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Is the current squad the best we ever had going up to top flight football?

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To me the current is the best team I seen going up to top flight football, even better than the O'Neill promotion side 1995-96, Pearson and the backroom staff have done an excellent job in producing a team that can not only go up, but also compete with teams at the next level. We have excellent players in every position, hopefully we will be able to keep them all when we go up.

Guest Col city fan
Posted

Not for me..

People seem to maybe forget just how good Lennon, Muzzy, Claridge and Heskey were.

All four players better than anything we have now IMO.

Posted

Not for me..

People seem to maybe forget just how good Lennon, Muzzy, Claridge and Heskey were.

All four players better than anything we have now IMO.

Dont forget Walshy.

BUT.... Dont forget that 1996 team had some average players too. They only finished 6th... whereas the current first team is strong in every position and runaway Champions.

. I reckon yesterdays line up would beat the team that beat Palace at Wembley in 1996:

LEICESTER CITY:

GK 1 Kevin Poole 119'

RB 2 Simon Grayson

CB 4 Julian Watts

CB 5 Steve Walsh ©

LB 3 Mike Whitlow

RM 10 Garry Parker

CM 6 Muzzy Izzet

CM 7 Neil Lennon

LM 8 Scott Taylor

CF 11 Emile Heskey

CF 9 Steve Claridge

Substitutes:

FW 12 Mark Robins

GK 13 Željko Kalac 119'

DF 14 Colin Hill

Posted

MON's promotion winning side was only just taking shape and we weren't exactly dominating the the old first division. We failed to win more times in MON's half season than we have for the whole of this season so far. So I think it's fair to say that our performance this year is of a higher standard than back then. Whether we'll improve as much as we did under MON is anyone's guess.

Posted

Dont forget Walshy.

BUT.... Dont forget that 1996 team had some average players too. They only finished 6th... whereas the current first team is strong in every position and runaway Champions.

. I reckon yesterdays line up would beat the team that beat Palace at Wembley in 1996:

LEICESTER CITY:

GK 1 Kevin Poole 119'

RB 2 Simon Grayson

CB 4 Julian Watts

CB 5 Steve Walsh ©

LB 3 Mike Whitlow

RM 10 Garry Parker

CM 6 Muzzy Izzet

CM 7 Neil Lennon

LM 8 Scott Taylor

CF 11 Emile Heskey

CF 9 Steve Claridge

Substitutes:

FW 12 Mark Robins

GK 13 Željko Kalac 119'

DF 14 Colin Hill

Just the thought of that 1995/96 season's ending and the subsequent four years under O'Neill in the Prem (and even Peter Taylor's promising start after then) gives me goose bumps, even now! Agreed though that this is the better team from the two and better than Micky Adams 2003 motley crue too! :)

Posted

Not for me..

People seem to maybe forget just how good Lennon, Muzzy, Claridge and Heskey were.

All four players better than anything we have now IMO.

 

Don't entirely agree, Col. I think Lennon and Izzet were good, but got better - in the way that (say) Knockaert, Mahrez, Drinkwater and James should improve, if we keep them (and if we go up). I think Vardy has the potential to be a much better player than Heskey or Claridge (and I was big fan of both). The post asks about the squad, which is immeasurably better as a whole than the one that came up in 96.

 

The lot that came up in 82-83 was also pretty good (Lineker, Smith, Lynex, Ian Wilson, Wallington, Larry May etc), but again I think the squad we have today is better. In fact, I hold to what I said just over a year ago that this squad has the potential to be the best we've ever had.

Posted

We don't have a deadball specialist half as good as Parker for me, nor the aerial threat from set-pieces. I do think this side has more "technically gifted" players, for want of a better term though.

 

Different eras, mind - makes it difficult to compare.

Posted

Don't entirely agree, Col. I think Lennon and Izzet were good, but got better - in the way that (say) Knockaert, Mahrez, Drinkwater and James should improve, if we keep them (and if we go up). I think Vardy has the potential to be a much better player than Heskey or Claridge (and I was big fan of both). The post asks about the squad, which is immeasurably better as a whole than the one that came up in 96.

 

The lot that came up in 82-83 was also pretty good (Lineker, Smith, Lynex, Ian Wilson, Wallington, Larry May etc), but again I think the squad we have today is better. In fact, I hold to what I said just over a year ago that this squad has the potential to be the best we've ever had.

 

You lost me there.

 

'96 squad was better for me, but I do love this one.

Guest Col city fan
Posted

Don't entirely agree, Col. I think Lennon and Izzet were good, but got better - in the way that (say) Knockaert, Mahrez, Drinkwater and James should improve, if we keep them (and if we go up). I think Vardy has the potential to be a much better player than Heskey or Claridge (and I was big fan of both). The post asks about the squad, which is immeasurably better as a whole than the one that came up in 96.

The lot that came up in 82-83 was also pretty good (Lineker, Smith, Lynex, Ian Wilson, Wallington, Larry May etc), but again I think the squad we have today is better. In fact, I hold to what I said just over a year ago that this squad has the potential to be the best we've ever had.

Makes sense that...

Though I don't agree with you on Vardy.

:thumbup:

Posted

Vardy might be able to match Heskey's goal scoring record but he'll never be half the player Heskey was. People underrate Heskey based on a lack of goals but he was a world class forward. Vardy is not nearly on the same level.

Posted

No,,,,, (and the Weller Worthington, Birch, Glover team were better too) ... but we are getting there

 

http://thefoxfanzine.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/the-greatest-ever-leicester-city-side/

The Greatest Ever Leicester City Side?

