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[Manwell Pablo]

I'm just going through this thread and I'm going to pick out the stupid short sighted things you've said, seeing as I've got a free day at work (and it probably will take all day) seeing as you bizarrely think you've been talking footballing sence this whole time

Another point I want to get across, is Mexico. They're a real footballing nation and see America has a joke. When they lost to America in the 2002 world cup.

This couldn't be more wrong, Mexico and the US are actually quite bitter rivals when it comes to football especially in recent years, a rivalry the US has had the better of all in all in recent years since the sport has got more popular, They've done as well or better than Mexico in three out of the last four World Cups (as you point out, knocking them out in one of them) they've won 3 out of the last 5 CONCACAF Gold Cups, and are the current champions having won it last year (Mexico not even making the final). Topped Qualifying for this World Cup while Mexico needed a play off. Topped CONCACAF Qualifying in 2010 beating Mexico into 2nd, and topped CONCAF Qualifying in 2006, again beating them into second. If losing to the US in embarrassing in Mexico there are a lot of red faces about.

So there you go Mr Footballing Expert, first example of you talking absolute drivel. Don't believe me? I'm sure if you use one of you search engines you'll be able to read all about the rivalry between the two sides.

Edited 15 July 2014 by Manwell Pablo

[Manwell Pablo]

Disagree England invented most popular sports and I would say are more sport mad.

Football, cricket, rugby, boxing and Golf. All English sports.

Golf is Scottish.

[Manwell Pablo]

Football aswell, Teams always travel in big numbers in the champions league or Europa League. No other countries in Europe does. One world cup were we've only took 10,000. See how many we take to Russia 2018 and how many Americans or Aussies travel.

England away support is the best in the world based on numbers over the last 100 years. One world cup doesn't make them more passionate.

Germans travel just as well if not better than us.

[C-man]

Germans travel just as well if not better than us.

Agree for the Champions/Europa League but definitely not for international football. My mates over there think their national team fans are the biggest ****** on the planet.

[Manwell Pablo]

1998 -

Verdict - Beckham sending off cost England the world cup, plus Sol Campbell had a disallowed goal what should of stood.

2002 - England after the disastrous Keegan reign, came into this world cup full of hope after a famous 5-1 win against Germany. A tough group with a famous win over Argentina led into England destroying Denmark and into a quarter final with Brazil. England went ahead early and controlled the game untill Beckham backed out a challenge and brazil went in level. Nothing was really happening untill brazil scored the flukeist goal in world cup history. Brazil went down to ten and if that flukey goal wouldn't had went in. England would off probably won and definitely won the world cup with a crap Germany team, South Korea and Turkey left.

Verdict - The real world cup final was England vs Brazil, who ever won that was gonna win it. A flukey goal put england out. England could of easily won it.

2006 - The golden generation, favourites to win it. England had a amazing group of players at the world cup but missing their star player in Rooney. Yeah he was there but wasn't never fit. After destroying Euro 2004 everyone expected Rooney to finally bring football home. After a bad injured against chelsea, he was racing to get fit. England didn't play amazing but did enough to set up a quarter final clash with Portugal. England matched Portugal that day but Portugal player's wound Rooney up and his old pal Ronaldo got pushed and got him sent off. Even with ten man just like 98. England wouldn't be beating and went out in a cruel penalty shoot out.

Verdict - A fit Rooney and England could of definitely went all the way. There was no way Italy side were better then that set of English players

2010 - England arrived after great qualification success, a win in Germany set everything up nicely. Then the terry shagged Bridges ex mrs story came out and got stripped of the captaincy and handed to a weaker captain in Gerrard. England struggled through a easy group and were getting pasted by Germany. Then something magical happened, upson pulled a goal back and Lampard equalised putting England in charge and Germany in the back foot. Then something wrong happened, the goal wasn't given and now England were dejected. 2ND Half England piled forward and got caught on the counter attack.

Verdict - key players didn't perform and a bad results in the group left England looking down and out. Then when Lampard equalised, England had finally arrived and were in business. Who knows what would of ever happened but if England won that game 3-2. England would had been on a role going into a quarter final looking for revenge against Maradona.

2014 - England's worst world cup ever. Biggest mistake was the midfield pairing of Gerrard and Henderson. Nothing was being created in the final 3rd and England just didn't have enough with players like struidge and Sterling who had their moments but weren't good enough

Verdict - worst world cup ever and never fancied to do owt and why Woy should be sacked.

So by my logic, England have had no luck over the years and always gone into most world cups as fancied and a heavyweight.

