The Horse's Mouth Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Not happy with this at all. Was driving home this evening listening to talksport radio. They were questioning this big time. Then the likes of Gary Lineker is wondering whats going on out our club. This is bad for our club. The Thias have got it wrong big time this time, worse than sacking NP. Worried big time. Lineker spouted a load of tripe tbqh, Lineker and Talksport only really care about English football, I doubt they really know much about Ranieri outside of his time at Chelsea and haven't looked into his record since, just the amount of clubs he's been at. Only thing wrong about this appointment is the timing and the fact Pearson was better for the long term plan, but either way he was the best candidate available.
Tuna Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Oh Talksport are unhappy? I am sure the Vichai and Top will sack him first thing in the morning then. I notice that Lineker hasn't said who he would have liked as manager - Quite easy to just sit there and gripe. Talksport are a bunch of clueless muppets. I listed to the drive show and heard Micky Quinn say 'Greece hadn't won for 4 years' under him and he was 'useless at Monaco'.
Bagworthblue Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Not happy with this at all. Was driving home this evening listening to talksport radio. They were questioning this big time. Then the likes of Gary Lineker is wondering whats going on out our club. This is bad for our club. The Thias have got it wrong big time this time, worse than sacking NP. Worried big time. let me relieve your concern - don't listen to Gary or talksport or stringer or anyone that hasn't a clue about Ranieri. Start reading decent balanced articles, listen to people who know a lot about him and I think you will find it is circa 70% good and 30% bad. Consider that if he was to really fail by his standards at Leicester and have half the success he has had elsehwhere apart from a bad 4 game spell at Greece, he will still more than keep us up. Imagine the political swing 'o' meter - it would take a very big swing in his career stats to put us in any danger of relegation
Mickyblueeyes Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Write home about, no, maybe not. They are however decent enough to be acknowledged rather than dismissed. I do wonder though what appointment wouldn't underwhelm people on here. We are a promoted club that survived relegation with 1 game to spare after being bottom for a ridiculous amount of time, and we expect a young up and coming manager with top flight experience. We aren't that attractive. Therefore I'm happy if he consolidates us as a premier league side, maybe pushing up to midtable. It's clear he probably isn't here for the long term, but I will be happy if he completes the short term as this puts us in a better position to progress. You're happy with a short term fix. I am not. Which brings back to my original post as to what your issue was. All this "long term planning" talk from the owners and there actions are quite the opposite. I don't question what they do LCFC is a past time I want to go along be entertained and see progress. In this instance they've cocked up big time and settled - if this was careful planning Ranieri would've been hired 10 days ago. I fear they do not believe their own bullshit either. My original post stands and I feel they will not be able to provide the requisite answers. I feel the owners are decent people. However I also feel the people they have advising them are not experienced enough to do the job at dirextor level. These errors/blunders are occurring due to not having the insight in the chosen industry. Rudkin, Whelan and Neville may have certain skills and expertise but not one has the know-how of how to run a football club at the highest level yet. It may serve the club well to bring in a high profile director to guide them through the processes for a few years. Albeit in an advisor role.
Rincewind Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 So the owners after sacking a manager that has done well appoints a manager that is in some fans opinions not the right man for the job. Such a pity they never consulted these fans rather the advisers at the club. I do not know much about him other than he used to be a manager of Chelsea. Is this what fans object to?I say just wait and see. If an ex Chelsea manager wants to manage a team like City then isnt that a good thing? If it doesnt turn out well they can always appoint Pearson again. Cheer up people.
Bagworthblue Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 You're happy with a short term fix. I am not. Which brings back to my original post as to what your issue was. All this "long term planning" talk from the owners and there actions are quite the opposite. I don't question what they do LCFC is a past time I want to go along be entertained and see progress. In this instance they've cocked up big time and settled - if this was careful planning Ranieri would've been hired 10 days ago. I fear they do not believe their own bullshit either. My original post stands and I feel they will not be able to provide the requisite answers. I feel the owners are decent people. However I also feel the people they have advising them are not experienced enough to do the job at dirextor level. These errors/blunders are occurring due to not having the insight in the chosen industry. Rudkin, Whelan and Neville may have certain skills and expertise but not one has the know-how of how to run a football club at the highest level yet. It may serve the club well to bring in a high profile director to guide them through the processes for a few years. Albeit in an advisor role. in my line of business, I find the succession planning works most successfully by having an experienced leader working with younger individuals who have potential; to help nurture them and ready them to take over in the future when the time is right. He has been offered a 3 year contract, plenty of time to add more bricks to the foundations brilliantly constructed by the existing regime, of which Pearson was a part whilst in the medium term the club plans strategically for the much longer term future. I take your point we may lack experience in the top flight from a club structure perspective and agree consultancy support for Rudkin and co would be beneficial but these guys have a lot of time and contacts in the game and as I often do, I'm sure they pick up the phone and take advice when required. I remember when Sven was sacked, an interview from Top where he stated that they had realised they could not manage the business of football from a position of experience and had started taking advise from well respected footballing people recommended to them.They appointed Robinson and ok that didn't work out in the end and now they have Rudkin in place and he seems to have the nouse to know his beans and to know when he needs to take advice from others. I don't think we can just assume the owners have learnt nothing just because on the face of it they have again gone for a big name. I think they have done what a well run business would do, and that is to recruit someone with experience and success in achieving elsewhere what we are now looking to achieve ourselves.
