Confirmed: Ranieri new manager

[BoneDog]

I feel all exotic and continental all of a sudden. Thanks to the Claudio.

 

JUST ONE CORNETTOOOOOOOO GIVE IT TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[FantasticMrFox]

It's all done. Not best choice, but not the worst. Time to get behind the team (and the board) and Let's 'ave it! Time will tell....

[ImBlue]

typical tabloid shite - all true but missing the key points to balance it out. 1 liners re his successes followed by whole paragraphs stating he was unsuccessful and sacked but not stating that success was winning the league and 2nd place was failure.

The problem with this tabloid dross is that people actually believe what they read without checking the facts and leave with the perception the writer wants you to leave with rather than just presenting the facts and letting the readers form their own perception

Put perfectly.

[EnglishOxide]

Its gonna be a bit of a culture which for old Claudio as we play Mansfield, Lincoln, Burton, Rotherham and Birmingham in pre season.

[sylofox]

No doubt the people writing him off, are people that are bitter about Pearson.. No manager (Other than O'Neill (Who is a less successful manager)) would have made these people happy!

You are plastic.

you think Pearsons record is better than MON?

 

I was never anti Pearson But MON's record is better he done it in the prem and 2 cups.

I backed Nige when most gave up but his record away from football is poor.

 

If he can't handle that he can not do football in the prem.

Sad he has gone just want a club that can do prem.

[ImBlue]

You are plastic.

you think Pearsons record is better than MON?

I was never anti Pearson But MON's record is better he done it in the prem and 2 cups.

I backed Nige when most gave up but his record away from football is poor.

If he can't handle that he can not do football in the prem.

Sad he has gone just want a club that can do prem.

I think he was stating ranieri having a better CV than O'Neill, nothing to do with Pearson,

[BoneDog]

I obviously want The Claud to do well for obvious reasons, but now I even want him to do even weller to quieten down the slaters in the press and doubting fans.

 

COME ON WHERE ARE YOU LETS BE HAVIN IT

[ImBlue]

Its gonna be a bit of a culture which for old Claudio as we play Mansfield, Lincoln, Burton, Rotherham and Birmingham in pre season.

He played Leicester while at Monaco! He won't mind!

[dylanlegend]

typical tabloid shite - all true but missing the key points to balance it out. 1 liners re his successes followed by whole paragraphs stating he was unsuccessful and sacked but not stating that success was winning the league and 2nd place was failure.

The problem with this tabloid dross is that people actually believe what they read without checking the facts and leave with the perception the writer wants you to leave with rather than just presenting the facts and letting the readers form their own perception

Exactly what my Greek mates Stavros and Theo said after reading the article... It certainty worked out well for them in the end... Boy are the DM eating their words now

[Hack]

I wondered that. They made a point of mentioning Ranieri's previous connections to Walsh and Cambiasso. Would be good if that meant that they were hopeful of retaining them....but who compiles such profiles, I don't know. Might not be someone who'd have that level of knowledge.

 

Ah, well! In the absence of meaningful information, I disagreed with the Pearson sacking, but "The King is Dead, Long Live the King!" and all that. Ranieri now deserves a fair crack of the whip and our support, until such time as he shows that he doesn't deserve it.....hopefully that time never comes.

 

My main hope now is that he's not been brought in to buy in big names and massively overhaul the squad. He's bound to want to make 1 or 2 changes, but hopefully building on NP's foundations and improving them, maintaining the progression and squad morale - and making a few selective improvements. 

 

We'll be able to tell a lot from the transfer business (in and out) that he does - or tries to do - over the next few weeks. Lots of ins and out will support the idea that the owners wanted a big name to buy in high-profile players to boost the KP image. The retention of a lot of the existing squad will suggest that the owners just fell out with NP and deemed Ranieri the best man to take things forward.

