England Squad vs Norway

[Grandad.]

How are England better with width when we have no real quality genuine wingers and no strikers who get in the box and become a target?

 

I agree with you that we need a break up player, Henderson or Wilshire need to become that man for England otherwise like you say, someone else is going to have to come in and do that job, the diamond is the future, the only way you get the best of Raheem Sterling, Rooney has to play as a striker and Sturridge is better when he has a partner. 

[Guest MattP]

Glad I didn't watch it, sounded absolutely shite.

 

Looking at our first XI compared to the ones put out in the Germany v Argentina match it's awful to see just how far we have fell behind. Switzerland are a great bet at anything over evens to beat us on Monday.

[ScouseFox]

If they play a diamond as well, the likes of Oxlade-Chamberlain & Sterling would be drifting inside too often

 

the whole point of playing the diamond is to have sterling in the middle. it'd be interesting to see how someone playing in the centre could drift inside too often. 

[kingfox]

the whole point of playing the diamond is to have sterling in the middle. it'd be interesting to see how someone playing in the centre could drift inside too often. 

 

Sterling is better on the wing, the best thing about him is his pace & skill, same applies to Oxlade-Chamberlain, Sterling was very frustrating trying to cut inside all the time.

 

When Walcott is back, him and Sterling on the wings could be very exciting. 

[ScouseFox]

Sterling is better on the wing, the best thing about him is his pace & skill, same applies to Oxlade-Chamberlain, Sterling was very frustrating trying to cut inside all the time.

 

When Walcott is back, him and Sterling on the wings could be very exciting. 

 

yeah but he's not. he was a good winger for a large part of last season, then got moved behind the front two and went from a good winger to a guaranteed starter at the world cup and our most exciting player. 

 

it's frustrating watching him cut inside because he then has a wing back follow him, a centre mid/centre back come out towards his run and will inevitably get crowded out. he picks the ball up in the centre circle, turns and is immediately running at a centre back with sturridge and rooney making runs in behind them and we're going to score. it's pretty simple really. but for some reason hodgson thinks it's better to null the threat of sterling, let rooney do whatever he wants (nothing good) and isolate sturridge up by himself. cracking. 

[Grandad.]

Sterling is better on the wing, the best thing about him is his pace & skill, same applies to Oxlade-Chamberlain, Sterling was very frustrating trying to cut inside all the time.

 

When Walcott is back, him and Sterling on the wings could be very exciting. 

 

Sterling is better on the wing? Just out of interest when has Sterling shown he is better on the wing than he is leading the diamond?

 

Sterling hasn't played as a winger since around February so it's quite funny that you would think this.

[J.Lisemore]

For anyone interested, Switzerland DNB odds are at 10/11 with WilliamHill.

 

All over it.

[ScouseFox]

we won't lose to switzerland 

[Narborough_fox]

Why has Clyne never been in the England squad? 

[zak_lcfc]

Sturridge is greedy but when he has the ball I feel he can do more with it than the likes of Rooney, The performance was fairly substandard especially defensively when we got caught a few times.

 

Sterling, Sturridge and Oxlade are exciting the watch with the quick runs and passing play but the then it came to Rooney and he just seemed to slow the game down, couldn't get the ball under control and lost possession in dangerous positions. The problem with Rooney for me is that all we ever hear from pundits and commentators is "IF he produces a moment of magic he can win a game" or "He's world class on his day" but we haven't had that Rooney for a very long time which is a shame considering the player he once was for England, now he's captain though Roy won't drop him.

 

Looking forward to Walcott and Barkley coming back, going forward we have serious weapons just from CDM back we lack top top players. 

 

I also think that this exposes Hodgson'ss shortcomings tactically and in man managment, I've always had the impression he's been 'successful' playing defensively not quick attacking football and for me it shows in formation and the way we play.

[FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife]

Wayne Rooney was so static last night it was a ****ing joke. The amount of times Wilshere/Henderson/Oxlade-Chamberlain/Sterling had the ball at their feet and were looking for movement in front of them only to see Rooney stood by a Norwegian defender was well in to double figures. Sturridge had brilliant movement, always looking to run in behind and drag defenders out of position, but nothing from the "chubby" overpaid England captain. If you are picking an in-form England side that waste of space would be nowhere near it. 

 

England side for me with all players fit

 

Hart

 

Clyne

Cahill

Stones

Baines

 

Oxlade-Chamberlain

Wilshere

Henderson

Sterling

 

Barkley

 

Sturridge

 

Stones - Not as good as Moore

Wilshere - He's a myth of a player, the rumours I've heard about that ankle injury appear too true sadly

Henderson - Junk, feeble and not as good a Drinky

Sturridge - Sadly as good as we have now which is just a reflection of how far we have fallen

[Grandad.]

