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Confirmed: Ranieri new manager

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Why are you being so painfully negative?

Just so so disappointed that we've appointed someone quite clearly at the wrong end of his career, who recently got sacked by Greece, who is a tinker man, who won't have a clue about how to manage a struggling premier league side, who has been sacked from almost every job in the last ten years, who clearly wasn't first choice. I could go on. Don't be blinded by the fact he's managed so many clubs- look at his actual record at most! Abysmal.

Posted

What's wrong with him putting his name into the hat? Isn't normal when you want a job to apply for it?

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The club statement was hilarious 'we've secured one of the world's elite managers' . Are they serious? They have no clue. Let's not forget they've now appointed Sousa, Sven and Ranieri

Ranieri will be a flop. Cannot believe they'd be so bloody stupid.

He hasnt even been in the job a day and you are already certain he will be a flop. Lets at least give him a chance hey.

 

My first impression on his appointment. Meh. Doesnt fill me with too much excitement but more importantly it doesnt fill me with too much dread either.

 

Out of all the names linked with the job Ranieri was ahead of alot of them. Coterill, Dyche, Lennon and Preki in the hotseat i would have dreaded this coming season. With Ranieri i am a little more optimistic.

 

His career hasnt been filled with success but he has managed big teams and has done well at a few clubs. Lets not forget he already knows Huth and Walsh so they will help him settle into the job. Huth may even be made captain there's a thought.

 

I am a little worried that he hasnt been in a relegation battle before but in saying that surely that means he could walk in and establish us as a safe mid table team. Only time will tell.

 

Fixtures have been kind to us. He will have to get off to a good start to win over fans. Lets all get behind him though and give him a chance.

Posted

What's wrong with him putting his name into the hat? Isn't normal when you want a job to apply for it?

I don't think there's anything wrong with that. The one (and pretty much only) positive I can see from this appointment is that at least he wants to be here.

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One thing I will say is that getting sacked by Chelseas and Valencias and Inters doesn't immediately make you a bad appointment at Leicester City. David Moyes wouldn't have been a bad appointment here.

The goalposts are very much moved for him now. Only job he's done that compares to what ours will be like is Parma and he succeeded there.

Posted

I don't wish to be continually negative but seeing as I was targeted for saying that the club only had an interest once he declare interest in the job.

Back of the times today

'Last week Ranieri effectively issued a come and get me plea to Leicester's Thai owners and contact was made. Negotiations were finalised in the past 24 hours'

And to continue that he was third choice

'Leicester's moves for Guus Hiddink and Martin O'Neill were met with frustration. O Neill, had emerged as the clear front runner last week....Yet the FAI was ready to dig it's heels in over a compensation battle'

That's not me pretending to me ITK, that's better informed persons confirming my suspicion.

Posted

Just so so disappointed that we've appointed someone quite clearly at the wrong end of his career, who recently got sacked by Greece, who is a tinker man, who won't have a clue about how to manage a struggling premier league side, who has been sacked from almost every job in the last ten years, who clearly wasn't first choice. I could go on. Don't be blinded by the fact he's managed so many clubs- look at his actual record at most! Abysmal.

 

He's actually never relegated a club from what I can gather, let's at least give him a chance to get that on his CV.

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On a positive note, Rory Smith of the Tomes who I like but I do know that opinion is divided of his work on here, is supportive of the move. He suggests that he's intelligent and his CV disguises that he did well at difficult times for clubs.

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Just so so disappointed that we've appointed someone quite clearly at the wrong end of his career, who recently got sacked by Greece, who is a tinker man, who won't have a clue about how to manage a struggling premier league side, who has been sacked from almost every job in the last ten years, who clearly wasn't first choice. I could go on. Don't be blinded by the fact he's managed so many clubs- look at his actual record at most! Abysmal.

I think you need to do some reading up rather than base your opinions on assumptions. He's improved pretty much every club side he's managed.

You look at his actual record at most. Chelsea, Roma, Juventus, Monaco - he took them all from the bottom to the top. He saved Parma. He's reached Champions League semi-finals and finished 2nd repeatedly in top leagues.

Seriously - how much appeal do you think we hold?!

I was gutted at Pearson's sacking and I'm not blown away by his appointment, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on an underrated career. I support Leicester, and he's now the Leicester manager.

Cheer the **** up, everyone.

Posted

I don't wish to be continually negative but seeing as I was targeted for saying that the club only had an interest once he declare interest in the job.

Back of the times today

'Last week Ranieri effectively issued a come and get me plea to Leicester's Thai owners and contact was made. Negotiations were finalised in the past 24 hours'

And to continue that he was third choice

'Leicester's moves for Guus Hiddink and Martin O'Neill were met with frustration. O Neill, had emerged as the clear front runner last week....Yet the FAI was ready to dig it's heels in over a compensation battle'

That's not me pretending to me ITK, that's better informed persons confirming my suspicion.

