying, we were not ready to go up last season but on the evidence of this season.....

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Well at least you might come and watch us play if we get into the Premiership eh Socceroo? But only if we get into the Premiership?

:thumbup:

 

A few things on the bucket list might need to wait another  if we make it and if work allow, they don't seem to like my semi regular 7-8 week jaunts overseas.

Posted

I think it was all for the best. The awful run of form, to me, showed they weren't quite ready and had we scraped through last season we'd have probably gone straight back down again. Even if we'd have spent huge in the Summer, a few teams (ourselves included) have shown that big squad shake-ups can have a negative effect.

 

There's no guarantee we are going up but it's looking more and more likely every match. The team as a whole have gelled perfectly, individually we have got some players who are really firing on all cylinders now and I think we can go up and stay up with very few squad changes this summer.

 

The future's bright, the future's blue!

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No.

This type of post makes no sense. The aim last season was promotion. If we would have gone up, none of us would have had the faintest clue who we might have signed, the formation we'd have played etc. This is just mere speculation. What is fact however is that we would have been playing in the Prem with all the riches that brings. A year earlier...

Look at the current Prem table. Many last season claimed that Cardiff would be better off for having built their squad up over time before they got promoted. Well they are currently second from bottom having sacked the very same manager that took them up! So that theory didnt hold did it.

No. The aim for years has been promotion. I'm very much of the opinion that you get promoted, then build a squad fit for the Premiership, around what you have already, granted, but with important additions.

So no, it wasnt a blessing in disguise. Primarily because you have no idea what Nige would have done to keep us up.

Look at it this way. Which of the three squads who were promoted last season look anything much like they were last season? Answer... none of them really. Perhaps the closest, until a couple of days ago, was Cardiff and they were doing the worst of the three.

Maybe you just don't see things as a bigger picture then.....
Posted

I genuinely believe both Terry Robinson and Craig Shakespear are

the unsung heroes this season. Nigel sitting up in the stands this season alongside Mr Robinson leaving Shakey to get on with things pitchside has done us a world of good. We are transformed this season, playing better football quickly passing and moving, not the hoofball we saw last season.

I am not saying Mr Pearson does not deserve some of the credit because he does, he has learnt from his mistakes last season, and is better for it. However, since we have appointed Terry Robinson we are transformed.

Guest Col city fan
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Maybe you just don't see things as a bigger picture then.....

Try harder Bert. What does that even mean?

As I said, which of the squads promoted last season are playing pretty much the teams they finished last season with?

Pearson might be different granted. He might want to play the bulk of this season's squad, next season if we go up. But its rare that this happens.

And it still doesn't mean it was good that we didn't go up last season. Of course it wasn't. You're basing your argument on expecting that we've pretty much built a squad capable of staying up next season. Well as I said, many made the same argument of Cardiff.

Guest Col city fan
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If we had have gone up then players like Vardy and James may not have had the opportunities to develop like they have - that is a big positive for sure.

Again mate... mere speculation. As Babs once said, I think, it can be really surprising which players make the step up to the Premiership. James and Vardy may have taken the leap with vigour. You/I just don't know.

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