Itsthejoeker Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 ok imagine Hammond crocks during United game, we still have Cambiasso and James for the next week, and potentially a better result due to his impact, and if 90 isn't possible then 70 then sub Substitute a central midfielder after 70 minutes for a sub par one?! This place would explode
LCFCCKEANO Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 All I was saying is he has disappointed me this season personally, and why, I still am loyal to him, just moreso to the club, and I am just trying to be fair here and say he has really ****ed up a fair few times this season
65RosesFox Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 because starting Hammond is taking a risk you utter moron. That probably would've stabilised us, have you seen our stats with an without deano It is when he's only just returning from injury, and possibly risk him being available for Palace, or do you know for certain he was 100% fit.
Babylon Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 You were doing it during the game... 'What did people expect against Man Utd anyway' etc... A dismissal, essentially, of all that was wrong with the set up. You've been doing it for years... Perhaps you should actually read the match thread then dear chap and find my several responses to you. Rather than jumping on an isolated post and completely getting the wrong end of the stick, read what I am quoting as it provides a rather important context. That particular reply was to someone who said Kramaric was rubbish and a waste of money. I believe I said how the hell can you judge after two games against United and Spurs away. To which you posted some scoffing reply, having clearly not read the post I was replying to. Unless of course you agree with him that Kramaric is indeed a waste of money and we should just get rid of him now. As for defending the setup, how many times do you actually need me to repeat that I did not agree with Vardy on the wing and I did not agree with two in the middle. I've literally posted it about a dozen times in the match thread and since.
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 All I was saying is he has disappointed me this season personally, and why, I still am loyal to him, just moreso to the club, and I am just trying to be fair here and say he has really ****ed up a fair few times this season Stop trying to defend yourself kidda. Yes he has. End of.
Finn Claw II Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Hammond and Hamer are the new messiahs - its like the SAS for blackburn but more the HAH. With them in the team we are laughing....
Itsthejoeker Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Stop trying to defend yourself kidda. Yes he has. End of. Defending his opinions is exactly what he should try to do. If he can't do that, then his opinions carry no weight.
HighPeakFox Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Why do people insist on saying 'end of'? Who the hell gave them that right?
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Why do people insist on saying 'end of'? Who the hell gave them that right? Because if anyone can argue that Pearson has not dropped some bloody major clangers this season, then it's all over. Rationale on the forum has died a death. It has ceased to be. Like Python's parrot.
Itsthejoeker Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Because if anyone can argue that Pearson has not dropped some bloody major clangers this season, then it's all over. Rationale on the forum has died a death. It has ceased to be. Like Python's parrot. I love how you perceive peoples posts in whatever way you like.
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 I love how you perceive peoples posts in whatever way you like. How am I percieving posts, you nincompoop... I've simply said Pearson has dropped major clangers. Cos he has. And anybody who says he ain't, ain't watching. Saturday being a good example.
inckley fox Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Because if anyone can argue that Pearson has not dropped some bloody major clangers this season, then it's all over. Rationale on the forum has died a death. It has ceased to be. Like Python's parrot. I think, in fairness, that a lot of people can see the mistakes he's making. It's the fact that they excuse them on the grounds that being bottom represents an achievement of sorts, or that we never expected any better or that our criticisms are probably worth nothing because we're only silly bloody football fans and know nothing. The excuses are even in place for if we go down. He'll still be the right guy because he learns fast, his record speaks for itself, what did we expect in the first place and so on. He could still end up doing a very reasonable job this season, but only if he does learn from his errors, and quick. But I don't see how anybody can mount a solid defence of Pearson, and case for him to continue, without acknowledging that some of the errors he's made have not been acceptable.
65RosesFox Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Because if anyone can argue that Pearson has not dropped some bloody major clangers this season, then it's all over. Rationale on the forum has died a death. It has ceased to be. Like Python's parrot. Same could be said for fans arguing it's a full gone conclusion that we are already relegated when we have 15 games to play and are only 3 points from safety.....
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Same could be said for fans arguing it's a full gone conclusion that we are already relegated when we have 15 games to play and are only 3 points from safety..... Absolutely right. Both extremes are dreadful behaviour.
Strokes Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 End of. END OF. I'm pretty sure you don't get to decide it's the end of the discussion just like that. Even if you are correct, rant over.
