Benguin Posted 16 March 2015 Share Posted 16 March 2015 Or you could put it like this........ You bought a laptop and it had huge potential, unfortunately it had rubbish virus protection so you brought in some protection that could help. The protection was great and after work your laptop was operating perfectly. Once your laptop reached a great height of performance the software updated and for some reason that you couldn't figure out, it wouldn't allow you to watch the porn you had grown use to. It's been months and you've managed to put a few proxys in to get a few crafty wanks in but are now severely frustrated. Would you remove the software? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannythefox Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 He'd be the first name on any championship team list for a manager if we got rid of him whats the point. Pearson knows the championship as good as anyone and hopefully he'll guide us back if we go down, IMO Robinson has more than Pearson to answer for but we'll never find that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 Seems more people have swung to seeing him leave than stay now. Either be it now or end of the season. Not seeing many say they would prefer him to stay From what I gather, there's more people becoming critical of him. But wanting to see him sacked? Behave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teblin Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 From what I gather, there's more people becoming critical of him. But wanting to see him sacked? Behave. Wanting him sacked maybe not. But I think there is more now that would be indifferent to him getting sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 or you could put it like this. Your football club get a manager to take over a team around the play offs in the championship. After two seasons he gets them promoted with stacks of money and pulling power due to the size of club and ambition (it seems at the time) of new owners. He then fails miserably at his attempt at management in the premiership. Do you sack him, or fanny about like a rabbit in the headlights until you're finally relegated having lost the feel good factor around the owners, club, players and supporters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 or you could put it like this. Your football club get a manager to take over a team around the play offs in the championship. After two seasons he gets them promoted with stacks of money and pulling power due to the size of club and ambition (it seems at the time) of new owners. He then fails miserably at his attempt at management in the premiership. Do you sack him, or fanny about like a rabbit in the headlights until you're finally relegated having lost the feel good factor around the owners, club, players and supporters? We would have "pulling power" if we could establish ourselves in the top flight for a longer period of time - right now, we're just one out of three newly-promoted teams to the Premier League with little to no pedigree (and some fans with overinflated expectations) and an inexperienced manager at the helm. Ambition only gets you to a certain length of the way, you also need talent and an eye for talent to complement that. You see one first full season in the Premier League as a "miserable failure"? What were you expecting? A miracle worker? A semi-god? I'd rather sack a portion of our fans, with the excessive and excruciating whining and moaning on display on here over the past few days (or even longer than that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 We would have "pulling power" if we could establish ourselves in the top flight for a longer period of time - right now, we're just one out of three newly-promoted teams to the Premier League with little to no pedigree (and some fans with overinflated expectations) angth of the way, you also need talent and an eye for talent to complement that. You see one first full season in the Premier League as a "miserable failure"? What were you expecting? A miracle worker? A semi-god? and an inexperienced manager at the helm. Why hamstring yourself as a club if this is a disadvantage then remove it. Why work with a handicap before you start??? I'd rather sack a portion of our fans, with the excessive and excruciating whining and moaning on display on here over the past few days (or even longer than that). Me too .... I'd get rid of the ones with no ambition, who are happy to see turgid football played to see out 2-0 losses game in game out and still stand happy clapping the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 We would have "pulling power" if we could establish ourselves in the top flight for a longer period of time - right now, we're just one out of three newly-promoted teams to the Premier League with little to no pedigree (and some fans with overinflated expectations) and an inexperienced manager at the helm. Ambition only gets you to a certain length of the way, you also need talent and an eye for talent to complement that. You see one first full season in the Premier League as a "miserable failure"? What were you expecting? A miracle worker? A semi-god? I'd rather sack a portion of our fans, with the excessive and excruciating whining and moaning on display on here over the past few days (or even longer than that). Bottom of the league for most of the season, playing mostly awful football, with a manager happy if we don't lose by many ..... YES. I see that as abject failure. In fact out of 20 teams, being 20th and not even close to 19th is MISERABLE FAILURE. What did you expect??? Us to be worse than this??