 

Thanks a million to NP - and good luck for your future career (probably won't need it). Good luck, Tinkerman - hope you don't need the luck and don't tinker too much! COYB 

From his managing history, he has never ripped a team apart and bring in lot's of so called big names.  Just look at his history.  Yes, he has had money to spend and mostly has spent it well.  But in all the clubs he has been at he has used largely the squad in place and has turned nearly all in to top 5 or 6 teams from lower level teams.

 

For those that are against this appointment, I for the life of me don't know what they were expecting.  If it is because Nigel got fired, I get that being a reason to be upset, but to not be excited or if not excited at least pleased that we have the highest achieving and highest profile manager in club history, bar none.  All that have managed the team to what we determine success were almost novices and made their name with.  It can be argued that Sven was/is a bigger name, but the way Sven works and Claudio works is very very different.  This is not Sven 2.0.

 

Those who are complaining are those that can't be helped without professional support I think they are clinically depressed and typify the Whinging POM. 

[Bagworthblue]

Exactly what my Greek mates Stavros and Theo said after reading the article... It certainty worked out well for them in the end... Boy are the DM eating their words now

 

yeah agree - let's base our perception of a long long club management career on 4 games for a Greek National side in turmoil where he probably got all of 10 days in total with players he had little room for manoevre in choosing.

[Hack]

Hopefully certain people like Dangerous Tiger won't be around for a few days; this should be celebrated, as who would've imagined we acquired a internationally-renowned manager (seriously) like Claudio?

 

We had Martin Allen, Levein etc not so long ago...

 

 

Celebrate the moment.

DT is all for this appointment he raved about it on page 7 I think.  Good to See.  I haven't seen what Tuna has said on Ranirei yet.

[BoneDog]

Hopefully certain people like Dangerous Tiger won't be around for a few days; this should be celebrated, as who would've imagined we acquired a internationally-renowned manager (seriously) like Claudio?

We had Martin Allen, Levein etc not so long ago...

Celebrate the moment.

 

That reminds me, I plus 1'd this, but more for the celebratory nature, and not because I don't want the DT to post.

 

Personally I enjoy quite a few DT posts, especially when he goes in 'ard.

[Bagworthblue]

You know what chaps I feel compelled to say this

 

Whether you loved him (like me) or loathed him, Pearson is gone

Whether you think he would have continued to succeed at Leicester of fail, he is gone

Whether you wanted O'Neill, Lennon, Hiddink, Klopp, that's not happened

Whether you feel Ranieri is past it, incapable, a failure or a success in the past, he is here!!

 

I for one am happy with the appointment but equally the jury is out a little and time will tell

 

Ranieri is our immediate / short / medium? / long term? future and what has happened to us and him in the past is now just that - in the past

 

 

A new Chapter of the LCFC epic has just been opened. Ranieri/LCFC combo will make it's own history from this point forwards so lets stop looking back, asking what-if, deciding he will fail before we even kick a ball and get behind him and the team

 

Let's hope he shuts up those idiots on tv and Radio who utter his name as the new boss of [deliberate pause and tone change] Leicester !

 

Let's remember that 30k home and 3 - 5k away supporters made shitloads of noise and played a massive part in keeping us up last season and irrespective of the manager, if that atmosphere is recreated, our chances of success are far greater than if we decide we will fail before we even start.

 

I truly hope Ranieri takes us to the next level. Let's put the past behind us and go forwards with excitement at what might be rather than convincing ourselves it will all be doom and gloom!!!

 

someone write him a song ffs - that would be a start   

[Far Post Gerry]

From his managing history, he has never ripped a team apart and bring in lot's of so called big names. Just look at his history. Yes, he has had money to spend and mostly has spent it well.

That's good to hear. I'm sure (or at least i hope) the owners would be sensible/smart enough to understand the value of continuity, and wanted a manager who would build on what we've already got, rather than ripping it up and starting again. Hopefully that includes keeping the back room staff too.

If Ranieri can target a few top quality additions each year, without losing the spirit of the team, we'll do well. I'm cautiously optimistic.

