EnglishOxide Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 I love how everybody thinks they knew the solution to our problems before Nige resolved them (not that they are resolved, the last 3 games have still been very tight) Its bollocks and is just a nonsense excuse to try and discredit the work he does.
Guybino Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 I've noticed alot of posters calling for the sack even if with stay up "Joined: day-month-2015".
Guest Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 I've noticed alot of posters calling for the sack even if with stay up "Joined: day-month-2015". Stringer looking for content again?
Gubbins Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 If we survive he stays and we pray he doesn't make such a pigs ear of it next season but if we go down he's surely got to go. This is the weakest premiership there has been in years, possibly ever and hel have failed to keep us in it. Frankly hel deserve the sack.
The Doctor Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 If we survive he stays and we pray he doesn't make such a pigs ear of it next season but if we go down he's surely got to go. This is the weakest premiership there has been in years, possibly ever and hel have failed to keep us in it. Frankly hel deserve the sack. And you'll appoint who to get us back? Pearson has shown repeatedly in the past that he's the best man for the job in the championship , you're cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Gubbins Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 And you'll appoint who to get us back? Pearson has shown repeatedly in the past that he's the best man for the job in the championship , you're cutting off your nose to spite your face. I would argue that 2 good seasons out of 5 in that division is not what most people would call repeatedly. As it stands Warburton who I would have as his replacement if we went down, is halfway to Pearsons total in just one attempt.
The Doctor Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 I would argue that 2 good seasons out of 5 in that division is not what most people would call repeatedly. As it stands Warburton who I would have as his replacement if we went down, is halfway to Pearsons total in just one attempt. 3 out of 3 full seasons with us in the top 6 at that level says otherwise. He's clearly a very good championship manager, only the sort of person who needs a drip-tray on their keyboard would argue against that.
foxfanazer Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 3 out of 3 full seasons with us in the top 6 at that level says otherwise. He's clearly a very good championship manager, only the sort of person who needs a drip-tray on their keyboard would argue against that. its unbelievable isn't it!
Guest MattP Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 3 out of 3 full seasons with us in the top 6 at that level says otherwise. He's clearly a very good championship manager, only the sort of person who needs a drip-tray on their keyboard would argue against that. Another brain cell and they would need watering twice a day.
Gubbins Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 3 out of 3 full seasons with us in the top 6 at that level says otherwise. He's clearly a very good championship manager, only the sort of person who needs a drip-tray on their keyboard would argue against that. Sorry forgot his mid table season at Hull isn't to be mentioned and that you can't talk about his first season back with us without using the phrases 'Svens mess' or 'wasn't his team'. I personally can't look back on the 12/13 season with much fondness even if we did scrape into the top 6. Also your original post didn't describe Pearson as merely a good championship manager (and he is but then so is Billy Davies and Colin) but as the best man for the job. I don't necessarily think he is.
Guest Col city fan Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 Another brain cell and they would need watering twice a day. Of course Pearson is a very good Championship manager. But we are a Prem side. Let's hope he proves to be a very good Prem manager too. At this moment in time that's all that matters.
The Doctor Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 Sorry forgot his mid table season at Hull isn't to be mentioned and that you can't talk about his first season back with us without using the phrases 'Svens mess' or 'wasn't his team'. I personally can't look back on the 12/13 season with much fondness even if we did scrape into the top 6. Also your original post didn't describe Pearson as merely a good championship manager (and he is but then so is Billy Davies and Colin) but as the best man for the job. I don't necessarily think he is. It was a mess from Sven - he had an imbalanced team with only one winger (Dyer) and a lot of players who didn't want to be here but for Sven and the money (Fernandes, Johnson). His record with Hull is pretty irrelevant to here; or should we get Holloway back because he was a success with Plymouth and Blackpool? The point is - he's had three full championship seasons with us, he's delivered 3 top 6 finishes. Is he a premiership manager? Possibly, the last two games he's shown signs of learning and adapting to this division - but who better to get us back out of the championship than a man who has never failed to finish outside the top 6 given a full season with us? Of course Pearson is a very good Championship manager. But we are a Prem side. Let's hope he proves to be a very good Prem manager too. At this moment in time that's all that matters. But the point was that he's a very good championship manager and would be a good choice for the job if we fail to stay up. Obviously, if come October we're just going backwards, it'll be time to start looking elsewhere, but he's shown he's a very good championship manager - sacking him is very much a case of putting punishing him for this rather than considering the future.