In closing NEVER STOP ME DREAMIN

Alot of the post is utter pie in the sky crap but as we're just talking facts you've stated that are incorrect I'll keep it to that and ignore opinions

Shearer Elbow 1998

Brazil outplayed us, more possession and shots on and off target, we weren't in the entirety of the second half and unquestionably the best you could argue we deserved ET which if your talking hypothetically wouldn't of suited us as they looked twice as fresh as we did, even if we had got pens, we all know how they normally end.

Germans destroyed us in 2010 and we were diabolical all tournament

[Manwell Pablo]

Agree for the Champions/Europa League but definitely not for international football. My mates over there think their national team fans are the biggest ****** on the planet.

Yep was talking Club football as that's what he said.

[Manwell Pablo]

Just because you have a good world cup Daniel, doesn't make you some kind of awesome player. The premiership and la liga are alot tougher.

In your idiot logic, brian ruiz is a better player then Rooney loool.

Spain, Portugal, England, ivory coast and Italy are much better sides then the USA.

And MC please your logic is even more retarded, Switzerland are better because they got further hahaha

Leicester must be better then Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd because we got further in the league cup !!!

Seriously US fookin A.

There is absolute nothing factual to suggest Ivory Coast are a better side than the US, they currently have a higher FIFA ranking, did better at the last World Cup, and have won the only meeting between the two sides.

This is fun. Not even past page 5 yet.

[Manwell Pablo]

Also danny the disabled, The Premiership is easily in the top 2 best leagues in the world ... #Usaarefrickingawesomebecausetheygottotheknockoutstagesoftheworldcupandlosttoacrapbelgiumside

Currently only just holding on to it's status as 2nd beat league in Europe so no, might be 2nd atm but very far from "easily" wrong again I'm afraid. A good showing from German teams at the Champions League and we could be third by the end of the season.

For someone who can destroy people at football you seem to get an awful lot wrong

[Manwell Pablo]

See what I mean the US football is a raise !!!, the MlS is shockingly crap on par with scottish 2 division.

Tell you what MC, when the MLS gets more popular and better player's and bigger crowds then please come back to this thread

This is a complete falsity. The MLS is around the standard of League One English football. At worst you could perhaps say League Two at a push. No where near Scottish 2nd Division which is on a par with Step 3/4 Non League English football.

[Manwell Pablo]

No because MC, this might come as a massive shock for you, but players who play for big clubs ... Don't give two fcuks about playing in the world cup after a long hard season.

Most player's class the champions League as the biggest trophy you can win and I agree. Why teams like America, Algeria and Costa Rica give it everything and the big nations don't give a monkeys.

Is that right, funny as half of Germany's team played for Bayern one of the best sides in Europe, and Ozil plays for Arsenal, Hummels for Dortmund, they all seemed pretty bothered to me, as did Messi, Mascherano, Higuian, Aguero did when they lost, given they were in tears.

Not said that's not true in this entire thread, not even halfway through yet, think I can get one more in before lunch.

Edited 15 July 2014 by Manwell Pablo

[SOCCERROO FOX]

I'm enjoying this Manwell keep up the good work

[Manwell Pablo]

Also England haven't won 1 world cup either, we didn't compete in the first 3 and we were better then any team in the 30's and didn't take the first 3 world cup seriously.

So if did enter the first 3 we would had won the first 3 world cups, so technically England are 4 times world champions, 1 behind Brazil and Italy would be on two.

England are by this logic are the 2nd best team in world cup history.

And yeah, think we've covered this this one already .

[foxfanazer]

I think every thread in FT is going to end up like this soon. So many arguments in almost every thread!

We know how to celebrate promotion don't we!

[Manwell Pablo]

Stop attacking my character please, my age has nothing to do with this thread. You're bacasily bulling me all ganging up on me because your football knowledge is inferior to mine and I'm not surprised. Please let's not get personal because I'm nicknamed Dangerous for a reason.

And Finally, as in the last two pages you just seem to name call instead of talk about football, you want to look back and look at the way you've been talking to other people and ask yourself if you deserve it.

And there we have it Mr "I've not said noffing that aint true in dis fread, fact, I'm a football genius mayte" full comprehensive break down of your bollocks.

And I've decided you can donate that £20 you owe me to Foxestalk. so get donating.

Edited 15 July 2014 by Manwell Pablo

[Hugo Sanchez]

Manwell all you have done there is voice your opinion, I have stated facts and maybe's. My world cup guide from 1970 is spot on and Shearer Elbow the keeper AFTER the bal went pass him. He was never claiming the ball. Mexico are the Heavyweights in North America and losing to America is embarrassing to them.

