That has to be it. Pearson needs to go.

[Stadt]

Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

There are a few sensible Pearson out arguments but most of them are ridiculous and resort to name calling.

"Pearson is a championship manager."

Clearly more than good enough for the championship.

[the-blue-wildabeast]

Now we're in the land of make believe. Quite a few times this season he's picked the team that most people on here wanted before the game and we've still gone on to lose.

More often than not he hasnt though has he. We could sit and analize every game and in 90% of them most fans (who dont wear blue tinted we love pearson fashion specs) would say the 11/formation or both didnt give us the best chance of a result, which is surely the sole reason the muppet is employed? Also, he is the reason why we still dont have a decent left back or mobile creative midifielder in FEBUARY, but I guess I guess to some people he could tea bag you while asleep and still be manager of year in your clouded eyes.

[the-blue-wildabeast]

Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

There are a few sensible Pearson out arguments but most of them are ridiculous and resort to name calling.

"Pearson is a championship manager."

Clearly more than good enough for the championship.

We will find out next season if he was a one season wonder. Plenty of managers have won the championship/2nd division and done little else.

[MC Prussian]

More often than not he hasnt though has he. We could sit and analize every game and in 90% of them most fans (who dont wear blue tinted we love pearson fashion specs) would say the 11/formation or both didnt give us the best chance of a result, which is surely the sole reason the muppet is employed? Also, he is the reason why we still dont have a decent left back or mobile creative midifielder in FEBUARY, but I guess I guess to some people he could tea bag you while asleep and still be manager of year in your clouded eyes.

So, in essence you simply don't like the manager on a personal level. Everything else you're dwelling upon is sheer package to the parcel, including wild speculation and laughable generalizations.

 

Besides, the transfer window is still open and most active/hectic towards the very end.

[the-blue-wildabeast]

So, in essence you simply don't like the manager on a personal level. Everything else you're dwelling upon is sheer package to the parcel, including wild speculation and laughable generalizations.

 

Besides, the transfer window is still open and most active/hectic towards the very end.

Hes not the most likable of guys but I couldnt care less if he knew what he was doing on the pitch but if you would like to present any evidence that he does this season i am all ears, but I expect the silence to be deafening.

[GaelicFox]

Can't sign the big proven players in the league , I wonder is that Nigel or Budget

I'm not anti pearson , just pro a good hard look at what's happening on pitch and a better understand on why we are not improving the squad in depleted areas

[the-blue-wildabeast]

Can't sign the big proven players in the league , I wonder is that Nigel or Budget

I'm not anti pearson , just pro a good hard look at what's happening on pitch and a better understand on why we are not improving the squad in depleted areas

Why has he signed £18m of strikers without any ability in the team to create for them. Lets be honest, neither are going to pick the ball up and beat players like a sturridge so we need supply, but we have a decent forward line with a league 1 midfield at the minute. With such a poor central midfield its imperitive we have to play at least one from Mahrez, Knocky and Albrighton in each game as these are the few players we have that can make things happen, whether it be a run at defenders, a decent cross, a through ball. We have no one else except maybe cambiassio (Trys through balls) that create anything, and for far too many games we havent played these players resulting in defeat with little chance of winning. I also cant see why he maybe doesnt try 3 in central midield, with someone like Nugent or knocky in the more advanced support role with Drinky/Hammond/Cambiassio protecting the back four.

[Stadt]

We will find out next season if he was a one season wonder. Plenty of managers have won the championship/2nd division and done little else.

One season wonder? He's had 3 fantastic seasons with us.

[the-blue-wildabeast]

One season wonder? He's had 3 fantastic seasons with us.

One Championship promotion I meant. Lets be honest, the season before was hardly fantastic, he did his best cock it up then. Plenty of managers like Keane, Davies etc have won the championship, doesnt make them great managers does it, especially at this level.

[fuchsntf]

More often than not he hasnt though has he. We could sit and analize every game and in 90% of them most fans (who dont wear blue tinted we love pearson fashion specs) would say the 11/formation or both didnt give us the best chance of a result, which is surely the sole reason the muppet is employed? Also, he is the reason why we still dont have a decent left back or mobile creative midifielder in FEBUARY, but I guess I guess to some people he could tea bag you while asleep and still be manager of year in your clouded eyes.

AND YOU,!! With you crystal clear views, make your opinions the only ones that hold the gospel , and your selections would have us in the top 10.

One thing all fans forget, when your team is up to their necks..this manager and bb of the team got us promoted with room to spare, this so called muppet with this set of players, were successfull with tactics and players, they earnt their right, no argumument !! It has now proved they arent as players good enough to hold their own, and have at this level below avg, ball retention, and distribution.

