nettle Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Yeah in 1998. May as well get Howard Kendall or George Graham in. (I like Hoddle, I really do, but he is finished as a manager). Everyone is saying pulis don't like him plays long ball that would not suit our squad. I think someone like Hoddle would be a good fit just an opinion.
nettle Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Hoddle was brought in at QPR to introduce a three at the back system that was ditched after four matches and 9 goals conceded. He was awful at Wolves, mediocre at Spurs and his only good club jobs were at Swindon in 1993 and Southampton 13 years ago. Would be totally the wrong choice. He did ok at Chelsea and was pretty decent with England.
MHC Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Pearson is a better manager then Hoddle. The only option which would offer an improvement is Pulis. Going abroad would be a disaster, we need someone who knows the league. We would play the same style of football we do now, which I admit isn't exactly mouth watering, but the key difference would be us gaining points and seeing out narrow leads more often then we are doing. Pearson is playing the "Pulis style" and failing.
oxfordfox Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Pearson is a better manager then Hoddle. The only option which would offer an improvement is Pulis. Going abroad would be a disaster, we need someone who knows the league. We would play the same style of football we do now, which I admit isn't exactly mouth watering, but the key difference would be us gaining points and seeing out narrow leads more often then we are doing. Pearson is playing the "Pulis style" and failing. Not the 'Pulis style' as deployed at Palace last season.
The Blur Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 No I couldnt. The only names that would be of any interest to me would be Pulis, Sherwood/Ferdinand combo and if we could tempt him back to the Prem, Laudrup. Some people mentioned Hoddle andy first reaction was '**** right off' but the more I think about it, he could actually not be that bad of an option. He's obviously wanting to get back into management and whilst his spell at Wolves was un-productive, his record everywhere else is decent. To be honest though, as much as I dont see Pearson turning it around, i'm starting to think the owners are going to give him the season. Euuuurggh- why? He was not that great at Spurs.
Bettsj2 Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 ame="Bettsj2" post="3209038" timestamp="1417364878"] only just joined plus ulloa is probably better anyway I wasn't saying we should sign them, just that they were not a waste of money as they are better players than comparable ones in our squad.
Bettsj2 Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Euuuurggh- why? He was not that great at Spurs.Really? Win percentage of 59% not great?
Thracian Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 I guess it depends what you meant by "battlers suited to the Pulis philosophy". If you meant a short passing style and quick counter attacking then we are in complete agreement. Pulis stops oppponents playing. He deploys genuine hard-cases and makes life as uncomfortable for them as he can - physically, mentally and without letting up. There's no wilting violets in a Pulis side and any opponent who wants to dance on the ball is asking for trouble. Yes, when they get the bal there's at least some kind of attacking purpose and the weaponry to do some damage, quickly and without unnecessary elaboration. Basically Pulis knows what he wants and gets it. There's no sign of any kind of evolutionary progess which might lift a team beyond the functionally effective but he certainly deserves respect for his ways because, given the material he's had to work with, the ways have worked and quite dramatically at times. I'm not campaigning for a change but if one was made I'd not be against it. Now or later I don't think Pearson's shrewd enough tactically, nor some of the people around him. Even now we have too many basics that we don't do properly.
Dan Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Hoddle talks the right game, but would he be able to implement it to an extent it'll keep us up? That's a tough one, considering he's not had a managerial job in years.
Monsell1976 Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Don't want him here, and if he does come, should only be a short term answer. Don't care who is the manager, as long as they can get the best out of the players we have, and can get the results to at least give us a chance of staying up.
The Blur Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Really? Win percentage of 59% not great? I thought it was 50%? It is easy to get high winning percentage in first 20 or so matches but it gradually goes down. Pochettino has second best win percentage at the moment and AVB is 4th as well. Most of the managers who managed more than 100 games are lower in the table. Anyway win percentage does not tell the full picture- Bill Nicholoson is ninth in the table yet he is the most successful manager in their history. You only need to look at how likes of Lamela,Chadli and Kane has kicked on this season to see how influential Pochettino is. Sherwood can't get best out of them.
