dmayne7 Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 Pretty sure Vardy is still better than him. Vardy puts himself about in a slightly different way but he's been our best forward this season by some distance. I think the point is that Wood has more to his game than Vards. Vards has been different gravy this year and will keep getting better. Wood is such a well-rounded player and more mobile than a lot of people give him credit for. Got a touch of the Heskey's though in the sense that he often looks down on confidence and seems like he needs an arm around the shoulder. I'd certainly keep him for a while yet.
Harry - LCFC Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 Can understand why people might be frustrated when he doesn't put the effort in that others do but with the amount of goals he's scored it's hard to understand why some people think he's a genuinely poor option up front. I think he's fvcking fantastic personally.
NewburyFox Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 I agree that he never bloody jumps, and it's infuriating given his size. In the right team he'll score a lot of goals, as seen by last season, but I just don't think that's us as our game plan doesn't suit him. We really on movement, pace and fast link up play and he doesn't really offer that. I can see him getting sold in the summer to be honest.
Danno Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 I think the point is that Wood has more to his game than Vards. Vards has been different gravy this year and will keep getting better. Wood is such a well-rounded player and more mobile than a lot of people give him credit for. Got a touch of the Heskey's though in the sense that he often looks down on confidence and seems like he needs an arm around the shoulder. I'd certainly keep him for a while yet.I'm sorry but how the fvck do you come to the conclusion that Wood has more to his game than Vardy?
StanSP Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 He is quicker, but his finishing is poor. That isn't just based off the last 2 games, but as a whole over the past 2 years. But his finishing has vastly improved. Dramatically improved from last season to this season. I'd much prefer him to Wood. Just cos Wood can put himself about, to me doesn't make him our best forward. That's not to say I don't have faith in Wood. He's shown that he can come off the bench and do what all strikers love to do - score. He's done it vs Yeovil and vs Ipswich and maybe other matches this season too. The ability is there and is clearly talented, but maybe just needs to apply himself more. I don't understand why he wasn't jumping for headers (I know he jumped for 2) but the majority of them he stood flat-footed and I just didn't get it. You're always taught as a kid to at least jump to try and put the defender off. Make your presence felt and I don't think Wood does that - perhaps it alludes to dmayne's point about confidence.
Grewks Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 All of it. The part where he was our best player against fulham? The part where he doesn't always jump? The part where he played a big role in our/his goal last night?
Danno Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 The part of him being our best striker. Laughable. He has absolutely nothing to his game apart from finishing ability.
dmayne7 Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 I'm sorry but how the fvck do you come to the conclusion that Wood has more to his game than Vardy? He's stronger, better at holding the play up, a better finisher, has a better weaker foot, better in the air (even though he doesn't jump) and his link-up play is probably better. Vardy is much quicker and has an incredible engine. Just because a player may have more facets to his game, doesn't mean they are better than players with less. Vardy is the better player at the moment and one of the most important players to the team. So basically, I weigh up the pro's and con's and come to a logical conclusion deduced from the evidence presented in my argument. No need to cry about it Oh and I'm not saying that my evidence is factual, merely that it has been used to inform my argument.
Guest MattP Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 Wood is better than Vardy when "putting himself about a bit"? I'm sorry, just no.
Danno Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 He's stronger, better at holding the play up, a better finisher, has a better weaker foot, better in the air (even though he doesn't jump) and his link-up play is probably better. Vardy is much quicker and has an incredible engine. Just because a player may have more facets to his game, doesn't mean they are better than players with less. Vardy is the better player at the moment and one of the most important players to the team. So basically, I weigh up the pro's and con's and come to a logical conclusion deduced from the evidence presented in my argument. No need to cry about it Oh and I'm not saying that my evidence is factual, merely that it has been used to inform my argument. Yeah he wins sooo many headers and flick ons considering he's apparently so good in the air and strong.
Harry - LCFC Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 Yeah he wins sooo many headers and flick ons considering he's apparently so good in the air and strong. Sarcasm. I really don't know how Dan can dismiss Wood's goalscoring ability so readily.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 Seems like Wood is the latest scapegoat for some these days, even though he scored yesterday and hardly played before that.