 

Stones - Not as good as Moore

Wilshere - He's a myth of a player, the rumours I've heard about that ankle injury appear too true sadly

Henderson - Junk, feeble and not as good a Drinky

Sturridge - Sadly as good as we have now which is just a reflection of how far we have fallen

 

 

The bad thing there is you actually believe Moore and Drinkwater are better than Stones and Henderson don't you?

[FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife]

The bad thing there is you actually believe Moore and Drinkwater are better than Stones and Henderson don't you?

 

It was a touch tongue in cheek - my gripe was more about the fact that such abject players are in out national side. Stones and Chambers are classic examples of being thrown in too early. Also neither will get in their club side when everyone is fit.

[Tincy]

Daniel Sturridge has been sent for a scan after he was injured in training on Friday, FA not saying what the injury is at this moment in time.

[Finnegan]

The bad thing there is you actually believe Moore and Drinkwater are better than Stones and Henderson don't you?

Obviously Drinkwater isn't at Henderson's level (yet?) but I don't think Liam Moore is miles behind Stones. Moore just lacks the exposure.

If he keeps up his current form, he'll quickly outgrow us. Exceptional player.

[ScouseFox]

Obviously Drinkwater isn't at Henderson's level (yet?) but I don't think Liam Moore is miles behind Stones. Moore just lacks the exposure.

If he keeps up his current form, he'll quickly outgrow us. Exceptional player.

 

yeah i love leicester as much as the next poster (unless it's albert) but if he improves as much in the next 18 months as he has in the last he'll be way too good to play for us. 

[Grandad.]

yeah i love leicester as much as the next poster (unless it's albert) but if he improves as much in the next 18 months as he has in the last he'll be way too good to play for us. 

 

No I really like Leicester, I do. I know Liam personally as well, I think he is good but I don't think he is as good as a lot of you on here make him out to be, unfortunately I think he has fell into the 'hometown boy' poster boy, can't do anything wrong, throws himself in front of everything, fist pumps the crowd.. Frigging hell Liverpool have had loads of them, Flanagan was one of them and still is one of them, you love them even more because they're from your city and they know what the club and people are about. 

 

I'm undecided on Liam Moore, maybe moving to a club like Liverpool or Arsenal would develop him even more but from what I have seen of him already I don't think he will be as good as some of you are predicting. Very poor defending from him I thought for Arsenal's goal last weekend, completely stepped out, left Sanogo, Cazorla made him look foolish and Arsenal take the lead. Against Shrewsbury he was absolutely ran ragged by Collins and Vernon. Yes, he is still very young and I wish him all the best but I just don't think he is that good. I wouldn't be surprised if Wasilewski replaces him soon. 

 

A Liverpool player gets injured for England, in other news water is wet..

[ScouseFox]

start of last season i'd have agreed, i was confused why he got into the team and wasn't sure he was good enough to stay there. but he's clearly got better and better to the point where he has looked very comfortable against 3 of the best teams in the country. i had morgan/wasyl as my centre back partnership for the opening game in the prediction thread but no chance are we dropping either of our centre backs for a good while. 

 

for the arsenal goal morgan and moore stepped out to play an offside trap but someone else didn't, harsh to criticise there. 

 

he's an obvious improver, too. league one with brentford, solid. bit part player for us whilst making the play offs, solid. first team player for a team romping the league, solid. england under 21s, starting to make a name for himself so it seems. then premier league vs everton, chelsea and arsenal and he still looks like one of the better players on the park. i'd be amazed if he doesn't play for england one day, maybe not this season because england look doggo and need to win qualifiers, but next seasons pointless opening friendly, or the warm down friendlies post this season would be an obvious target as far as a call up is concerned. 

 

obviously being a local boy and going straight through lukaku in the first half of the opening game are things that aren't going to hold him back, either  

[AKCJ]

No I really like Leicester, I do. I know Liam personally as well, I think he is good but I don't think he is as good as a lot of you on here make him out to be, unfortunately I think he has fell into the 'hometown boy' poster boy, can't do anything wrong, throws himself in front of everything, fist pumps the crowd.. Frigging hell Liverpool have had loads of them, Flanagan was one of them and still is one of them, you love them even more because they're from your city and they know what the club and people are about. 

 

I'm undecided on Liam Moore, maybe moving to a club like Liverpool or Arsenal would develop him even more but from what I have seen of him already I don't think he will be as good as some of you are predicting. Very poor defending from him I thought for Arsenal's goal last weekend, completely stepped out, left Sanogo, Cazorla made him look foolish and Arsenal take the lead. Against Shrewsbury he was absolutely ran ragged by Collins and Vernon. Yes, he is still very young and I wish him all the best but I just don't think he is that good. I wouldn't be surprised if Wasilewski replaces him soon. 