MC Prussian Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 *Counts the hours until someone pops up with the allegedly sensible suggestion of Jürgen Klopp as the next City manager*
Monsell1976 Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 *Counts the hours until someone pops up with the allegedly sensible suggestion of Jürgen Klopp as the next City manager*Klopp reckon he'd come
Babylon Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 Sorry forgot his mid table season at Hull isn't to be mentioned and that you can't talk about his first season back with us without using the phrases 'Svens mess' or 'wasn't his team'. I personally can't look back on the 12/13 season with much fondness even if we did scrape into the top 6. Oh you can mention Hull, so long as you also mention he had to completely remould their team and cut costs. The Hull fans were not happy he left and that says all you need to know about the job he'd started there. We may have "scraped" into the playoffs, but we'd also been in the top two or three for a very large chunk of the season, we'd witnessed some great football (look back at the high scoring games!)with a young exciting team. Yes we had an awful run, but there were a lot of positives that season and it was a lot better than what we'd seen for the previous few years.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 People who harp on about that bad run when we scraped in to the Playoffs, really? Because we'd really be in the position we are now had we sacked him then and got someone else in? It's possible but the last 10 years tell me otherwise, hard to believe we'd of broke 100 points with anyone else last year, or have the belief we do now with anyone else and have such a chance at safety. Need to get it through your skulls that we have no divine right to be a Premier League team, and if we are to stay up this year it'll be a hell of an achievement by everyone at the club.
Monsell1976 Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 People who harp on about that bad run when we scraped in to the Playoffs, really? Because we'd really be in the position we are now had we sacked him then and got someone else in? It's possible but the last 10 years tell me otherwise, hard to believe we'd of broke 100 points with anyone else last year, or have the belief we do now with anyone else and have such a chance at safety. Need to get it through your skulls that we have no divine right to be a Premier League team, and if we are to stay up this year it'll be a hell of an achievement by everyone at the club. Are you a fortune teller, how do you know we wouldn't be where we are now or better, if we had sacked pearson back then.This is the argument that the pro pearson fans annoys me with, nobody knows who the manager would have been, or how successful he would have been, and then talk like pearson is the only option. Season before last he had a mixed bag, from good to poor, last season a very good one, this season a very poor one. I accept and appreciate that pearson got us in the premier league, but that doesn't mean there isn't better options, if like this season he doesn't perform well, and getting us to the premier league doesn't give him the divine right to stay in charge, no matter what.
EnglishOxide Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 The trap you fall into again and again is suggesting there are better options without telling us who they are. Pochettino was a one off. Historically, plucking some foreign coach from nowhere and plunging them into the spotlight rarely works. Wouldn't you rather we stayed up with Pearson and progressed as a club with him (which technically we would have done regardless of our finish this season)? People say players and managers have no loyalty these days but some fans are far worse and will gamble on instant success at any cost. Pearson is your manager. The players support him. The owner supports him. They want success under him. It seems some fans don't.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 I just think to expect a different manager to of got us promoted last season, considering the team would of been ripped to bits and we'd of been starting all over again, is highly improbable. And to of achieved 102 points and given us our best season in a very long time much, much more improbable, bordering on the impossible. Surely to think otherwise is simply pie in the sky? Who is saying he should stay in charge no matter what? I'm not, you're just plucking things out the air there. We're in a position where we have a good chance at safety, anyone who was expecting us to be comfortable this year and not be in a relegation fight is a prat. And how, exactly, do you know we'd of been better off sacking Pearson back then? I think history tells us the odds are in Pearsons favour in this instance, to not appreciate what he's done for the club and where we are now compared to where we were when he too over just makes me question why some people support the club, or football in general, at all. Is it literally just to wind yourselves up over little things, and find things to moan about and make yourselves unhappy? It just baffles me some people can be so negative and seemingly spiteful towards their club, the owners, manager, players and other fans.
Monsell1976 Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 The trap you fall into again and again is suggesting there are better options without telling us who they are. Pochettino was a one off. Historically, plucking some foreign coach from nowhere and plunging them into the spotlight rarely works. Wouldn't you rather we stayed up with Pearson and progressed as a club with him (which technically we would have done regardless of our finish this season)? People say players and managers have no loyalty these days but some fans are far worse and will gamble on instant success at any cost. Pearson is your manager. The players support him. The owner supports him. They want success under him. It seems some fans don't. Pearson was a relative unknown as a manager before coming to us, yes a coach, caretaker, and lower leagues.So to say name, names is pretty pointless because they would be shot down by pearson's supporters, the Brentford manager has been mentioned, but again his name will be shot down. For the good of the club, pearson needs to be the better option, as he is rumoured to be on a long expensive contract, but if he doesn't work out, there will be options out their who could do his job, he isn't the only manager out there. You talk about loyalty, other than call him in here, fans have backed him home and away, even when we couldn't get a result for long periods of time. Other than lay red carpet out for him, I don't think the fans could be moe loyal, many clubs fans would show nowhere near the patients city fans have.