crisp packet Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Was gutted as the next man no devastated when pearson got sacked.1st thoughts was big Sam as gaffer Pearson had read Sams blue print regarding management ,then with my blue tinted specs I wanted Klopp ? If it wasn't Sven or us signing estabian I wouldn't have thought possible ( it ain't) After being linked with every manager a club of lcfc stature should be (championship and below for previous 10 years) was linked with the Lennons cottrils and any other half successful but not too big a name randomly linked to LCFC .A few days later hiddink,another few days MoN. In between Fcuking all sorts.Still no ones 100% happy?? In between all this a manager who has managed some of the biggest names and clubs in Europe!! Expresses an interest in managing us?!, Well we managed to snare him. Pearson will always be remembered for what he has done for this club. Always ! But he's gone . Up until a few weeks ago we had one of longest serving managers in the top flight ? Now we haven't . We have ambitious owners , we are part of a toy. These guys roll with the queen there no blaggers.. We have seen regarding What the owners have done regarding the infustructure of the club they ain't playing ?? New training ground youth team cat 'A' etc they are here for the long haul. They have money jets helicopters ain't cheap (we are not going bust again!) Pearson hung himself ? Let's be about right ,if he had strengthened positions which needed strengthening last summer and played certain personnel and formations all season it wouldn't have taken a 'great escape' to keep us up ?!? Forget 13 games without a win,forget Fcuk off an die,Mcarther,ostrich gate,not to mention Thailand!!he nailed his own coffin !son involved or not . (As I said I was devastated he got sacked!!) But I wasn't surprised he did? We need to move on as a club in every sense of the word . We are not in the championship no more. The Premiership is huge . Im happy with the noises Claudio made regarding coming to us, he wanted to manage again in the biggest league in the world (Most entertaining I'd say but..?) He wanted to manage US little ol LCFC.I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't ask the question to klopp ,Hidink, M.o.N etc we got Who we got based on WHO we are ?? It's done I AM happy strapped in ready to watch the transfer news . FFP COLLAPSING may be a blessing? Centre mid x2 .Cambissio +1 and a one or two new centre backs please The k.p rocking was one of the main reasons we stayed up last year !! Our 12th man needs to get behind OUR club and support OUR team again ! Far too many to drinks ....? COYB
sylofox Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 From his managing history, he has never ripped a team apart and bring in lot's of so called big names. Just look at his history. Yes, he has had money to spend and mostly has spent it well. But in all the clubs he has been at he has used largely the squad in place and has turned nearly all in to top 5 or 6 teams from lower level teams. For those that are against this appointment, I for the life of me don't know what they were expecting. If it is because Nigel got fired, I get that being a reason to be upset, but to not be excited or if not excited at least pleased that we have the highest achieving and highest profile manager in club history, bar none. All that have managed the team to what we determine success were almost novices and made their name with. It can be argued that Sven was/is a bigger name, but the way Sven works and Claudio works is very very different. This is not Sven 2.0. Those who are complaining are those that can't be helped without professional support I think they are clinically depressed and typify the Whinging POM. I do not we don't know why Nige was sacked and has no bearing on the new man. I supported Nige when most gave up but he has gone. LCFC are still here that is all that matters So a new man and praps another in six months as long as we stay up thats it. It is all about money nothing else would Nige have stayed for 50k a year? Like fvck would he yet you all lord him up. Yes he was great for us but our money was good for him.
HoustonFox Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Still not sure about all this. Never really paid close attention to whether he is a team builder or whatever. I like him as a bloke, has always come across as genuine and sincere. VERY surprised he has a 3 year deal, his track record has never indicated that long and he's probably on a lot of money. Shows they really want him. Hope he knows the squad and has done his homework on us. I think the tinkerman nickname won't apply here, we don't have the strength in depth to rotate. Finally, hooe he finally turns Andy King into the new Lampard 2.0 we've been hoping for over the last 5 years! It won't be dull, that's for sure! PS - if we signed Moutinho I'll go crazy. We won't
stox259 Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 For me it's like chucking Rachel Rilley out of bed and getting in Jordan. Young up and coming gal for a 'been around the block, in it for the money type'. That said I bet Jordan is a fantastic sh4g for a short term so it could be a fun two years :-)
NGoloMode Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 I like this signing. The football might get a bit boring to watch but I'm confident he can keep us up but you never know do you..
