Donut Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 You mean as in if one of us can look into the future and know that the alternative will be better for us than Pearson? Then yes you will have a good case for getting rid whatever happens. Pochettino was a better manager than Adkins, so that decision was vindicated. If a manager has a seasoned track record, or has made an exciting introduction into the top level and is available, it would be smart surely?
Donut Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 But that's a huge gamble. Sven has a better CV than Pearson, doesn't mean he can do a better job at this football club at this particular time. If he keeps us up there should be no thought of getting rid. Everything Nigel does is part of a structured plan for this football club in terms of its current progression and the future, which has been bought into by the owners who have invested heavily in the future (Training Ground, Academy, Stadium etc.) Why gamble on someone who may be better, may be worse when we have someone already who has so far not failed to achieve any of his aims at the club? Its a calculated decision. Of course, decisions can go wrong and leave you with egg on your face. Id possibly argue that Sven had a better overall CV, but not the required skill set for the championship. Likewise, Sousa didnt at the time he was manager, but has shown he can manage at a champions league level with decent effectiveness. It needs to be the right match for the situation and not purely past record, but past record is a part of the overall decision.
Donut Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 People are still falling for Donut's wummery. You don't actually believe him do you? Edit; Got my names mixed up (-: Certainly no one makes a specific point of following me around like you do, which is quite sad on your behalf.
AKCJ Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 Its a calculated decision. Of course, decisions can go wrong and leave you with egg on your face. Id possibly argue that Sven had a better overall CV, but not the required skill set for the championship. Likewise, Sousa didnt at the time he was manager, but has shown he can manage at a champions league level with decent effectiveness. It needs to be the right match for the situation and not purely past record, but past record is a part of the overall decision. Wrong, unsurprisingly. The manager needs to fit the club and it's players and Nigel Pearson is a better fit for Leicester City than anybody. Sven and Sousa failed because they didn't have the players that fit their styles. Nige does and he's proving it.
Donut Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 Wrong, unsurprisingly. The manager needs to fit the club and it's players and Nigel Pearson is a better fit for Leicester City than anybody. Sven and Sousa failed because they didn't have the players that fit their styles. Nige does and he's proving it. And i disagree with your opinion. Which creates a source of anger in you that forces you to dig up every post i make.
AKCJ Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 Certainly no one makes a specific point of following me around like you do, which is quite sad on your behalf. I enjoy pointing out shit posts. Hence your posts end up taking a vast proportion of my FoxesTalk browsing time
whoareyaaa Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 Sack him whatever happens. Too many mistakes being repeated. Shown no improvement as a manager over this season. We've only gone to attack mode because we had no other option, a decent manager wouldn't have tried to just sit back and not concede like he's done. you have never said one positive word about Pearson its all Negative you clearly have a problem with the man himself because his records are not questionable. Infact I remember arguing with you about this the last time he was up for the sacking, you know the season before we got promoted? and he's still HERE and your still MOANING!!!!!!! have you not got anything better to do? does he really irritate you that much
Donut Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 I enjoy pointing out shit posts. Hence your posts end up taking a vast proportion of my FoxesTalk browsing time I have my own opinions, some of which on some issues are shared by others. Unlike me, you clearly have a personal vendetta thats all. Stick to giving your opinions, and leave the personal stuff out of it.
sdb Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 Yes & yes. One thing i've learnt over the last 20 years is that LCFC and NP are a far better combination than 99% of other club and manager.
Gerard Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 YES most deffinately, best LCFC manager sinse O'NEILL The best manager since O'Neill? I'd have to agree but who would come second and third in that competition? That's like saying Leicester City are the best team in the county.
AKCJ Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 And i disagree with your opinion. Which creates a source of anger in you that forces you to dig up every post i make. Riveting point old chap. Which creates a source of anger in you that forces you to dig up every post i make. Do you actually think that? Bless
whoareyaaa Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 And yes it this answer to both questions give the bloke a 10 year contract!! The best manager since O'Neill? I'd have to agree but who would come second and third in that competition? That's like saying Leicester City are the best team in the county. Micky Adams?
Donut Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 Riveting point old chap. Do you actually think that? Bless If i make a point on Pearson's management as i see it, i can guarantee that within 10 mins, youll show up. I dont see you quote anyone else, so id like to know what your personal problem is.