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 End of. END OF. I'm pretty sure you don't get to decide it's the end of the discussion just like that. Even if you are correct, rant over. I think on certain subjects, actually you do. To argue that Pearson hasn't made some tactical fook up's this season is as ridiculous as saying we are relegated already. Actually, end of.
MC Prussian Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 Learnt from his mistakes?!?! Please tell me Im not the only person on this forum that sees him constantly make the same mistakes. The number of poor team selections is ridiculous, the lack of any type of plan B is a joke and don't even get me started on his lack of understanding of playing players in their best positions!!! Cambiasso in a 2 = NO....Vardy/Nugent on the wing = do me a favour....De Laet at LB = ?!?! I was referring to his time in the Championship, we had our fair share of disappointments and it took him several seasons to rectify things. This is his first full stint a level above and he's still learning his trade and adapting. Pearson isn't a Premier League manager because before this season, he never actually truly managed in this division. Fact. I see Pearson oftentimes trying to work around shortcomings and coming up with what he perceives is the best starting XI. How often have we truly seen Vardy or Nugent deployed as wingers? How often has Cambiasso truly played in a two? Why do you think he put De Laet at LB? Does the thought of having Konchesky start fill you with more confidence? The beautiful thing about being a football fan is is that you can disagree with so many things - one week, you're right, the other, you're wrong. Looking back, I can remember fans being as impatient with Pearson when he first came to the club (or even when returned) as some are today. It's nothing new, so I wonder why those very same people are trying to make such a big fuss about it?
LCFCCKEANO Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 I was referring to his time in the Championship, we had our fair share of disappointments and it took him several seasons to rectify things. This is his first full stint a level above and he's still learning his trade and adapting. Pearson isn't a Premier League manager because before this season, he never actually truly managed in this division. Fact. I see Pearson oftentimes trying to work around shortcomings and coming up with what he perceives is the best starting XI. How often have we truly seen Vardy or Nugent deployed as wingers? How often has Cambiasso truly played in a two? Why do you think he put De Laet at LB? Does the thought of having Konchesky start fill you with more confidence? The beautiful thing about being a football fan is is that you can disagree with so many things - one week, you're right, the other, you're wrong. Looking back, I can remember fans being as impatient with Pearson when he first came to the club (or even when returned) as some are today. It's nothing new, so I wonder why those very same people are trying to make such a big fuss about it? He has had half a season to acclimatise, and I want him to stay but how long is too long to acclimatise? Koeman and Dyche have done so fairly sharpish, as did Pulis. He is good enough, but he has to show it now and really pull his finger out and show it, like he did at the end of last season, and stop some of the stupid mistakes.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 Because if anyone can argue that Pearson has not dropped some bloody major clangers this season, then it's all over. Rationale on the forum has died a death. It has ceased to be. Like Python's parrot. This
Babylon Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 Perhaps you should actually read the match thread then dear chap and find my several responses to you. Rather than jumping on an isolated post and completely getting the wrong end of the stick, read what I am quoting as it provides a rather important context. That particular reply was to someone who said Kramaric was rubbish and a waste of money. I believe I said how the hell can you judge after two games against United and Spurs away. To which you posted some scoffing reply, having clearly not read the post I was replying to. Unless of course you agree with him that Kramaric is indeed a waste of money and we should just get rid of him now. As for defending the setup, how many times do you actually need me to repeat that I did not agree with Vardy on the wing and I did not agree with two in the middle. I've literally posted it about a dozen times in the match thread and since. No need to apologise Col. I love how you perceive peoples posts in whatever way you like. Amen This Has s single person said he's not made a mistake? Errrrr nope. Don't get dragged into Col's land of make believe.
65RosesFox Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 Let's imagine that we brought Pulis in before Christmas and he had identical results to what Pearson has since then. A loss at home to Tottenham which we should've got something out of. We go away to Hull and get three points Go away to Liverpool and gain a point after going 2-0 down to two shocking deals. Beat Newcastle in the FA Cup Beat Villa at home 1-0 Lose to Stoke at home 1-0 after a dismal performance Get a last minute winner away at Tottenham in the FA Cup. Then lose 3-1 to Man U. Whilst during the window Pulis brings in one of his old players in Huth, who is a very experienced centre half. He manages to beat Chelsea to the signing of a hot prospect in Kramaric And brings in one of the most experienced goalkeepers in Schwarzer. Would all these morons claiming the season is all over be doing the same, and want Pulis sacked already or would they be saying how Pulis has turned it around. We're now only one win from safety whereas under Pearson we were 5 points. We're on a good cup run and have a good chance of getting to the Quarters. Plus with Mahrez coming back this week, as well as James we've got a real chance of staying up.....