 

A Liverpool player gets injured for England, in other news water is wet..

 

 

If he played for Liverpool you'd be on here waxing lyrical about how good he is and you know that you would.

 

Sterling being the prime example.

[Grandad.]

No because Sterling is a complete different case, I have said he is like Flanagan for us, we love him and think he is that bit better than he actually is because he is a local lad. Everytime he flies into someone the Anfield crowd shout that little bit louder than they would if it was Jose Enrique or Glen Johnson, that is just the way it is. Where I have knocked him? I said it was poor defending for the goal v Arsenal and that two Shrewsbury players ran him ragged, which they did. He has played well against Everton and Chelsea, but do I think he is anything better than any of the other young English centre backs? No. 

 

Scouse, they didn't step out playing offside mate, seriously go back and look, they both flew out trying to block what they thought was a Cazorla shot, both made to look a little daft. 

 

Yeah maybe he will get an England cap and if he does then fair play to him. 

Rodgers has had people watching Liam Moore but I doubt we would pursue that with Wisdom already out on loan who Rodgers seems to like. 

And if he was playing for Liverpool, you lot on here would be saying the exact same as me, it is purely because he is a Leicester player you think he is better than he actually is.  

[AKCJ]

No because Sterling is a complete different case, I have said he is like Flanagan for us, we love him and think he is that bit better than he actually is because he is a local lad. Everytime he flies into someone the Anfield crowd shout that little bit louder than they would if it was Jose Enrique or Glen Johnson, that is just the way it is. Where I have knocked him? I said it was poor defending for the goal v Arsenal and that two Shrewsbury players ran him ragged, which they did. He has played well against Everton and Chelsea, but do I think he is anything better than any of the other young English centre backs? No. 

 

Scouse, they didn't step out playing offside mate, seriously go back and look, they both flew out trying to block what they thought was a Cazorla shot, both made to look a little daft. 

 

Yeah maybe he will get an England cap and if he does then fair play to him. 

Rodgers has had people watching Liam Moore but I doubt we would pursue that with Wisdom already out on loan who Rodgers seems to like. 

And if he was playing for Liverpool, you lot on here would be saying the exact same as me, it is purely because he is a Leicester player you think he is better than he actually is.

 

 

It's not that he's a Leicester fan. It's because he's actually a decent player.

 

If you actually bothered to watch our games, even the highlights of our games, then you'd realise that he's probably an attribute away from being an England starter. Experience.

 

But no, you'd rather choose to base your opinion of a Capital One Cup game against Shrewsbury (playing with almost a completely unrecognizable team) and one goal where his 'mistake' wasn't the main cause of a goal against Champions League competition

 

So far he's made about 100m worth of Strikers look like headless chickens. You don't do that by 'pumping your fist to the crowd and flying into someone'.

[Dan]

I've tried to not use the fact he's local to cloud my view on him but even doing that I'm beginning to get quite excited by him as a prospect. He gets better every single season.

 

I still said though I think the first of this squad to play for England will be Matty James. He can attack and defend.

[ScouseFox]

i don't think he's any better than he is, at the moment i think he's shown he can handle the premier league (and even, partnered with wes, dominate strikers like lukaku and for large parts costa), and for a very young centre half with no pl experience that is some going. continue to improve and he'll move from england u21s to england squad, much like he's moved from championship to premier league imo. 

 

just watched a replay of the arsenal goal for the first time, you're probably right, i just assumed at the game that if your two centre halves end up with the striker behind them they're probably trying to catch him offside haha. still, one mistake (or clever bit of play by cazorla, depends which way you wanna take it) and other than that 3 very competent performances is what's getting people excited. 

 

good player, young, could become a very good player. talks of england caps right now are ahead of schedule but like i say i'd be very surprised if he didn't get one if we stay up. 

 

sterling is completely different because he's not been overhyped by anyone he is genuinely one of the best young players in the world and one of the most exciting attacking players in europe. 

[howlinmadmurfdoc]

It's not that he's a Leicester fan. It's because he's actually a decent player.

If you actually bothered to watch our games, even the highlights of our games, then you'd realise that he's probably an attribute away from being an England starter. Experience.

But no, you'd rather choose to base your opinion of a Capital One Cup game against Shrewsbury (playing with almost a completely unrecognizable team) and one goal where his 'mistake' wasn't the main cause of a goal against Champions League competition

So far he's made about 100m worth of Strikers look like headless chickens. You don't do that by 'pumping your fist to the crowd and flying into someone'.

Sssshhhhh don't tell anyone but Liam Moores really a Man U fan.

[Dan]

Name a defender in the league who hasn't made an error.