Russell sprout Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 Hello all, I have a colleague at work who has been accused of sexual harrasment,I know it's a pack of lies and he's agreed to move stores for while to let the dust settle,but as been told he won't be returning back to his store as agreed,he has just put in a grievance against how he feels let down by his employer and that even though she withdrew her allergation upon being interviewed,has had no disciplinary against her,whilst this is a living hell for the accused,he has done everything by the book,spoke with acas,cab etc,and joined a union,but doesn't know where all this will end up,serious advice please folks as this is someone's life.
Strokes Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 My advice is move on, sounds like a toxic environment.
johnny the fox Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 Hello all, I have a colleague at work who has been accused of sexual harrasment,I know it's a pack of lies and he's agreed to move stores for while to let the dust settle,but as been told he won't be returning back to his store as agreed,he has just put in a grievance against how he feels let down by his employer and that even though she withdrew her allergation upon being interviewed,has had no disciplinary against her,whilst this is a living hell for the accused,he has done everything by the book,spoke with acas,cab etc,and joined a union,but doesn't know where all this will end up,serious advice please folks as this is someone's life. Your colleague needs legal advice, not random opinions from lay people on here.. most solicitors do free surgeries where you can gain free advice on employment law, or it might be worth paying a small fee to get it...otherwise he needs to speak to his union .
StanSP Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 Not sure what else we can do? He's gone through all the processes and allegation has been dropped. Maybe it's best for him to move on and stay at the current store for the time being? Or find another job as quickly as possible to leave the current company?
Smudge Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 Your colleague needs legal advice, not random opinions from lay people on here.. most solicitors do free surgeries where you can gain free advice on employment law, or it might be worth paying a small fee to get it...otherwise he needs to speak to his union .Spot on
Larry_LCFC Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 "Your colleague" ... really? As has already been said, get proper legal advice. The last thing you need is advice from us lot, we'll probably get someone sacked.
Russell sprout Posted 11 October 2014 Author Posted 11 October 2014 "Your colleague" ... really? As has already been said, get proper legal advice. The last thing you need is advice from us lot, we'll probably get someone sacked. Fair enough, Thought ild ask the question as there's folk from all sorts of life on forums,but like 'my colleague' I'm no expert in law, Thanks for comments
hesapeepingtom Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 Hello all, I have a colleague at work who has been accused of sexual harrasment,I know it's a pack of lies and he's agreed to move stores for while to let the dust settle,but as been told he won't be returning back to his store as agreed,he has just put in a grievance against how he feels let down by his employer and that even though she withdrew her allergation upon being interviewed,has had no disciplinary against her,whilst this is a living hell for the accused,he has done everything by the book,spoke with acas,cab etc,and joined a union,but doesn't know where all this will end up,serious advice please folks as this is someone's life. There is no way I would drop this. I would take her to court for defamation of character or whatever it's called.far too many women get away with this just like la manga and then nothing happens to them after.surely falsely accusing some one of this ,should be treated as a major crime. It also makes you dubious of every case that happens which is a shame for real victims.
Guest MattP Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 If his Union aren't there giving him help and advice over this he shouldn't be paying them, this is exactly the reason you pay into it.
Russell sprout Posted 11 October 2014 Author Posted 11 October 2014 He's joined a union a couple of weeks ago,and put in a grievance yestaday,he's said he'll take it as far as he has to go if it means clearing his name.
yorkie1999 Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 There is no way I would drop this. I would take her to court for defamation of character or whatever it's called.far too many women get away with this just like la manga and then nothing happens to them after.surely falsely accusing some one of this ,should be treated as a major crime. It also makes you dubious of every case that happens which is a shame for real victims. Too true. Whether innocent or not, his employment record will always say there was an allegation of sexual harassment.