£20 to donate to foxestalk ? Funny because I'm talking too mark atm about buying half this forum or all of it.

[Manwell Pablo]

Manwell all you have done there is voice your opinion, I have stated facts and maybe's. My world cup guide from 1970 is spot on and Shearer Elbow the keeper AFTER the bal went pass him. He was never claiming the ball. Mexico are the Heavyweights in North America and losing to America is embarrassing to them.

£20 to donate to foxestalk ? Funny because I'm talking too mark atm about buying half this forum or all of it.

Yes, Golf being Scottish is my "opinion"

Get on YouTube .

I've posted evidence, where is yours.

Are ya?

[Guest MattP]

Manwell all you have done there is voice your opinion, I have stated facts and maybe's. My world cup guide from 1970 is spot on and Shearer Elbow the keeper AFTER the bal went pass him. He was never claiming the ball. Mexico are the Heavyweights in North America and losing to America is embarrassing to them.

£20 to donate to foxestalk ? Funny because I'm talking too mark atm about buying half this forum or all of it.

A quick £20 donation won't be a problem then will it?

And it will show Mark you reallty care about the place. Good man.

[MC Prussian]

Manwell all you have done there is voice your opinion, I have stated facts and maybe's. My world cup guide from 1970 is spot on and Shearer Elbow the keeper AFTER the bal went pass him. He was never claiming the ball. Mexico are the Heavyweights in North America and losing to America is embarrassing to them.

£20 to donate to foxestalk ? Funny because I'm talking too mark atm about buying half this forum or all of it.

Mexico is part of Middle America.

And the rivalry with the US runs much deeper - look up the political background on Wikipedia, Ash.

Buying the forum? You can't even afford paying back twenty quid. No one would know that you're past the twenty-year mark with the way you write.

[Lord Nibblington]

Manwell all you have done there is voice your opinion, I have stated facts and maybe's. My world cup guide from 1970 is spot on and Shearer Elbow the keeper AFTER the bal went pass him. He was never claiming the ball. Mexico are the Heavyweights in North America and losing to America is embarrassing to them.

£20 to donate to foxestalk ? Funny because I'm talking too mark atm about buying half this forum or all of it.

What is stating a maybe if it is not the same as stating an opinion?

*awaitsfontofcrapasanexplanation*

[Dan]

This is an absolute annihilation lol

[Dan]

Manwell all you have done there is voice your opinion, I have stated facts and maybe's. My world cup guide from 1970 is spot on and Shearer Elbow the keeper AFTER the bal went pass him. He was never claiming the ball. Mexico are the Heavyweights in North America and losing to America is embarrassing to them.

£20 to donate to foxestalk ? Funny because I'm talking too mark atm about buying half this forum or all of it.

Your guide was just a load of excuses. All ifs and buts. Depressing reading if anything.

[Manwell Pablo]

Your guide was just a load of excuses. All ifs and buts. Depressing reading if anything.

Also no mention of the rather massive slice of luck we had in 66.

Anyway, enjoy it while it lasts when he buys the forum I'll be on a perm ban

[SOCCERROO FOX]

Manwell all you have done there is voice your opinion, I have stated facts and maybe's. My world cup guide from 1970 is spot on and Shearer Elbow the keeper AFTER the bal went pass him. He was never claiming the ball. Mexico are the Heavyweights in North America and losing to America is embarrassing to them.

£20 to donate to foxestalk ? Funny because I'm talking too mark atm about buying half this forum or all of it.

[danny.]

Ok Lets do some studing folks.

1970 - ... Peter Bonetti has a mere,

Verdict- could of won the world cup and extremely unlucky.

1982 - ...

Verdict - Unlucky and bad luck with injuries again ... could of easily reached the final

1986 - started of with a poor lose to Portugal ...

Verdict - Cheated out of a world cup semi final, England with Lineker on fire could had easily won it.

1990 - ... Then a tragedy unfolded what would haunt English football.

Verdict - Deserve to be world champions, better team then West Germany and Argentina.

1998 - England should had topped the group...

Verdict - Beckham sending off cost England the world cup, plus Sol Campbell had a disallowed goal what should of stood.

2002 -... England would off probably won...

Verdict - ...England could of easily won it.

2006 - ...After a bad injured against chelsea, ... England wouldn't be beating and went out in a cruel penalty shoot out.

Verdict - A fit Rooney and England could of definitely went all the way....

 

 

Do you have some kind of random word generator that you use when attempting to form sentences? I think you need to "do some studing"...

Edited 16 July 2014 by danny.

[Stadt]

I reckon he types out what he wants on google translate changes into Albanian then to Mandarin and back to English via Swahili.