Even with some extra bodies in the squad, I deny anyone to say they expected us to perform so poorly in so many games, not one manager should be held responsible for that...the players simple basics have disppeared especially from our midfield top players.Even I believe you yourself like me didnt expect top 12, but a struggle, but none expected the amount of poor poor performances, and this comes not from the manager but the players.Its these players

who had/have the chance in a life time to prove their PL qualities with a bad or good manager, so its the players blowing their chances, more than anybody else !!!

[Corky]

What is the right team though? 

 

If Pearson picked one side and stuck with it for games on end, even in defeat, he'd be accused of being predictable. Now he tinkers too much.

 

So:

 

Hamer

 

Simpson

Was

Wes

Konchesky

 

Albrighton

James

Hammond

Schlupp

 

Ulloa

Kramaric

 

Is that the right team? Nugent has been in a fairly decent run of form recently. De Laet or Konchesky left-back? When Mahrez comes back does he go straight back in because Albrighton has done nothing wrong? Should Knocky play on the wing or as a second striker? Does Cambiasso play?

 

We've had calls for Liam Moore to replace Wasilewski, for Morgan to be dropped. 

 

There is no right team because injuries, suspension, loss of form happen. Is that team guaranteed to be better than the others Pearson puts together if he selects it next week?

[the-blue-wildabeast]

AND YOU,!! With you crystal clear views, make your opinions the only ones that hold the gospel , and your selections would have us in the top 10.

One thing all fans forget, when your team is up to their necks..this manager and bb of the team got us promoted with room to spare, this so called muppet with this set of players, were successfull with tactics and players, they earnt their right, no argumument !! It has now proved they arent as players good enough to hold their own, and have at this level below avg, ball retention, and distribution.

Even with some extra bodies in the squad, I deny anyone to say they expected us to perform so poorly in so many games, not one manager should be held responsible for that...the players simple basics have disppeared especially from our midfield top players.Even I believe you yourself like me didnt expect top 12, but a struggle, but none expected the amount of poor poor performances, and this comes not from the manager but the players.Its these players

who had/have the chance in a life time to prove their PL qualities with a bad or good manager, so its the players blowing their chances, more than anybody else !!!

Carry on as we are then, it appears alot of city fans are happy with a manager doing his utmost to secure relagation. Thanks for your efforts Krammy, Cambiassio, Ulloe, Mahrez etc but we can all look forward to Kings battling qualitys at Millwall next season, brilliant.

[ALC Fox]

What is the right team though?

If Pearson picked one side and stuck with it for games on end, even in defeat, he'd be accused of being predictable. Now he tinkers too much.

So:

Hamer

Simpson

Was

Wes

Konchesky

Albrighton

James

Hammond

Schlupp

Ulloa

Kramaric

Is that the right team? Nugent has been in a fairly decent run of form recently. De Laet or Konchesky left-back? When Mahrez comes back does he go straight back in because Albrighton has done nothing wrong? Should Knocky play on the wing or as a second striker? Does Cambiasso play?

We've had calls for Liam Moore to replace Wasilewski, for Morgan to be dropped.

There is no right team because injuries, suspension, loss of form happen. Is that team guaranteed to be better than the others Pearson puts together if he selects it next week?

I agree with a lot of the sentiments here. Our squad was wonderfully equipped to win the Championship last season, but too often this season we've demonstrated a lack of Premier League quality. I don't think it matters what XI we field from our current squad, we will get outclassed on occasion. Yesterday was one of them, and it shouldn't be a surprise given the array of talent at Man Utd's disposal, no matter what their current form is.

I've been heartened by our recent form, and I think Pearson has learned a lot from our poor form earlier in the season. But, we've got a run of fixtures now where points will be very difficult to come by, and I don't think Pearson should be castigated if we even get 0 from them. He deserves the season at least, and even a chance to go again if we do go down.

[LCFCSOULBOY]

This topic should be renamed to IS PEARSON BIGGER THAN THE CLUB? .honestly feel like this is becoming an honest question with the attitude of many supporting his performances this season.It is looking as though the guy can do nothing wrong and would still support him in the lower leagues.

[Stadt]

One Championship promotion I meant. Lets be honest, the season before was hardly fantastic, he did his best cock it up then. Plenty of managers like Keane, Davies etc have won the championship, doesnt make them great managers does it, especially at this level.

The three I were talking about were League 1, 09-10 and last year.

[inckley fox]

I have not taken him seriously for ages.

I think MC was one of the ones who claimed Cambiasso was still 'world class'?

Apologies if I got that wrong, but if he did, then any notion of sincerity goes out the window.

 

Oh I think Cambiasso is still a good player, light years ahead of Drinkwater or King, but he isn't necessarily what we most need there, even more so if he can't manage a whole game week-in week-out.

[inckley fox]

Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

There are a few sensible Pearson out arguments but most of them are ridiculous and resort to name calling.

"Pearson is a championship manager."

