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Route 1 football - England's future?

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Who does pride of the midlands support?

 

Villa.

 

edit: I think... (Awkward if he turns around and says he supports Birmingham).

Posted

Not a wind up at all.

 

If Uruguay have such superior players to us I'd expect that to be reflected in FIFA.

 

The Pride of the Midlands  ;)

 

Don't be ridiculous.

 

You know full well the World Cup game is the only game to pay attention to when looking at this kind of thing.

 

Hope we aren't 5 star but no doubt we will be lol. I think we could take a squad of League Two players and EA woulds still give us a 5* rating. 

Posted

Surely I am not alone in thinking England can and in my opinion should get out of our group?

 

Uruguay whilst having two brilliant strikers, and a sprinkling of other talented players, are a side that we could match up to with no doubt, if we can dominate the midfield, which id say we can easily do, we can get the upper hand and get a good results.

 

Italy as well are not as good as they used to be and in Hodgson we have a manager who can organise the side and lets face facts they couldn't break us down in Euro's. 

 

Hodgson does cop a bit of stick for being defensive, I often agree he can be too cautious, however he showed vs Montenegro, a game in which we needed to go for it, that he was prepared to throw caution to the wind. However he isnt a stupid manager and i have way more confidence in him then i have in capello in terms of setting a side out that is hard to beat

Posted

Surely I am not alone in thinking England can and in my opinion should get out of our group?

 

Uruguay whilst having two brilliant strikers, and a sprinkling of other talented players, are a side that we could match up to with no doubt, if we can dominate the midfield, which id say we can easily do, we can get the upper hand and get a good results.

 

Italy as well are not as good as they used to be and in Hodgson we have a manager who can organise the side and lets face facts they couldn't break us down in Euro's. 

 

Hodgson does cop a bit of stick for being defensive, I often agree he can be too cautious, however he showed vs Montenegro, a game in which we needed to go for it, that he was prepared to throw caution to the wind. However he isnt a stupid manager and i have way more confidence in him then i have in capello in terms of setting a side out that is hard to beat

 

 Well no, we can, the discussion was whether it was likely, and I don't think it is, I suppose if we flood the midfield with 3 it may work as they will probably go with four in order to accommodate Cavani and Surarez, but then I should imagine they will try and shut us down in the middle of the park and most of their creativity is going to come from out wide as they've dangerous players on the wings. Worrying, as Ashley Cole isn't playing regularly I'm not a fan of the defensive side of Baines's game and our right backs aren't particularity useful. The biggest problem against Uruguay is European team's tend to not do so well on South American soil. I suppose we did ok to get a draw at the Maracana last time we were there but we got dicked on that game and were lucky.

 

Likewise, I get slightly perplexed as to why some people look at the Italy game as proof that they aren't capable of beating us, for a start off they still have a very similar team, we've lost John Terry who was undoubtedly our MOTM that game and again, Ashley Cole may not get the nod. Secondly we got battered, if you think them having 31 efforts at goal is "not breaking us down" I think you're probably best following a different sport. How they didn't score is still a mystery to me, they were wasteful in front of goal and thoroughly outclassed us for 120 minutes. We may get a bit more joy out of them this time as they are the classic tournament slow starters but I'd still make the marginal favorites. 

Posted

31 attempts at goal but didn't score.. Brilliant that Balotelli, he is one to fear him.

 

I wouldn't say so, wasn't like he was joint top goalscorer at the tournament or anything.

Posted

31 attempts at goal but didn't score.. Brilliant that Balotelli, he is one to fear him.

 I'm sure Italy are quaking in their boots at our attacking capabilities, conjuring up 8 shots in 120 minutes. 

Posted

 I'm sure Italy our quaking in their boots at our attacking capabilities, conjuring up 8 shots in 120 minutes. 

 

Sturrdige the conqueror of San Marino wasn't playing then, we'll be fine.

EDIT: Actually San Marino's in Italy isn't it

 

there's an omen for you.

Posted

 Well no, we can, the discussion was whether it was likely, and I don't think it is, I suppose if we flood the midfield with 3 it may work as they will probably go with four in order to accommodate Cavani and Surarez, but then I should imagine they will try and shut us down in the middle of the park and most of their creativity is going to come from out wide as they've dangerous players on the wings. Worrying, as Ashley Cole isn't playing regularly I'm not a fan of the defensive side of Baines's game and our right backs aren't particularity useful. The biggest problem against Uruguay is European team's tend to not do so well on South American soil. I suppose we did ok to get a draw at the Maracana last time we were there but we got dicked on that game and were lucky.

 

Likewise, I get slightly perplexed as to why some people look at the Italy game as proof that they aren't capable of beating us, for a start off they still have a very similar team, we've lost John Terry who was undoubtedly our MOTM that game and again, Ashley Cole may not get the nod. Secondly we got battered, if you think them having 31 efforts at goal is "not breaking us down" I think you're probably best following a different sport. How they didn't score is still a mystery to me, they were wasteful in front of goal and thoroughly outclassed us for 120 minutes. We may get a bit more joy out of them this time as they are the classic tournament slow starters but I'd still make the marginal favorites. 

