dylanlegend Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Don't take any notice in what the media circles say about us. It's not fashionable for LCFC to bring in a big name manager. They don't want to see us do well. Never do. We're not fashionable enough. Last season NP made us fashionable. I think everyone respected us and especially the way we played. It just feels like all that hard work is slowly and surely being undone. Ranieri isn't really a big name anymore as people have said he's got quite lucky getting the job. I just hope he doesn't rip up the squad like Peter Taylor did
ImBlue Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 But I do not agree his achievements are something to write home about! Why you try explaining why you think this is the best step the club could've taken? The absolute right decision? Write home about, no, maybe not. They are however decent enough to be acknowledged rather than dismissed. I do wonder though what appointment wouldn't underwhelm people on here. We are a promoted club that survived relegation with 1 game to spare after being bottom for a ridiculous amount of time, and we expect a young up and coming manager with top flight experience. We aren't that attractive. Therefore I'm happy if he consolidates us as a premier league side, maybe pushing up to midtable. It's clear he probably isn't here for the long term, but I will be happy if he completes the short term as this puts us in a better position to progress.
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Sorry, but why is Ranieri getting ripped up? I have no idea. The idiot from The Sun seems to think we will automatically get relegated because he is not Neil Lennon. They seem to think that all Leicester fans will be outraged by the decision. The worst I have heard is underwhelmed. They have not bothered checking the facts that he has previously worked with Walsh etc. Find it perplexing. Made worse by then saying that Bilic will do ok at West Ham despite the fact he has never managed in the Prem. Absolutely no consistency in his argument.
Guest ttfn Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 MON rumoured to come back - people, quite rightly, make the point that he isn't what he was 10 years ago so isn't the right man now... Ranieri confirmed - people justify it as a good appointment based on what he did 10 years ago rather than anything of note recently... I'm underwhelmed with it all to be honest, I cant get excited about the appointment and I'll tell you why... This appointment stands for everything that I'd hoped we'd learned not to do. Claudio Ranieri has not been appointed because at this moment in time he's the best manager for Leicester City, he's been appointed on past glories. He's not been appointed because he's the right fit for our squad, our approach, our backroom set-up, he's been appointed because he's a 'name'. He's not been appointed, I believe, with a view that he can progress us in a sensible manner, he's been brought in as the quick fix. We've not gone for a man whose career is on an upwards trajectory, someone ready to take the next step at LCFC and with something to prove. We've not even gone for someone who is tried and tested at what we need to do (establishing and consolidating our position). We've gone for one hell of a gamble, a bit of a punt that the man we've just handed a three-year contract to is here because he has the hunger and desire to improve our club and achieve something here. For those reasons, I fail to be excited. I'm not saying this will not work out, I hope it does, but I'm looking at this realistically and based on the here and now of both the club and the man we've just given the job to. Funny I was going to say the exact opposite with regards to MO'N - that I was surprised that people who were saying O'Neill would be good were saying Ranieri wasn't right for us. On reflection, My impression is that there would probably have been a similar reaction.It's also worth noting that Ranieri's CV is much more impressive than O'Neill's with both men aged 63.
Corky Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 TalkSport believe any foreign manager who isn't Mourinho is automatically crap, a mercenary or denying an inferior British coach a job because they speak with an exotic accent. Sometimes all three at once. If we'd have appointed Dyche we'd have been praised to the hilt.
enmac Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Not impressed to be honest. Managed a lot of big clubs - sacked from the majority due to poor run of results/over tinkering. Spends money like water. Doesn't have a history of putting together a structured approach for prolong success. Not the right appointment for a club going into there second season in the top league. Can see this ending in tears sacked before the end of the year and survival will be key on who remains after January. I just think Top and Vichai are using this club as a learning curve for Top. There's no method to his recruitment of Ranieri at all. He is in his last few jobs a failed managed. Going back as far as Valencia after leaving Chelsea. He failed to fulfil his mandate at: Valencia - sacked poor form ( trophy winners the previous year) Juve (sacked - poor form) Roma (sacked - poor form) Inter (sacked - poor form) I don't understand it. Sacked by Chelsea after coming 2nd in the PL to the "invincibles" and semi- finallists in the CL.Why does everyone have to be so black and white? You can use stats to prove anything- just give the bloke a chance, because constant negativity will end up with one result only. As much a I liked Pearson(who should still be manager), the positive supporters were, in my opinion, a massive factor last season in our survival.
Tielemans63 Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I have no idea. The idiot from The Sun seems to think we will automatically get relegated because he is not Neil Lennon. They seem to think that all Leicester fans will be outraged by the decision. The worst I have heard is underwhelmed. They have not bothered checking the facts that he has previously worked with Walsh etc. Find it perplexing. Made worse by then saying that Bilic will do ok at West Ham despite the fact he has never managed in the Prem. Absolutely no consistency in his argument. Good post there ZB. Bilic's CV isnt particularly impressive and yet his appointment seemed to be universally approved.