Clearly more than good enough for the championship.

 

I'm not sure he was 'damned' if he picked Albrighton, our most creative player over recent games, or Hamer who had conceded one goal in open play from four matches.

 

As for being 'more than good enough for the championship', surely that would make him an adequate PL manager? He hasn't shown that yet and, if we go down, there will have to be more evidence of that being the case if we're to keep him on. Unless you're of the view that we fire him instantly should he take us up again.

[BlueSi13]

This topic should be renamed to IS PEARSON BIGGER THAN THE CLUB? .honestly feel like this is becoming an honest question with the attitude of many supporting his performances this season.It is looking as though the guy can do nothing wrong and would still support him in the lower leagues.

 

Of course he isn't.  But IMO he is the one person that is responsible for giving us anything to cheer about since the O'Neill days.  He has earned his shot at the Premier League and if it doesn't end well then he is proven to be the right man to take us right back up, where no doubt he will rectify the mistakes he made this year (I.e.  Trusting the players he came up with).  

 

The other options is sack him and replace him and the whole coaching setup with.............?  Who exactly?

[inckley fox]

This topic should be renamed to IS PEARSON BIGGER THAN THE CLUB? .honestly feel like this is becoming an honest question with the attitude of many supporting his performances this season.It is looking as though the guy can do nothing wrong and would still support him in the lower leagues.

 

Well, when people say things like 'I'd rather go down with Pearson than stay up without him' / 'he should be our manager no matter what' and cheer his name even when he's made a handful of nonsensical decisions which cost us (causing fights in the process with those who are understandably fed up of these nonsensical decisions), and - if people on here are anything to go by - refer to anybody who appreciate his increasingly self-destructive decisions as an ungrateful moron, then yes, you really do have to wonder.

[Fox Ulike]

What is the right team though? 

 

If Pearson picked one side and stuck with it for games on end, even in defeat, he'd be accused of being predictable. Now he tinkers too much.

 

So:

 

Hamer

 

Simpson

Was

Wes

Konchesky

 

Albrighton

James

Hammond

Schlupp

 

Ulloa

Kramaric

 

Is that the right team? Nugent has been in a fairly decent run of form recently. De Laet or Konchesky left-back? When Mahrez comes back does he go straight back in because Albrighton has done nothing wrong? Should Knocky play on the wing or as a second striker? Does Cambiasso play?

 

We've had calls for Liam Moore to replace Wasilewski, for Morgan to be dropped. 

 

There is no right team because injuries, suspension, loss of form happen. Is that team guaranteed to be better than the others Pearson puts together if he selects it next week?

Vardy on the wing.

That alone is enough to justify the harsh criticism of Pearson.

[inckley fox]

Of course he isn't.  But IMO he is the one person that is responsible for giving us anything to cheer about since the O'Neill days.  He has earned his shot at the Premier League and if it doesn't end well then he is proven to be the right man to take us right back up, where no doubt he will rectify the mistakes he made this year (I.e.  Trusting the players he came up with).  

 

The other options is sack him and replace him and the whole coaching setup with.............?  Who exactly?

 

Well, there were some very viable alternatives a couple of months ago who, naturally, aren't there now. The next sensible time to look at this is probably the summer, although I am wondering whether Pearson's preference for certain players over others is as much based on personalities (the constant talk about 'faith' in players is worrying at times, because they're certainly not showing the same degree of determination to keep him in his post as he is to keep them in theirs), as it is on performance on the pitch and - in the process - serves to be totally counter-productive. And I'm wondering, based on his interviews and the apparent work-rate of the players, whether he is really setting the bar high enough.

 

It's not so silly to wonder whether somebody else might do a lot better in those two regards (i.e., the level of effort we set as the minimum and the players we choose to apply it). I'm leaning towards Pearson right now, but he has been very poor this season. If we're to stay up he needs to learn his lesson fast and demand far more of these players on a far more consistent basis. It's no good repeatedly saying 'I manage this club in the same way no matter what', because something clearly needs to change.

 

The harsh reality is that if we're looking at Pearson purely as a PL manager, as we should (we didn't, after all, get off Levein's back because he'd been great in the SPL, or Sven's because he'd been great in Serie A, or Taylor because he'd proven himself in the third tier), then he's down there with the worst we've had right now, not only in terms of results but in terms of the hilarity of his decision-making, and the lack of energy and enterprise of his sides. If we want to be a PL side some day, then either he gets better fast or we have to bring a new manager with us next time around.

[BlueSi13]

Well, there were some very viable alternatives a couple of months ago who, naturally, aren't there now. The next sensible time to look at this is probably the summer, although I am wondering whether Pearson's preference for certain players over others is as much based on personalities (the constant talk about 'faith' in players is worrying at times, because they're certainly not showing the same degree of determination to keep him in his post as he is to keep them in theirs), as it is on performance on the pitch and - in the process - serves to be totally counter-productive. And I'm wondering, based on his interviews and the apparent work-rate of the players, whether he is really setting the bar high enough.