Russell sprout Posted 11 October 2014 Author Posted 11 October 2014 For the record aswell,she's made this allegation from 2 years ago,been shagging the boss,and not spoke to him for nearly a year over handbags at work,then makes this up, Our employer has said they will back him if he wants to take it further after 3 months,but that it will get 'thrown out' as there's no proof, But after 3 months he has discovered he cannot take them to a tribunal for how they hav'nt dealt with things so they had been playing there cards well until the grievance was made. Problem is I think our employer will make is life a misery for dragging there name through the mud, But he's had no choice.
MooseBreath Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 Go to the doctor, tell him/her what has happened and have a mini breakdown right there in the Dr's office. Get a sick note to be off from work with stress. In the meantime, lawyer up and prepare to throw the kitchen sink at the woman who made the false accusation, including a substantial claim for compensation based on defamation of character, loss of confidence, loss of earnings present and future, and whatever else you can think of. Hopefully win some money, then go back to work in a nice new car before quitting because you've got a new job.* *I am not a legal professional and none of this constitutes advice.
Rob1742 Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 It appears that this guy is seen on here as being wronged, however there are two sides to every story. My initial thoughts are if I was him I would get my head down and get on with my work. Could easily find himself without work, whether it is his fault or not and you try and explain your CV away at the next interview. Usually no smoke without fire, I would guess something however minor has kicked off and if I was him I would crack on rather than keep this hanging around.
jonthefox Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 Union! Join your union everybody Waste of time and money. Especially unison.
Russell sprout Posted 11 October 2014 Author Posted 11 October 2014 It appears that this guy is seen on here as being wronged, however there are two sides to every story. My initial thoughts are if I was him I would get my head down and get on with my work. Could easily find himself without work, whether it is his fault or not and you try and explain your CV away at the next interview. Usually no smoke without fire, I would guess something however minor has kicked off and if I was him I would crack on rather than keep this hanging around. He has cracked on with it,by making a grievance,To be fair to him he's has just got on with it for several weeks,but then why should he,I've put myself in his shoes and told him to fight it all the way,what grounds could they possible sack him on,daring to speak,though I do think he's at the point of no return where as it's going to be impossible for him to carry his job on a normal,and they'll pay him off.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 In this case, there appears to be only one option, and that is definitely to take legal advice. It also seems apparent that the female concerned has committed slander.
Russell sprout Posted 11 October 2014 Author Posted 11 October 2014 In this case, there appears to be only one option, and that is definitely to take legal advice. It also seems apparent that the female concerned has committed slander. I said that to him,but he's been told that slander is a civil matter and will need a few quid to pursue that,having seen the posts on here,I've advised him to pursue his grievance and get as much £ as he can out it,our employer hav'nt helped themselves and he need to hit them where it hurts.
Spiritwalker Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 If you join a union after an incident at work they are under no obligation to represent you on this matter. It's a bit like phoning up for house insurance after your house has burned down. That said many will still represent you, and if you want this matter resolved and remain with your current employer then imo this is your best option, legal reps are unlikely to be allowed come to your place of work and speak on your behalf to your employer. If however you feel that you no longer want to stay with this employer or the union refuses to represent you then seek professional legal advice many of which will not charge you a fee but take a cut of any compensation. Which ever option you choose you will need to do some leg work yourself, write down a detailed account of everything that has happened, try to time line this with dates and witnesses if possible. Keep it factual rather than opinions and hearsay. Good luck. When I say you, obviously I mean your friend.
Russell sprout Posted 11 October 2014 Author Posted 11 October 2014 If you join a union after an incident at work they are under no obligation to represent you on this matter. It's a bit like phoning up for house insurance after your house has burned down. That said many will still represent you, and if you want this matter resolved and remain with your current employer then imo this is your best option, legal reps are unlikely to be allowed come to your place of work and speak on your behalf to your employer. If however you feel that you no longer want to stay with this employer or the union refuses to represent you then seek professional legal advice many of which will not charge you a fee but take a cut of any compensation. Which ever option you choose you will need to do some leg work yourself, write down a detailed account of everything that has happened, try to time line this with dates and witnesses if possible. Keep it factual rather than opinions and hearsay. Good luck. When I say you, obviously I mean your friend. Thankyou for the advice,much appreciated
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