[Hack]

You know what chaps I feel compelled to say this

 

Whether you loved him (like me) or loathed him, Pearson is gone

Whether you think he would have continued to succeed at Leicester of fail, he is gone

Whether you wanted O'Neill, Lennon, Hiddink, Klopp, that's not happened

Whether you feel Ranieri is past it, incapable, a failure or a success in the past, he is here!!

 

I for one am happy with the appointment but equally the jury is out a little and time will tell

 

Ranieri is our immediate / short / medium? / long term? future and what has happened to us and him in the past is now just that - in the past

 

 

A new Chapter of the LCFC epic has just been opened. Ranieri/LCFC combo will make it's own history from this point forwards so lets stop looking back, asking what-if, deciding he will fail before we even kick a ball and get behind him and the team

 

Let's hope he shuts up those idiots on tv and Radio who utter his name as the new boss of [deliberate pause and tone change] Leicester !

 

Let's remember that 30k home and 3 - 5k away supporters made shitloads of noise and played a massive part in keeping us up last season and irrespective of the manager, if that atmosphere is recreated, our chances of success are far greater than if we decide we will fail before we even start.

 

I truly hope Ranieri takes us to the next level. Let's put the past behind us and go forwards with excitement at what might be rather than convincing ourselves it will all be doom and gloom!!!

 

someone write him a song ffs - that would be a start   

Bags, you really do talk way to much sense for a lot of people on this site.

[Bagworthblue]

Bags, you really do talk way to much sense for a lot of people on this site.

when i'm sober 

 

I'm prone to some real shite too 

[foxoffderby]

Not happy with this at all. Was driving home this evening listening to talksport radio. They were questioning this big time. Then the likes of Gary Lineker is wondering whats going on out our club. This is bad for our club. The Thias have got it wrong big time this time, worse than sacking NP. 

 

Worried big time. 

[eunmac]

If it buys us another year of Cambiasso then I'm happy.

[My Nads]

What does he have in common with Sven really? They both managed in Italy for a bit I suppose. Plus we are in a different place to when Sven took over so it really is a fairly pointless comparison.

I think you're missing the point. It shows the owners are still impressed with how a manager made a name for themselves 15 years ago. On paper he is as close to Sven as you can get, so they haven't learnt a thing. I don't think he will be as bad as Sven, but I don't see him lasting the season to be honest. I just hope he doesn't fook everything up in the time he is here.

[Tuna]

Considering a week ago we were panicking over the possible Preki appointment I'd take Tinkerman any day of the week.

 

Disspointed with the lukewarm and cynical reaction from Social Media His record - despite all the firings - is on the whole very good. Most cynics seem to be focusing on the Greece job which was for 4 matches and he was dismissed knee jerk after the Faroe Islands debacle. This was also his first international appointment. He can hardly be accuesd of being out of touch either as he's been working almost constantly for nearly 30 years. I don't think he'll relegate us, I'm intrigued to see who he will bring in, looking at the current list of targets and resigning  Esteban would be a good start. Hugely important too is retaining the backroom staff which would be a sensible decision.

 

All of this is exceptionally bad timing and I can only hope we will be ready for kick off in August. I'm really interested to see what his philosophy is but regret that the team Nigel built will likely be dismantled. Hope he gets off to a good start and we don't see a Ranieri Out thread for while but he will be under a lot of pressure to take us forwards. Approaching this with cautious optimism.

[placidcasual]

Not happy with this at all. Was driving home this evening listening to talksport radio. They were questioning this big time. Then the likes of Gary Lineker is wondering whats going on out our club. This is bad for our club. The Thias have got it wrong big time this time, worse than sacking NP. 

 

Worried big time. 

 

Oh Talksport are unhappy? I am sure the Vichai and Top will sack him first thing in the morning then.

 

I notice that Lineker hasn't said who he would have liked as manager - Quite easy to just sit there and gripe.