 

I dont disagree with you about Italy being favourites thats for sure, but like you said they do tend to start slow and even a bad performance vs Costa Rica opening game may start to get a bit of unrest going there.

 

True it is on South American soil but its a completely different country and but i do feel as if Hodgson will make sure we set up in a manner that will restrict Uruguay, it may not be pretty but i dont think we'll lose. 

 

If all else fails Liverpool have Newcastle last day of the season so Pardew can just headbutt Suarez and thats one less problem

Posted

He'll chuck something out about stats on FIFA soon.

 

I'd rather have Sturridge up front than Balotelli. He's very over-rated.

Posted

Not a wind up at all.

 

If Uruguay have such superior players to us I'd expect that to be reflected in FIFA.

 

The Pride of the Midlands  ;)

 

Holy ****ing shit.

Posted

Sturridge who has scored more goals than Balotelli this season...

Alrightey, here's two for you:

 

One swallow doesn't make a summer.

 

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Posted

Alrightey, here's two for you:

One swallow doesn't make a summer.

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Form that has lasted for 13 months and Sturridge who was out for two months of this season? Not a bad stretch of form that.
Posted

Form that has lasted for 13 months and Sturridge who was out for two months of this season? Not a bad stretch of form that.

Let's just hope for the sake of England that he can carry that form into the World Cup this summer.

Posted

Don't be ridiculous.

 

You know full well the World Cup game is the only game to pay attention to when looking at this kind of thing.

 

Hope we aren't 5 star but no doubt we will be lol. I think we could take a squad of League Two players and EA woulds still give us a 5* rating. 

 

 

An authentic and exhaustive interactive memento of what's promising to be a memorable tournament, then, and one that quite possibly exceeds expectations in what it sets out to deliver. There's still one slight reservation about its authenticity, though. England, despite a less than favourable recent run of form and some bleak prospects for the tournament itself, remain a five-star team in the game. Is national pride getting the better of some of the ex-pats like Prior over in EA Vancouver? "Well, the key guy who does all our data collection is actually German. So he'll take every opportunity to reduce us if he can. It's the sum of its parts, really - I think we have got some good players, but..." Prior pauses. "Yeah, maybe it is a bit optimistic."

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-03-04-how-2014-fifa-world-cup-brazil-is-justifying-its-full-fat-price-tag

 

England are underrated by the English.

Posted

Or, they're over-rated by a German.

 

Seeing as you love FIFA ratings so much - I find it daft how many 5 star teams there are on the game. There should be only about 5 IMO.

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Posted

Or, they're over-rated by a German.

 

Seeing as you love FIFA ratings so much - I find it daft how many 5 star teams there are on the game. There should be only about 5 IMO.

 

I'd argue it should only have 1 - Spain, they have won the last three major tournaments and should be considered on a higher plane to everyone else.

 

Give Brazil, Argentina and Germany 4 and then you can start the rest on 3.

 

In reality that's the gap in quality we are seeing at the top of International football.

Posted

I'd argue it should only have 1 - Spain, they have won the last three major tournaments and should be considered on a higher plane to everyone else.

 

Give Brazil, Argentina and Germany 4 and then you can start the rest on 3.

 

In reality that's the gap in quality we are seeing at the top of International football.

 

I was including club sides as well and I'd stick Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern, Spain and Argentina as 5 star, maybe Germany.

 

They have have half star ratings as well although I don't see this being of much use to you lol I'd have England 4 star. Maybe rising to 4.5 if Surridge is played up front.

Posted

I'd argue it should only have 1 - Spain, they have won the last three major tournaments and should be considered on a higher plane to everyone else.

 

Give Brazil, Argentina and Germany 4 and then you can start the rest on 3.

 

In reality that's the gap in quality we are seeing at the top of International football.

 

That's just ridiculous.

 

You do know that there are more than 10 countries who play football right?

 

You've put the top 10% of international football in a 2 star range (5 star to 3 star)

 

So how are you going to put the other 90% into a 3 star range (3 star to 0.5 star)

 

The gap between England and Spain is much smaller than the gap between England and Scotland.

 

In fact you have a level in between England and Scotland someone like Sweden.

 

Then you have the level below Scotland someone like Moldova.

 

Then you have the lowest level i.e. San Marino

 

basically if you were to grade the nations A - E

 

A plus- Spain

A - Germany

A minus- England

B - Sweden, Croatia

C - Scotland, Ireland

D - Moldova, Northern Ireland

E - San Marino, Gibraltar

 

So England are on the top level but at the lower end of that particular tier

Posted

I was including club sides as well and I'd stick Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern, Spain and Argentina as 5 star, maybe Germany.

 

They have have half star ratings as well although I don't see this being of much use to you lol I'd have England 4 star. Maybe rising to 4.5 if Surridge is played up front.

 

4 star  lol  That's the same as Ireland and USA  lol

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