Master Fox Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 I fear Pearson's time is up. Big changes are imminent.
oxfordfox Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Pulis stops oppponents playing. He deploys genuine hard-cases and makes life as uncomfortable for them as he can - physically, mentally and without letting up. There's no wilting violets in a Pulis side and any opponent who wants to dance on the ball is asking for trouble. Yes, when they get the bal there's at least some kind of attacking purpose and the weaponry to do some damage, quickly and without unnecessary elaboration. Basically Pulis knows what he wants and gets it. There's no sign of any kind of evolutionary progess which might lift a team beyond the functionally effective but he certainly deserves respect for his ways because, given the material he's had to work with, the ways have worked and quite dramatically at times. I'm not campaigning for a change but if one was made I'd not be against it. Now or later I don't think Pearson's shrewd enough tactically, nor some of the people around him. Even now we have too many basics that we don't do properly. So do we agree or disagree? I'm not clear. Pulis keeps teams in the Premier League. Perason won't (in my opinion and given we are bottom of the table after a third of the season).
Donut Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 I havent read through the whole thread , so bear with me if my point has been raised. I think its a tradeoff between the immediate future, and the longterm future of the club. Pulis has an excellent record of getting the best of what he has at his disposal, and may well keep us up. But at what cost? the loss of a successful, close knit backroom team and scouting network for one. After keeping us up, would he be here for the long haul? would he be the man to bring youth through, improve the team? what if the worst came to the worst and we went down? WOuld Pulis get us back up? he got Stoke up by being a largely physical, tough to beat and well drilled professional outfit. I could probably suffer the immediate pain of a relegation with the knowledge the club is in good hands with Pearson, but in the immediate term, he looks like the man to take us down. So, would he be the man to lead another promotion push to the premiership where he would have failed once? The club is at a huge crossroads right now, and im personally not sure which way the owners will look at it. Id stick with Pearson personally, but then again i dont stand to lose money.
Stevosevic Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Lennon would toughen us up and knows how to get the most from smaller squads against superior teams in the champions league. He would come as well, not even had a transfer window at Bolton yet.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Some horrific shouts in here, I'm not even sure if they're trolls or not.
Corky Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Why would we want an up and coming Championship manager when we have the last season's best one currently in charge?
palace123 Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Palace fan in peace Pulis did well for us but bare in mind we had a a squad already built for playing counter attacking football we basically had players who love to defend, plus we were lucky to have good wingers, he only bought in 2 of his own players There is no guarantee he would be able to do the same with another squad of players, I doubt Cambiaso would ever play again. I went to the Palace Leicester game and I dont really see you as a Pulis side, you were half the size of our team and played alot more football. Be careful what you wish for, he'll use you like he did us.
Bunyip Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 'swearing does nothing to enforce your point' *tells someone to **** off' Clever. The missing word was " shoo" . Clever clogs.
jimmeh Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Pulis wouldn't join us because he can't run across the touchline to get to the dugout pre kick off
Gary Eatfood Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Palace fan in peace Pulis did well for us but bare in mind we had a a squad already built for playing counter attacking football we basically had players who love to defend, plus we were lucky to have good wingers, he only bought in 2 of his own players There is no guarantee he would be able to do the same with another squad of players, I doubt Cambiaso would ever play again. I went to the Palace Leicester game and I dont really see you as a Pulis side, you were half the size of our team and played alot more football. Be careful what you wish for, he'll use you like he did us. The best thing that happened to your lot last year was not Pulis coming in but Holloway leaving. Anyone could've looked like a genius after that clown.
palace123 Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 The best thing that happened to your lot last year was not Pulis coming in but Holloway leaving. Anyone could've looked like a genius after that clown. Wow that very true, surprised anyone outside palace fans would know that Holloway actually sat Damien Delaney down and told him to watch a barcelona video of them playing out from the back because thats what he wanted us to do! He was a complete clown.
Banks Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Wow that very true, surprised anyone outside palace fans would know that Holloway actually sat Damien Delaney down and told him to watch a barcelona video of them playing out from the back because thats what he wanted us to do! He was a complete clown. Damien Delaney, what a reject he was...
Asha Posted 30 November 2014 Posted 30 November 2014 Glen Hoddle lol What has he done this millennium?
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