CosbehFox Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 Well if we had Pulis here, we wouldn't have Kramaric (which regardless of how successful he is we will get some money for him) and we'd have Carlton Cole lining up alongside Jame Vardy (subject of a £5 million bid from Pulis) on Saturday.
Fox Ulike Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 I was referring to his time in the Championship, we had our fair share of disappointments and it took him several seasons to rectify things. This is his first full stint a level above and he's still learning his trade and adapting. Pearson isn't a Premier League manager because before this season, he never actually truly managed in this division. Fact. I see Pearson oftentimes trying to work around shortcomings and coming up with what he perceives is the best starting XI. How often have we truly seen Vardy or Nugent deployed as wingers? How often has Cambiasso truly played in a two? Why do you think he put De Laet at LB? Does the thought of having Konchesky start fill you with more confidence? The beautiful thing about being a football fan is is that you can disagree with so many things - one week, you're right, the other, you're wrong. Looking back, I can remember fans being as impatient with Pearson when he first came to the club (or even when returned) as some are today. It's nothing new, so I wonder why those very same people are trying to make such a big fuss about it? Yes but the trouble with that, is that Pearson doesn’t appear to be trying to adapt. The clangers he continues to drop is in trying out Championship tactics in the Premiership. In the Premiership, roles are much more specialised. In midfield (where Pearson continually messes up) you’ll have a range of players from David Silva to Lee Cattermole. Leon Britton to Stephen Naismith. Jon Walters and Yaya Toure. They are all ‘specialists’ in their roles… labels such as ‘midfielder’ really don’t mean much to players like this. They all perform a defined function for their team. Pearson just seems to have a blindness to this, and can’t see past a block of indistinguishable vanilla ‘midfielders’. He seems to think that you just plonk any two from Hammond, Cambiasso, Drinky, King and James in there, and they basically just all do the same job. Playing Jamie Vardy on the wing. That wouldn’t even work against most Championship sides. That probably worked when he played for Fleetwood in the Conference... But at Old Trafford poor Jamie is playing a position he has absolutely no competency in, and less knowledge. Hauling him off at half-time was an admission by Pearson how badly he'd fvcked that up. When Pearson shows any signs that he is actually trying to adapt, and follows the lead given by most of the other experienced Premiership managers in the way that they set their teams up.. maybe I’ll be a little more forgiving towards his continual bloopers. When’s he going to start trying to be a Premiership Manager?
BigMicky Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 Yes but the trouble with that, is that Pearson doesn’t appear to be trying to adapt. The clangers he continues to drop is in trying out Championship tactics in the Premiership. In the Premiership, roles are much more specialised. In midfield (where Pearson continually messes up) you’ll have a range of players from David Silva to Lee Cattermole. Leon Britton to Stephen Naismith. Jon Walters and Yaya Toure. They are all ‘specialists’ in their roles… labels such as ‘midfielder’ really don’t mean much to players like this. They all perform a defined function for their team. Pearson just seems to have a blindness to this, and can’t see past a block of indistinguishable vanilla ‘midfielders’. He seems to think that you just plonk any two from Hammond, Cambiasso, Drinky, King and James in there, and they basically just all do the same job. Playing Jamie Vardy on the wing. That wouldn’t even work against most Championship sides. That probably worked when he played for Fleetwood in the Conference... But at Old Trafford poor Jamie is playing a position he has absolutely no competency in, and less knowledge. Hauling him off at half-time was an admission by Pearson how badly he'd fvcked that up. When Pearson shows any signs that he is actually trying to adapt, and follows the lead given by most of the other experienced Premiership managers in the way that they set their teams up.. maybe I’ll be a little more forgiving towards his continual bloopers. When’s he going to start trying to be a Premiership Manager? Leon Britton hardly plays, Naismith plays behind Lukaku, Jon Walters leads the line, plays behind Crouch and can often be found playing as right sided "midfielder". Please do elaborate in how these 3 are specialist midfielders.
Fox Ulike Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 Leon Britton hardly plays, Naismith plays behind Lukaku, Jon Walters leads the line, plays behind Crouch and can often be found playing as right sided "midfielder". Please do elaborate in how these 3 are specialist midfielders. "When a wise man points at the moon, the fool looks only at the finger... " innit?
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