Jattdogg Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 End of the day he is our manager and whats happened has happened. I wish him all the success because ultimately i want him to make us a contender or at least get closer to the top 7-10 within the next 3 years. No easy feat for any manager if you ask me.
Jattdogg Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Can't wait to smash Chelsea 5-3 . Wishful thinking. They arent as bad as united but i suppose it would be fitting.
FireFox Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Don't think this has been posted yet. Right before Monaco secured promotion.
ChrisFilter Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 dylanlegend - man, you're one depressing son of a gun. I bet you're a half-time booer. Maybe you could start another thread for all the negative ****ers to populate with their naysaying and doom-mongering?
FrankieADZ Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 still kinda unsure about Ranieri, if he can build on what NP did(sort of thing Swansea have done) then I think he'll be good, but not sure if he will tbh
ozleicester Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Just a thought... Ranieri was there to begin the transformation of Chelsea... and the transformation of Monaco... and now....
Number 6 Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Think the difference between Ranieri and Sven is that Ranieri's big money projects have largely been successful. Sven splashed money about here and was way off target. Also took Man City to mid table, way below where they wanted to be. Ranieri's big money projects appeared to be Chelsea and Monaco. He got both to second in the league. Yes big money wad spent but we've seen how it's easy to not get results once this has happened too.
Dickov22 Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 The club statement was hilarious 'we've secured one of the world's elite managers' . Are they serious? They have no clue. Let's not forget they've now appointed Sousa, Sven and Ranieri Ranieri will be a flop. Cannot believe they'd be so bloody stupid.
KFS Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 The club statement was hilarious 'we've secured one of the world's elite managers' . Are they serious? They have no clue. Let's not forget they've now appointed Sousa, Sven and Ranieri Ranieri will be a flop. Cannot believe they'd be so bloody stupid. Why are you being so painfully negative?
David Hankey Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 The club statement was hilarious 'we've secured one of the world's elite managers' . Are they serious? They have no clue. Let's not forget they've now appointed Sousa, Sven and Ranieri Ranieri will be a flop. Cannot believe they'd be so bloody stupid. Didn't Mandaric appoint Sousa when he was just about to sell up? Anyway the real point is that we have to look forward and build on what was eventually achieved last season. We're all expert and know who we would have selected but we're not the owners so whilst I appreciate everyone's opinion and their right to pontificate the owners have decided and will stand or fall on that decision.
C-man Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 The club statement was hilarious 'we've secured one of the world's elite managers' . Are they serious? They have no clue. Let's not forget they've now appointed Sousa, Sven and Ranieri Ranieri will be a flop. Cannot believe they'd be so bloody stupid. Wow.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 You know what chaps I feel compelled to say this Whether you loved him (like me) or loathed him, Pearson is gone Whether you think he would have continued to succeed at Leicester of fail, he is gone Whether you wanted O'Neill, Lennon, Hiddink, Klopp, that's not happened Whether you feel Ranieri is past it, incapable, a failure or a success in the past, he is here!! I for one am happy with the appointment but equally the jury is out a little and time will tell Ranieri is our immediate / short / medium? / long term? future and what has happened to us and him in the past is now just that - in the past A new Chapter of the LCFC epic has just been opened. Ranieri/LCFC combo will make it's own history from this point forwards so lets stop looking back, asking what-if, deciding he will fail before we even kick a ball and get behind him and the team Let's hope he shuts up those idiots on tv and Radio who utter his name as the new boss of [deliberate pause and tone change] Leicester ! Let's remember that 30k home and 3 - 5k away supporters made shitloads of noise and played a massive part in keeping us up last season and irrespective of the manager, if that atmosphere is recreated, our chances of success are far greater than if we decide we will fail before we even start. I truly hope Ranieri takes us to the next level. Let's put the past behind us and go forwards with excitement at what might be rather than convincing ourselves it will all be doom and gloom!!! someone write him a song ffs - that would be a start Great post again Baggers
FrankieADZ Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 The club statement was hilarious 'we've secured one of the world's elite managers' . Are they serious? They have no clue. Let's not forget they've now appointed Sousa, Sven and Ranieri Ranieri will be a flop. Cannot believe they'd be so bloody stupid. got to agree with you, he certainly isnt an elite manager, he was....isnt now, think the appointment was more desperation imo & when he said he was interested we jumped. im hoping im wrong,& that he does well, but gut feeling is i dont think he'll cut it
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