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 and an inexperienced manager at the helm. Why hamstring yourself as a club if this is a disadvantage then remove it. Why work with a handicap before you start??? I'd rather sack a portion of our fans, with the excessive and excruciating whining and moaning on display on here over the past few days (or even longer than that). Me too .... I'd get rid of the ones with no ambition, who are happy to see turgid football played to see out 2-0 losses game in game out and still stand happy clapping the manager. I don't know - you'll have to ask the owners about their decisions to stick with Pearson last summer. Right now, it's all hindsight. We all share ambition - some fans just have no patience at all when it comes establishing oneself in the Premier League. They want so much at once. (see "culture of entitlement" for further reading). Not being able to achieve that goal instantly (straight upon promotion) was and still is a pretty realistic scenario. I find it hard to believe so few fans could see that coming or tolerate it with our initial setup (starting last summer). You had hope or high hopes last year and now that you see the dream collapsing, you're just turning sour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 Bottom of the league for most of the season, playing mostly awful football, with a manager happy if we don't lose by many ..... YES. I see that as abject failure. In fact out of 20 teams, being 20th and not even close to 19th is MISERABLE FAILURE. What did you expect??? Us to be worse than this??????? I expected us to put in more fight and trying to maintain the fighting spirit that saw us through last season. But for various reasons, that evaporated quickly: Inexperienced manager inexperienced players Experienced players coming up with horrendous and costly individual mistakes Inexperienced owners Burnley at home An ever-changing makeshift defense Odd substitutions here and there So, there's a few to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 I don't know - you'll have to ask the owners about their decisions to stick with Pearson last summer. Right now, it's all hindsight. We all share ambition - some fans just have no patience at all when it comes establishing oneself in the Premier League. They want so much at once. (see "culture of entitlement" for further reading). Not being able to achieve that goal instantly (straight upon promotion) was and still is a pretty realistic scenario. I find it hard to believe so few fans could see that coming or tolerate it with our initial setup (starting last summer). You had hope or high hopes last year and now that you see the dream collapsing, you're just turning sour. I had no hope after November and limited hope before that that NP would cut it in the premier league. I'm not turning sour ... I am massively disappointed in the way that we have accepted relegation almost from the point that we got promoted and decide to not spend enough money, not make the hard decision when it was going wrong ... and now that people can still defend abject failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 I expected us to put in more fight and trying to maintain the fighting spirit that saw us through last season. But for various reasons, that evaporated quickly: Inexperienced manager inexperienced players Experienced players coming up with horrendous and costly individual mistakes Inexperienced owners Burnley at home An ever-changing makeshift defense Odd substitutions here and there So, there's a few to choose from. Inexperienced manager inexperienced players Experienced players coming up with horrendous and costly individual mistakes Burnley at home An ever-changing makeshift defense Odd substitutions here and there = Poor Manager. (The one that you are defending!!!) Inexperienced ownersWho should have sacked the poor manager ages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 I don't know - you'll have to ask the owners about their decisions to stick with Pearson last summer. Right now, it's all hindsight. We all share ambition - some fans just have no patience at all when it comes establishing oneself in the Premier League. They want so much at once. (see "culture of entitlement" for further reading). Not being able to achieve that goal instantly (straight upon promotion) was and still is a pretty realistic scenario. I find it hard to believe so few fans could see that coming or tolerate it with our initial setup (starting last summer). You had hope or high hopes last year and now that you see the dream collapsing, you're just turning sour. I expected that we would spend the season ahead of QPR and Burnley so we only needed to be better than one other team.As no other team getting promoted with more than 100 points had ever been relegated I expected that with improvements we would be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsell1976 Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 **** sake is he not been sacked yet, have the owners got no bollocks to do it or what. If Pearson was a cat, he's surely used up his nine life's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 I had no hope after November and limited hope before that that NP would cut it in the premier league. I'm not turning sour ... I am massively disappointed in the way that we have accepted relegation almost from the point that we got promoted and decide to not spend enough money, not make the hard decision when it was going wrong ... and now that people can still defend abject failure. But you did have tremendous expectations last summer, didn't you? The amount of narrow defeats and the shifts the players have put in for most part to me suggests that we've never ever truly "accepted relegation" straight from the start. Spending huge chunks of money on players can also easily backfire - when you don't achieve safety, that is. Then you're faced with an excessive wage bill in the Championship - and look where that got Fulham, for instance. We may be able to discuss this "abject failure" you're