Forty Seven years, and one day, ago this Leicester City side kicked off the 1962-63 season with a defeat at Fulham. But it turned out to be arguably the club’s greatest ever season.
As late as April 15th City were top of the First Division and then they got to the FA Cup Final.  They were in with a very real chance of achieving The Double.
Sadly, neither piece of silverware made it to Filbert Street. All five games in May were lost, including the FA Cup Final against Manchester United.
City finished fourth while Everton were crowned Champions.

Posted

Vardy might be able to match Heskey's goal scoring record but he'll never be half the player Heskey was. People underrate Heskey based on a lack of goals but he was a world class forward. Vardy is not nearly on the same level.

 

Let's not go crazy. Heskey has always been quite an erratic player, who could undoubtably be fantastic on his day, but he also had days where he was incredibly frustrating and would seem to continuously lose out to players half the strength and size of him. He's one of the better strikers we've had, but I don't put him on the same level as Lineker, Worthington or Smith and he certainly was never at any point in his career "world class", unless you're cheapening the word beyond its means.

 

He was also an 18 or 19 year old when we were in the First Division as it was then and was just potential more than a good player at that point. Vardy and Nugent are both better than Heskey was when he was in the second tier.

 

I do think this side is better than the 96 one, but as others have said, that side improved, it's up to this side to improve too. I don't think we saw anything like the high level of performances from Izzet and Lennon in the second tier as we have from Drinwkater and James, regardless of what they went on to do in the Premier League. The best midfielder in that side in the second tier was Garry Parker, who is quite incomparable to any of our current side and I don't think would really fit into our current style of play as good as he was, due to his more considered nature compared to our current side's quick passing style.

 

Anyway, as for the question, I'm sure the 1956-57 team where we ran away with the second tier, scored over 100 goals and Arthur Rowley bagged a club record 44 in one season is probably up there, though I'm not sure if anyone is old enough to have seen them play.

Posted

Vardy might be able to match Heskey's goal scoring record but he'll never be half the player Heskey was. People underrate Heskey based on a lack of goals but he was a world class forward. Vardy is not nearly on the same level.

 

I did say Vardy has the potential to be better than Heskey, but I agree with you that some people underrated him. Players like Tony Cottee and Michael Owen gave a lot of credit to Heskey, and Stan Collymore said he was the best partner he'd ever had. But I think Vardy's speed, vision and finishing will eventually give him the edge.

Posted

 

No,,,,, (and the Weller Worthington, Birch, Glover team were better too) ... but we are getting there

 

http://thefoxfanzine.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/the-greatest-ever-leicester-city-side/

The Greatest Ever Leicester City Side?

Forty Seven years, and one day, ago this Leicester City side kicked off the 1962-63 season with a defeat at Fulham. But it turned out to be arguably the club’s greatest ever season.

As late as April 15th City were top of the First Division and then they got to the FA Cup Final.  They were in with a very real chance of achieving The Double.

Sadly, neither piece of silverware made it to Filbert Street. All five games in May were lost, including the FA Cup Final against Manchester United.

City finished fourth while Everton were crowned Champions.

 

 

 

I thought we were teams being promoted. The 62-63 squad had been in the top division for seven years.

Posted

 

No,,,,, (and the Weller Worthington, Birch, Glover team were better too) ... but we are getting there

 

http://thefoxfanzine.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/the-greatest-ever-leicester-city-side/

The Greatest Ever Leicester City Side?

Forty Seven years, and one day, ago this Leicester City side kicked off the 1962-63 season with a defeat at Fulham. But it turned out to be arguably the club’s greatest ever season.

As late as April 15th City were top of the First Division and then they got to the FA Cup Final.  They were in with a very real chance of achieving The Double.

Sadly, neither piece of silverware made it to Filbert Street. All five games in May were lost, including the FA Cup Final against Manchester United.

City finished fourth while Everton were crowned Champions.

What about 1926 when we came within a point of winning the top division

Posted

The crucial test will be where we finish in the prem after our first season up (if we get promoted). O Neills boys managed 9th. Can you top that Nige? (If we get promoted?)

Posted

As a younger fan I don't really remember the older squads pre-2004 but when compared to the other teams that have gone up recently I'd say we are stronger than most of them and have the potential with the young average age and talent in our squad to achieve something similar to what Southampton have done with their younger players (e.g. Rodriguez, Lallana, Cork, Shaw etc). Either way the future is bright.

Posted

Not for me..

People seem to maybe forget just how good Lennon, Muzzy, Claridge and Heskey were.

All four players better than anything we have now IMO.

Hardly  any of current squad would get in M.O.N  Premier side midfield  much superior no winger as good as Guppy  Flowers better  than  Schmeical  Heskey  and Cottee or Claridge or Marshall  better than our strikers  Walsh and Taggart better than our current pairing and Pontious  better than our full backs  doesnt leave many vacancies as Grayson  far from  certain to be omitted

Posted

I think the current crop are very good, but unlike earlier teams that got promoted, the playing field in the Prem is now vastly different. Whilst under O' Neill we were considered a mid table side, I think if this team can achieve mid table it would be remarkable achievement as many teams in the Prem have had the financial backing to improve squads significantly over a number of years. The gulf between the richest clubs and those mid table is growing. I think some of the players in our current squad have the potential to be real quality Premiership players (Drinkwater, James, Mahrez, Knockaert and even Moore if he continues to develop). With a few additions this could be the start of a whole new era.  

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