EarlBeaumont Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 In the French media, they say it's a great signing for Leicester, and he will definitely take the club to the next level
RowlattsFox Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 It's weird how dick advocaat wasn't greeted with the type of press ranieri is getting. Despite being 67 and an inconsistent work history.
dylanlegend Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Funny I was going to say the exact opposite with regards to MO'N - that I was surprised that people who were saying O'Neill would be good were saying Ranieri wasn't right for us. On reflection, My impression is that there would probably have been a similar reaction. It's also worth noting that Ranieri's CV is much more impressive than O'Neill's with both men aged 63. It's not more impressive he's just been given more jobs as he's been available more. It also shows O'Neill is a team building manager who stays around whereas Ranieri seems more short term / journeyman. I hope it works out but 8 jobs in 10 years suggests thats unlikley.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Out of the alleged/linked candidates, I am not disappointed with this appointment. You can pin question marks over any appointment; however I find the amount of negativity incredulous. His CV is impressive, albeit chequered of late I hope and believe his desire to get the job coupled with his winning mentality/ win ratio will hopefully work for our club. Why not give him a chance instead of hanging him before he#s committed a crime?
Benji Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Wasn't sure at first, but I don't know how I can be unsure about a man who comes out with gems like this: "If it is the case that you need just a first 11 and three or four more players, then why did Christopher Columbus sail to India to discover America?" Let the good times roll.
RedSoxUK Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 It's weird how dick advocaat wasn't greeted with the type of press ranieri is getting. Despite being 67 and an inconsistent work history. And his name.
Tielemans63 Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I think the sackings he's had are a slight misnoma as this is the modus operandi of a lot of the top Italian and Spanish clubs, prem clubs are getting less patient too. No-one seems to get much time at the top clubs these days. Carlo Ancelotti has been sacked by Juve, Milan, Chelsea and Real Madrid. Is he good enough for the City job?
ImBlue Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 It's not more impressive he's just been given more jobs as he's been available more. It also shows O'Neill is a team building manager who stays around whereas Ranieri seems more short term / journeyman. I hope it works out but 8 jobs in 10 years suggests thats unlikley. Dylan. He left Parma for juve. Got sacked at Chelsea for finishing second behind the invincibles, sacked at Monaco after finishing second in his first season in the top flight. Lesson? Jobs are cut throat at the top. Had Nigel performed the way he did last season in a top job, he wouldn't have lasted 2 months. It's a fact.
Guest ttfn Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 It's not more impressive he's just been given more jobs as he's been available more. It also shows O'Neill is a team building manager who stays around whereas Ranieri seems more short term / journeyman. I hope it works out but 8 jobs in 10 years suggests thats unlikley. Ranieri has been the manager of Roma, Chelsea, Inter and Juventus (amongst others of course). O'Neill once managed Celtic. It's no contest - the only "big" job he's ever even been considered for was England back in 2006.
dylanlegend Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Dylan. He left Parma for juve. Got sacked at Chelsea for finishing second behind the invincibles, sacked at Monaco after finishing second in his first season in the top flight. Lesson? Jobs are cut throat at the top. Had Nigel performed the way he did last season in a top job, he wouldn't have lasted 2 months. It's a fact. If his CV is so impressive why did he end up at Greece? Admittedly he's landed a top job now though ;-)
ImBlue Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I think the sackings he's had are a slight misnoma as this is the modus operandi of a lot of the top Italian and Spanish clubs, prem clubs are getting less patient too. No-one seems to get much time at the top clubs these days. Carlo Ancelotti has been sacked by Juve, Milan, Chelsea and Real Madrid. Is he good enough for the City job? Nope, journeyman.Had 5 clubs since 2009. Let's write him off
reynard Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Really not at all sure about this appointment. His spell as manager of Greece was a shambolic disaster and he's really only worked with big clubs and top players. Neither of which is Leicester City. He's not a manger whose going to build a club and even if successful won't be here in 2 years time. We have a team that plays best when pressing and using pace, Ranieri likes a slow build up based on a solid defence and a packed midfield. I'm not sure we have the players that can play the way he will want. Sadly I fear this increases out chances of relegation especially if we get off to a bad start. Fingers crossed I'm wrong but I can see him gone by Christmas. Still he's worked with some top players but hasn't lasted long at any club. There must be a reason for the consistently short appointments.
Guest ttfn Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 If his CV is so impressive why did he end up at Greece? Admittedly he's landed a top job now though ;-)Because he wanted to try international management?Because he wanted to sample a new culture? His CV is undeniably impressive. Ok he may not be coveted by the very best sides in Europe any more but we're hardly a prize pig ourselves
dylanlegend Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Ranieri has been the manager of Roma, Chelsea, Inter and Juventus (amongst others of course). O'Neill once managed Celtic. It's no contest - the only "big" job he's ever even been considered for was England back in 2006. Sven has managed more top clubs than O'Neill but doesn't make him a better manager. What experience does Ranieri have of managing a bottom half prem team? This to me just seems a big risk that is unnecessary with the likes of Big Sam and O'Neill out there
ImBlue Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 If his CV is so impressive why did he end up at Greece? Admittedly he's landed a top job now though ;-) Your clutching at straws picking up one team on his list that sounds modest. The rest of his clubs have been superb. Not sure many people can defend his stint with Greece, but a reputation does nothing at international level, you can't sign players, you just work with what you have. Can you name me a top Greek player?
CosbehFox Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Tell you one thing the media negativity is going to unite the fans and the squad again. Suspect a lot of the squad will feel that they will have to prove their ability again.
reynard Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Your clutching at straws picking up one team on his list that sounds modest. The rest of his clubs have been superb. Not sure many people can defend his stint with Greece, but a reputation does nothing at international level, you can't sign players, you just work with what you have. Can you name me a top Greek player? No but they ought to beat the Faroe Islands!
dylanlegend Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 The owners seem to be running before they can walk. It would have made more sense to get a boss that could consolidate our PL position (like Big Sam) for 2-3 years then move to a "next level" manager
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