The Railway Man Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 Keep whatever happens, love the guy and couldn't think of a bloke I'd rather have here than him.
Monsell1976 Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 I just think to expect a different manager to of got us promoted last season, considering the team would of been ripped to bits and we'd of been starting all over again, is highly improbable. And to of achieved 102 points and given us our best season in a very long time much, much more improbable, bordering on the impossible. Surely to think otherwise is simply pie in the sky? Who is saying he should stay in charge no matter what? I'm not, you're just plucking things out the air there. We're in a position where we have a good chance at safety, anyone who was expecting us to be comfortable this year and not be in a relegation fight is a prat. And how, exactly, do you know we'd of been better off sacking Pearson back then? I think history tells us the odds are in Pearsons favour in this instance, to not appreciate what he's done for the club and where we are now compared to where we were when he too over just makes me question why some people support the club, or football in general, at all. Is it literally just to wind yourselves up over little things, and find things to moan about and make yourselves unhappy? It just baffles me some people can be so negative and seemingly spiteful towards their club, the owners, manager, players and other fans.I'm guessing this is in reply to me, first of all I haven't been spiteful to the owners, manager or club.I love the club, have respect for what the owners are trying to achieve, and not a fan of pearson, for a few reasons, but no spite. Nobody expected to win the league last season, could he do it again, you guess is as good as mine. Did anybody expect anything but a relegation battle, no I don't believe they did. Did people expect to have the bad results like this season, probaly not as bad, didn't expect not to see where the next win was coming from, didn't expect us to be so cautious, and didn't expect to be below qpr and burnley, and propping up the league most of the season. Let's not get it twisted, the last two wins have lifted spirits, and that why I go to follow city, not to expect to get beat and go on long barren runs, and have nothing to cheer about. I expected a season of ups and downs, but it's mainly been a season of downs. I just hope pearson holds his nerve and see's the job through, and fight to keep us up, because for me we only joined the relegation battle at Spurs, before that it seemed like a for gone conclusion, with little or no positive results on the board.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 *Counts the hours until someone pops up with the allegedly sensible suggestion of Jürgen Klopp as the next City manager* He would be a good capture, but I doubt he would come to lowly Leicester, if we survive.
Jacnah Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 I wonder if we can finally put the Pearson haters in context. After all this time there are still 80% + respondents want him to stay; presumably with an acknowledgement that there are flaws etc. Just because they (the haters) are loud persistent and vitriolic, clearly doesn't mean they represent mainstream views
Leicester_Numan Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 I just think to expect a different manager to of got us promoted last season, considering the team would of been ripped to bits and we'd of been starting all over again, is highly improbable. And to of achieved 102 points and given us our best season in a very long time much, much more improbable, bordering on the impossible. Surely to think otherwise is simply pie in the sky? Who is saying he should stay in charge no matter what? I'm not, you're just plucking things out the air there. We're in a position where we have a good chance at safety, anyone who was expecting us to be comfortable this year and not be in a relegation fight is a prat. And how, exactly, do you know we'd of been better off sacking Pearson back then? I think history tells us the odds are in Pearsons favour in this instance, to not appreciate what he's done for the club and where we are now compared to where we were when he too over just makes me question why some people support the club, or football in general, at all. Is it literally just to wind yourselves up over little things, and find things to moan about and make yourselves unhappy? It just baffles me some people can be so negative and seemingly spiteful towards their club, the owners, manager, players and other fans. It always makes me smile/wince when I read posts like this, you're clearly not unintelligent, can spell and use punctuation, but, you and others then ruin the whole post by using of instead of have. I know it confuses people when the contractions could've and would've are used in speech as they sound like could of and would of but otherwise intelligent posters really should have learnt by now that could of and would of make no bloody sense whatsoever and the biggest problem with this post is the use of 'of' instead of 'have' without could or would in front of it. Sorry for the moan folks but please take note. It tends to ruin perfectly good posts which others then don't take seriously.
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