[Hack]

I think you're missing the point. It shows the owners are still impressed with how a manager made a name for themselves 15 years ago. On paper he is as close to Sven as you can get, so they haven't learnt a thing. I don't think he will be as bad as Sven, but I don't see him lasting the season to be honest. I just hope he doesn't fook everything up in the time he is here.

So you didn't want a manager with a successful previous career, is that right?  So what was your criteria for hiring our next manager and specifically who did you want?  

[Hack]

Considering a week ago we were panicking over the possible Preki appointment I'd take Tinkerman any day of the week.

 

Disspointed with the lukewarm and cynical reaction from Social Media His record - despite all the firings - is on the whole very good. Most cynics seem to be focusing on the Greece job which was for 4 matches and he was dismissed knee jerk after the Faroe Islands debacle. This was also his first international appointment. He can hardly be accuesd of being out of touch either as he's been working almost constantly for nearly 30 years. I don't think he'll relegate us, I'm intrigued to see who he will bring in, looking at the current list of targets and resigning  Esteban would be a good start. Hugely important too is retaining the backroom staff which would be a sensible decision.

 

All of this is exceptionally bad timing and I can only hope we will be ready for kick off in August. I'm really interested to see what his philosophy is but regret that the team Nigel built will likely be dismantled. Hope he gets off to a good start and we don't see a Ranieri Out thread for while but he will be under a lot of pressure to take us forwards. Approaching this with cautious optimism.

Tuna,  Thank you for a balanced but mostly positive post and support for our new manager.  

[Bagworthblue]

I think you're missing the point. It shows the owners are still impressed with how a manager made a name for themselves 15 years ago. On paper he is as close to Sven as you can get, so they haven't learnt a thing. I don't think he will be as bad as Sven, but I don't see him lasting the season to be honest. I just hope he doesn't fook everything up in the time he is here.

but they have learnt a lot. They now have a recruitment structure in place one step removed from the manager. Ranieri is a head coach, not a top down manager like Sven who chose the players and went out and got them.. We now have a structure where the manager says  what but not who he needs and the recruitment team look for the right player within a certain budget structure using their tried and tested recruitment formula that tracks players over a long period of time. Yes - he may suggest names and the recruitment team may take his personal scouting knowledge of the countries he has managed in, into account but he has , in the main, been recruited to coach and manage the team and his standing will help us attract those better players that Walsh and his team have earmarked.

 

well that's the plan and hey ho it is a plan, not some cobbled together attempt to pull a big name out of the hat and hope for the best.

 

I have sought and obtained this information over a few years and re Ranieri, a few days by reading up on his history using a number of sources, some written, some verbal accounts from people who rated him and some who didn't, from listening to pundits on the radio and from having an open mind, and cutting through bias and political intent.

 

My conclusion is that he has the track record to deliver what we perceive to be success. His win ratio alone in all  previous jobs would see us mid table at worst (apart from his 4 game spell at tormented Greece which is insufficient time to take too seriously with a national team he got to work with on a handful of occasions) He has worked at some top clubs  but also had success at smaller clubs. He has inherited many teams and built on what he had rather than start again from scratch. A chap that has followed his career for some time commented today on the radio - he's no Harry Redknapp - He leaves the buying and selling to tose responsible and concentrates on coaching. He has played different styles, formations and tactics at different clubs in different countries to achieve success by adapting to what is required.Apart from Greece his sackings appear harsh having had what most here would consider to be successful spells. He is articulate, well spoken, considered and calm. He is well respected by other managers and considered a really nice guy. He handles the press well and rarely gets over excited or downbeat.He is accused of tinkering too much and some feel he is always going to be an 'also-ran' who comes so close yet so far from real success - i.e finishes 2nd and doesn't quite have the nouse to hit 1st. I can handle that !!!

 

Whether he does well or not  - well that we will soon find out soon but his track record doesn't suggest he will be a failure unless he isn't given enough time.

 

But to suggest he  is 'Sven the sequel' is in my mind ill informed unless you have a researched and well presented counter argument to back it up.