Libertine Dream Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 His first touch and control is awful and he cannot play with his back to the goal when the ball is high up to him which is pretty poor for a big man. I really wish he was like a younger Steve Howard but unfortunately he's not though he is only 22
Danno Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 What the fvck just typing the longest reply ever and this thread gets pissing merged.
FoxDownSouth Posted 26 March 2014 Posted 26 March 2014 Nope. Absolutely no point in changing a winning side. People just look at Nugent and go "Well, he scores penalties and hes bagged a few elsewhere" but they don't even factor into the equation all the other stuff he does. It astounds me sometimes. Nugent and Vardys partnership is crucial. Yes, Nugent might not get as many goals as he perhaps should and may go missing in games sometimes, but what he does is allow Vardy to play the game the way he is good at (and also, doing an excellent good job of it at present.) Wood is a totally different player and it would upset the balance for me going forward. Aside from his 17 goals, hes also got a hat full of assists, most of them for Vardy I'd imagine. 2 draws in a row is not a winning side. Im not trying to be a pessimist, but nuge needs a goal/ a break/ has no confidence/ in bad form, you cant always play out of bad form, and if it brings the rest of the side down, then something needs to change, goes for any player playing badly. And I'm a nugent fan.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Benji Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 Probably just me getting all sentimental but seeing Nugent ambling around on Tuesday looking knackered - isn't his daughter still relatively young? Maybe he's just not sleeping, you know, like a normal human who becomes a new dad?
LCFCCKEANO Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 Same thing happened before Ipswich, with his form vs them and the fact that 4 games before it he was completely wank, then he won us that game, even if he doesnt win us the game, he is going to score this weekend. I hope.
Jon25747 Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 Probably just me getting all sentimental but seeing Nugent ambling around on Tuesday looking knackered - isn't his daughter still relatively young? Maybe he's just not sleeping, you know, like a normal human who becomes a new dad? Not this again... I was watching the Drogba documentary the other day and he said that he didnt get to sleep until 3am most nights before games. He didnt struggle and look tired!
Dan Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 Can understand why people might be frustrated when he doesn't put the effort in that others do but with the amount of goals he's scored it's hard to understand why some people think he's a genuinely poor option up front. I think he's fvcking fantastic personally. I cannot see how based on his performances here anyone could claim he's 'fantastic'. He started excellently, but he's gone right off the boil since.
Benji Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 Not this again... I was watching the Drogba documentary the other day and he said that he didnt get to sleep until 3am most nights before games. He didnt struggle and look tired! Haha, didn't realise it'd be mentioned already! Just a suggestion - my brother's looked like hell the last couple of months and he hasn't had to work at the same time!
Gubbins Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 His first touch and control is awful and he cannot play with his back to the goal when the ball is high up to him which is pretty poor for a big man. I really wish he was like a younger Steve Howard but unfortunately he's not though he is only 22 Can't believe that people are using Howard as a positive example of how Wood should play, he was a bloody awful player. Wood is 10 times the player Howard ever was!!!
Jon25747 Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 Haha, didn't realise it'd be mentioned already! Just a suggestion - my brother's looked like hell the last couple of months and he hasn't had to work at the same time! I think it might have even had its own thread for a bit when his child was just born
Dan Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 Sarcasm. I really don't know how Dan can dismiss Wood's goalscoring ability so readily. Because with him in the side, we create less chances to actually score in the first place. I'd rather have two quick forwards who stretch the play than the big man/small man combination personally. Wood can finish and he does get the odd goal, I will never dispute that, but we are so much less threatening with him in the side and I cannot believe some don't see that. I don't want it to appear like I've got some agenda because I'd love him to prove me wrong, but I'm not expecting it. Seems like Wood is the latest scapegoat for some these days, even though he scored yesterday and hardly played before that. A scapegoat for what? I swear constructive criticism is banned on here.
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