AKCJ Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 If i make a point on Pearson's management as i see it, i can guarantee that within 10 mins, youll show up. I dont see you quote anyone else, so id like to know what your personal problem is. Do you honestly think I have a problem with you on a personal level? I just think your views on Pearson are ****ing barmy. Grow a thicker skin sunshine
Donut Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 Do you honestly think I have a problem with you on a personal level? I just think your views on Pearson are ****ing barmy. Grow a thicker skin sunshine On the basis that you quote me relentlessly for no apparent reason, yes i do.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 Nigel controls nearly all of the footballing aspects of the club; this is his squad, his staff and his method of running the shop. If he is successful, which he has been in the past and with recent results there is a good chance of continuing as such, you'd be absolute idiot to force him to leave. Someone else will believe in him and he'll build their club from the bottom up instead, overtaking us in the process.
AKCJ Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 On the basis that you quote me relentlessly for no apparent reason, yes i do. Deary me.
biggs Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 The recent results arent about tactically learning anything. Hmmm, im losing at half time in a game i absolutely have to win, because we are staring relegation in the face. What should i do? Any fan with any kind of footballing knowledge whatsoever would have seen West Brom making their chances and look to exploit their lack of pace and players out of position at full backs, and take more risks going forward. He changed to the West Ham system, fair play. But its hardly earth shattering brilliance to work out you are losing in a game you need to win and therefore take more risks going forward is it. Its what the situation dictated. What other option is there? Apparently we see things differently. I'd say tactically over the season, he's made some horrendous changes, no changes or changes that have come too late. Lately, however, and not just the past two games, I've seen better game management from him and believe he is learning what it takes to get the job done.
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 13 April 2015 Posted 13 April 2015 Where is the "Don't know, not made my mind up yet" button?
teblin Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 A bit like vardy, maybe Pearson is starting to adapt to life in the top flight?
seenitall Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 It always happens when Nige strings a couple of results together - everyone (nearly) wants him to stay. I want City to do well and if he keeps us up, even though I can't abide his team selections, feel he favours under performers for way too long and have felt that his reappointment held us back for two seasons, he will probably get to stay on. Let's face it, it will be a massive achievement staying up full stop, to do it with a great escape and nail biting end to the season will surely be worthy of another go for Nige?
foxyfocker Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Pearson's got to stay in charge next season regardless. If we go down - he's proved he can achieve promotion from the Championship. If we stay up - he's proved he can survive in the premier league. When you look at the replacement options it's a no brainer: Mackay, Curbishley, Arry! Even if O'Neil or Liniker were interested I'd stick with Big Nige
Guest MattP Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Stay whatever. He's showing serious signs again of rectifying his mistakes and finding a way to win matches, to do so is not only a serious sign of ability, self-reflection and self-motivation but at the current time also a sign of being able to do so under some severe pressure. For a young manager even more impressive. He must be a really good boss to work for as well, I can't think of many other managers that would still have been able to install the belief into the players that he has despite being bottom all season, on the wrong end of so many bad pieces of luck or iffy decisions whilst being cut adrift to the tune of 7,8,9 points at times. While he's in charge of this football club I know the players will care about the shirt they are wearing and will run their arse off for our cause, that's something that's extremely important to me as a supporter and when you see teams like Man City, Sunderland and Newcastle whose players don't seem to give a shit you realise just how hard that is to achieve in this day and age. I worry about the sanity of people who think he should be dismissed if we stay up, this is a man who seems to ne able to learn from his mistakes and take us to a new level every time he looks in trouble.
foxfanazer Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Yes to both! If he keeps us up he has once agaim proven his doubters wrong. If we go down he could be in trouble but I honestly can't think of anyone I'd rather have that is realistic
ALC Fox Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 It seems I'm with the majority in saying keep him in either scenario. There's a lot to be said for stability at a club. Arsenal will qualify for the Champions League for 18 successive seasons despite not winning anything for 10 years and having to shoulder the expense of building a new stadium befitting of one of the country's (and Europe's) top teams. Swansea do it slightly differently and have a stable set-up which new managers with shared philosophies/ideologies can slot into and be successful. By repeatedly firing and hiring managers a club can, at best, only be hoping for a short-term fix. And the most common practice of either firing all or most of the coaching staff, or having them resign, and replacing them with brand new staff is just playing Russian Roulette with a club's future. Pearson will learn from his experiences. He learnt from our woeful dip in form the season before last and he'll learn from a Premier League season. Whether we stay up or go down, I think he can take us forward. I could be wrong, but that's what I think.
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