talking about in the summer, in the months following May. Up until then, it's pure conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpaM Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 Bottom of the league for most of the season, playing mostly awful football, with a manager happy if we don't lose by many ..... YES. I see that as abject failure. In fact out of 20 teams, being 20th and not even close to 19th is MISERABLE FAILURE. What did you expect??? Us to be worse than this??????? Norwich were 15th this time last season, ended up getting relegated Sunderland were 19th, ended up staying up, their season wasnt a miserable failure I'll considerer it a miserable failure when we are relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingray Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 We would have "pulling power" if we could establish ourselves in the top flight for a longer period of time - right now, we're just one out of three newly-promoted teams to the Premier League with little to no pedigree (and some fans with overinflated expectations) and an inexperienced manager at the helm. Ambition only gets you to a certain length of the way, you also need talent and an eye for talent to complement that. You see one first full season in the Premier League as a "miserable failure"? What were you expecting? A miracle worker? A semi-god? I'd rather sack a portion of our fans, with the excessive and excruciating whining and moaning on display on here over the past few days (or even longer than that). Utterly misguided and delusional. Pearson has failed. Miserably. You're like one of those Japanese soldiers they find in the jungle fighting WW2 fifty years after it finished. PEARSON is finished, he's lost the plot, had a breakdown, assaults players and insults the press, picks fights with people he can't win (Lineker) and should have been sacked months ago. Get over it. The club needs to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverdaz Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 Utterly misguided and delusional. Pearson has failed. Miserably. You're like one of those Japanese soldiers they find in the jungle fighting WW2 fifty years after it finished. PEARSON is finished, he's lost the plot, had a breakdown, assaults players and insults the press, picks fights with people he can't win (Lineker) and should have been sacked months ago. Get over it. The club needs to move on. Or if rumours are too be believed NP doesnt actually pick the team this would make sense as to why he hasnt been sacked yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 Utterly misguided and delusional. Pearson has failed. Miserably. You're like one of those Japanese soldiers they find in the jungle fighting WW2 fifty years after it finished. PEARSON is finished, he's lost the plot, had a breakdown, assaults players and insults the press, picks fights with people he can't win (Lineker) and should have been sacked months ago. Get over it. The club needs to move on. Dear almighty, the imagination goes wild with this one... The difference between me and that Japanese soldier is that I'm not alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 But you did have tremendous expectations last summer, didn't you? The amount of narrow defeats and the shifts the players have put in for most part to me suggests that we've never ever truly "accepted relegation" straight from the start. Spending huge chunks of money on players can also easily backfire - when you don't achieve safety, that is. Then you're faced with an excessive wage bill in the Championship - and look where that got Fulham, for instance. We may be able to discuss this "abject failure" you're talking about in the summer, in the months following May. Up until then, it's pure conjecture. I had similar hope to Hackney Fox in his previous response .... That we'd be better than the other tow promoted teams and that we'd easily be better than the poorest current premier league side so would avoid relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 I had similar hope to Hackney Fox in his previous response .... That we'd be better than the other tow promoted teams and that we'd easily be better than the poorest current premier league side so would avoid relegation. This reads like a blog story from May/June 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 Dear almighty, the imagination goes wild with this one... The difference between me and that Japanese soldier is that I'm not alone. No there's a small unit of war-blind FT posters huddled together in a bush using up their well past their sell-by date weapons. Waiting for the inevitable and the order to stop fighting from Commander Pearson as he get's his white hanky out and is carted off in the back of an unmarked white van with two nice doctors either side of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karljohn Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 **** sake is he not been sacked yet, have the owners got no bollocks to do it or what. If Pearson was a cat, he's surely used up his nine life's. Can only assume he's got too close to them and its now the equivalent of telling your best mate to fook off and die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 This reads like a blog story from May/June 2015. I don't think I need a time machine to see what this element of the future holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 17 March 2015 Share Posted 17 March 2015 the grass is always greener but in this case, what we have is looking so brown that im not sure it could be much worse. as far as your gf is concerned - if this were the norwich forum, she probably would be your mother ! There would be no probably if it was the Ipswich forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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