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For all we've been battered, they haven't created that much from open play, which means the defensive shape has been ok. I just can't understand that for about the last 5 managers nobody can sort out our issues from set pieces

God I miss Vestegaard standing on the ball for 10 minutes before anyone closed him down

Maybe not the position we need most urgently, but I've always really liked him when I've seen him. Good age with resale value. This makes more sense to me than some of the others we've been linked with

While it isn't the greatest look to be doing deals like this with mid table teams in the same division, I think the club's strategy will be just about trying to find a way to stay up this year while keeping the finances in check. If that means having to hold your nose and develop a player for somebody else then so be it. On the otherhand, the fact that somebody at the club had to leak it to the journalist that we want 3-4 more signings whilst announcing this one probably tells you that the club knows this won't go down very well with the fans

I've always really liked him as a player and wanted us to go after him 4 years ago when we could offer European football. His best days are probably behind him but wouldn't be at all surprised to see him as a regular starter rather than a back up like some people are thinking

While I do think that overall him leaving is bad for the football club, I find it hard to get too bothered about it. I guess it sort of mimics his football philosophy in that way, it was all very methodical and clinical, but just lacked emotional attachment to the fans. It might work for Chelsea, but from a football fan's point of view, having Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea all playing pretty much the same way isn't good for the league

No chance the board will go for Moyes. They'd be ripping up their whole philosophy to go for him. Don't think Cooper fits either. Potter has been linked to England so can see him assessing his options after the euros.

It won't happen, but I'd like to see them try to push KDH out to the right and bring Kel or Cannon in as a no 10 to partner Vardy or Daka. Scrap the inverted fullback idea and have Wilf sit deeper so the fullbacks can get forward more.

They made that a proper ugly game and it worked for them. Watching that performance from our attacking players tonight and I think Enzo has done an unbelievable job to get this lot on the brink of automatic promotion. Mavididi and KDH have been so poor in the second half of the season

We were spending £1m a week more than we generated, the wages alone were 116% of turnover, the average wage was £90k a week. You can stick your head in the clouds as much as you want, I think 'fans' have a right to be pretty pissed off at the way our club has been run.

I don't know those are the reasons but that's what I've taken from the statements made. They may be holding something back but the biggest issue they seem to have is the technicality around who punishes us. Who knows, they may have found a loophole to exploit but from my uneducated point of view, this seems pretty weak. And it shouldn't take away from the complete mismanagement of the finances. I remember a few years ago that concerns were raised about our wages to turnover ratio but rather than get it under control, we seem to have continued to hand out contracts like we were dealing with monopoly money

Does anybody know what our mitigation reasons are? From what I've read they seem to be: 1. We weren't expecting to get relegated having finished 5th twice and 8th in the previous seasons. 2. We don't think we should be being punished by both the PL and EFL. 3. The whole system is unfair. These seem to be alot weaker than the reasons Everton have given. 1 is just poor running of the club, 2 is a technicality, and 3 is a non starter given that 19 out of 20 clubs voted it through. On top of that, we can't even claim cooperation now were trying to take legal action against them. I've a feeling our deduction is gonna be bigger than all of those given so far

But this was our model and apart from 21/22, we did sell a big player every year. The problems have come when we put squad players on ridiculous wages and then haven't been able to shift them. I bet agents couldn't believe their luck at the contracts we were dishing out

I would get this argument if the losses were down to player signings. But our net spend over over 9 PL seasons is around -£190m, or around -£20m per season. That's more than sustainable considering the revenue we would have been bringing in from the success we had. What has been completely unsustainable is the wage structure at the club. I dread to think of the size of the contracts we must have been giving out to get in this much of a mess. So we can blame the rules as much as we want, the financial mismanagement of those handing out the contracts is verging on criminal

Always the way. Players always seem to get better on the bench in the minds of fans. As bad as Fatawu and Mavididi have been and as much as I love Albrighton, I really don't think this would improve the team

Maybe. But those inadequacies were there at the start of the season as well so I don't think that's why it's changed

1. Injuries to Ndidi and Ricardo came at a bad time. 2. Winks' form seems to have dipped alot. 3. Opposition teams nullifying the threat of our wingers. 4. Missing too many chances. 5. Bad luck. 6. Things happening off the pitch doesn't create a good feeling around the club.

I didn't think Maresca was who this football club needed when he was appointed and I never changed my mind even when we were walking it. But this thread is reactionary nonsense. It would be the true sign of a basket case club if we were to change manager now

It's very frustrating when Mads has the ball in his hands with opposition players out of position and we have no desire to counter attack. Happened a couple of times today. I go back to that game against West Brom where Maresca seemed a bit annoyed after the game that we'd scored a couple of counter attacking goals and said it's not something they work on. It doesn't make sense to me when it seems to suit the strengths of the attacking players we have

The only thing Vardy offers over the other strikers is his finishing. If that's gone then we have to start with someone else

Much better this second half. It feels like it's coming. Faes has been really good after the dodgy start

Better this last 5-10 mins

Not a subscriber to the athletic so I can't read the article and I know headlines don't often accurately reflect what is said in the piece, but I would suggest there have been lots of signs that vardy has slowed down in the last couple of seasons

Showed some good fight but I thought Hull were the better side today. They looked alot fitter than us as well. Not quite sure what the instructions have been this last couple of games, they seem to have gone alot more direct but it's all looked pretty desperate without much of a plan behind it at times

While this does seem to be a technicality, the important part for me from the ruling was where the EFL argued that we have not disputed that we will be in breach of the upper loss threshold for 23/24. I'm slightly confused about why we would be looking to make enemies of the EFL on a technicality while also trying to get them to be lenient on the substantive point