 

It's not so silly to wonder whether somebody else might do a lot better in those two regards (i.e., the level of effort we set as the minimum and the players we choose to apply it). I'm leaning towards Pearson right now, but he has been very poor this season. If we're to stay up he needs to learn his lesson fast and demand far more of these players on a far more consistent basis. It's no good repeatedly saying 'I manage this club in the same way no matter what', because something clearly needs to change.

 

The harsh reality is that if we're looking at Pearson purely as a PL manager, as we should (we didn't, after all, get off Levein's back because he'd been great in the SPL, or Sven's because he'd been great in Serie A, or Taylor because he'd proven himself in the third tier), then he's down there with the worst we've had right now, not only in terms of results but in terms of the hilarity of his decision-making, and the lack of energy and enterprise of his sides. If we want to be a PL side some day, then either he gets better fast or we have to bring a new manager with us next time around.

Were there?  Like who?  Apart from the footballing anti-Christ Pulis (who I doubt would have wanted to risk his so called 'reputation' here anyway) I can't think of anybody else.

 

He has made mistakes this year yes, but the fact is, not a single player from last year has made the step up.  Is that his fault?  I don't think so.  He will know now that having such faith in those that delivered previous successes will not be the way to take the club forward necessarily .  

 

Also, a couple of games aside, I personally cannot fault the application of the players, the quality (or lack of it) yes, but effort no.

[NewburyFox]

Were there?  Like who?  Apart from the footballing anti-Christ Pulis (who I doubt would have wanted to risk his so called 'reputation' here anyway) I can't think of anybody else.

 

He has made mistakes this year yes, but the fact is, not a single player from last year has made the step up.  Is that his fault?  I don't think so.  He will know now that having such faith in those that delivered previous successes will not be the way to take the club forward necessarily .  

 

Also, a couple of games aside, I personally cannot fault the application of the players, the quality (or lack of it) yes, but effort no.

 

Riyad, Wasyl and James to an extent have all stepped up. I don't think the problem is such that the majority haven't stepped up, I think it's that we didn't build on what we had with the necessary PL experience. Whose fault that is I have no idea, but it meant that we were relying on them all stepping up, rather than surrounding our better players from the Championship with experienced PL performances, thus giving them a better chance of making the step up.

[LanguedocFox]

This topic should be renamed to IS PEARSON BIGGER THAN THE CLUB? .honestly feel like this is becoming an honest question with the attitude of many supporting his performances this season.It is looking as though the guy can do nothing wrong and would still support him in the lower leagues.

 

No it's not. Every manager gets things wrong from time to time, but he's got much more right than he has got wrong. The "Pearson Out" mob - who have been around ever since he came to the club, FFS - seem to ignore what happened before he became our manager, and what happened after Mandaric eased him out the first time round. Get rid of Pearson and who are you going to get in his place? I hear Neil Walnut is available. Or maybe we could go for Paul Ince. Or Alan Irvine.

 

It's worth repeating that we are not being cut adrift, and we are better than at least three or four other teams in the division - look at what happened to Villa today, and to QPR, Hull, West Brom and Burnley yesterday.

[inckley fox]

Were there?  Like who?  Apart from the footballing anti-Christ Pulis (who I doubt would have wanted to risk his so called 'reputation' here anyway) I can't think of anybody else.

 

He has made mistakes this year yes, but the fact is, not a single player from last year has made the step up.  Is that his fault?  I don't think so.  He will know now that having such faith in those that delivered previous successes will not be the way to take the club forward necessarily .  

 

Also, a couple of games aside, I personally cannot fault the application of the players, the quality (or lack of it) yes, but effort no.

 

That's a very big 'apart from', isn't it? A manager who kept two other sides up in a similar position to ours, who was available free of compensation.

 

Or the one who had won titles in Scotland, had Champions League experience (and some success) and has now had an instant impact at Bolton. Or the one who'd had plenty of success in this division and went to a side struggling in the Spanish league at around that time.

 

And do you really think we applied ourselves properly against Palace, in the second half against Burnley, against Swansea, Newcastle (league), Stoke (home), Manchester United (away), West Ham? I thought we were comfortably out-worked and out-fought in those games; pulling out of 50-50s or not committing properly for them, failing to offer movement, to get upfield to support attacks or back to help the defence, to close men down or track our man. I think we've been hopelessly lacking in physical and effort-based aspects of the game on far too many occasions.

 

If it were all down to quality, then we'd be comfortably above Burnley, and probably QPR, Palace and Villa too. And that's where the work-rate of your players, along with the quality of your coaches and your manager, tend to make the difference.