 

So what did you want them to do? If a club can't get their 1st and 2nd choice are they supposed to just throw in the towel and not appoint anyone?

 

I think it's fairly clear our owners aren't the most knowledgable when it comes to football and that's shown when they decided to stick with Pearson during occasions where most would have gotten rid of him. They probably didn't want to risk having to find someone else. It's clear they don't have prospective managers in mind incase they require a new one, other than Sven they took a few weeks each time they needed a new manager.

 

Pearson wasn't first choice I don't believe either when he came back, he did a decent job.

Posted

Just so so disappointed that we've appointed someone quite clearly at the wrong end of his career, who recently got sacked by Greece, who is a tinker man, who won't have a clue about how to manage a struggling premier league side, who has been sacked from almost every job in the last ten years, who clearly wasn't first choice. I could go on. Don't be blinded by the fact he's managed so many clubs- look at his actual record at most! Abysmal.

I think you need to do some reading up rather than base your opinions on assumptions. He's improved pretty much every club side he's managed.

You look at his actual record at most. Chelsea, Roma, Juventus, Monaco - he took them all from the bottom to the top. He saved Parma. He's reached Champions League semi-finals and finished 2nd repeatedly in top leagues.

Seriously - how much appeal do you think we hold?!

I was gutted at Pearson's sacking and I'm not blown away by his appointment, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on an underrated career. I support Leicester, and he's now the Leicester manager.

Cheer the **** up, everyone.

Posted

Quite pleased by this appointment. I'm sure he will help us consolidate in the PL.

He will attract some big names, but I think the situation is different to when Sven was here. We are now a PL club, and will be able to attract quality.

Posted

I think you need to do some reading up rather than base your opinions on assumptions. He's improved pretty much every club side he's managed.

You look at his actual record at most. Chelsea, Roma, Juventus, Monaco - he took them all from the bottom to the top. He saved Parma. He's reached Champions League semi-finals and finished 2nd repeatedly in top leagues.

Seriously - how much appeal do you think we hold?!

I was gutted at Pearson's sacking and I'm not blown away by his appointment, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on an underrated career. I support Leicester, and he's now the Leicester manager.

Cheer the **** up, everyone.

 

Astounding isn't it. Our fans are very guilty of tarnishing certain types of players and managers with the same brush. Sven was a disaster and because his profile could be classed as similar to Ranieri's it must mean Claudio is a coont and dog muck. Baffling.

Posted

Quite pleased by this appointment. I'm sure he will help us consolidate in the PL.

He will attract some big names, but I think the situation is different to when Sven was here. We are now a PL club, and will be able to attract quality.

 

Hallelujah. The Championship is not a league where sides with supposed big named players tend to do very well, it's always about team spirit and progression. Teams that have come up from League One tend to carry the momentum or teams that have been chipping away and improving each year are the ones that eventually prosper. In the PL the gulf in class is big once you get past the dross of the bottom 6. Ranieri's record in the transfer market is quite phenomenal at times.

Posted

Can't wait to smash Chelsea 5-3

Bit ambitious. A scrappy 1-0 home and away double over them will do.

Someone in the pub last night suggested having a yenner on City to win the FA Cup this year. Should get a decent price. They wanted to do it as a birthday present for a regular who is a fan. Ten people at tenner each at 200/1 should bring in a fair bit.

Posted

I think you need to do some reading up rather than base your opinions on assumptions. He's improved pretty much every club side he's managed.

You look at his actual record at most. Chelsea, Roma, Juventus, Monaco - he took them all from the bottom to the top. He saved Parma. He's reached Champions League semi-finals and finished 2nd repeatedly in top leagues.

Seriously - how much appeal do you think we hold?!

I was gutted at Pearson's sacking and I'm not blown away by his appointment, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on an underrated career. I support Leicester, and he's now the Leicester manager.

Cheer the **** up, everyone.

so good you posted it twice!

Posted

Like many I'm suitably underwhelmed and I think the reason for this is the nature of the appointment rather than the appointment itself. I suspect we all believed that despite the sudden sacking of one of our most successful managers, that we did so with a credible replacement lined up or a series of alternatives which fitted both the club and the style of growth we've been pursuing. To witness the recruitment process play out in the manner it has and to see us effectively appoint someone we'd not considered (nor had any other club) could be a cause for concern.

Of course this could all also work out fine, Ranieri will be used to a continental management structure, the scouting and recruitment team could still hold sway, the physio and sports science side with Dave Rennie may well still be trusted to schedule training to minimise injury and he may be able to adapt to our squad.

Posted

So what did you want them to do? If a club can't get their 1st and 2nd choice are they supposed to just throw in the towel and not appoint anyone?

I think it's fairly clear our owners aren't the most knowledgable when it comes to football and that's shown when they decided to stick with Pearson during occasions where most would have gotten rid of him. They probably didn't want to risk having to find someone else. It's clear they don't have prospective managers in mind incase they require a new one, other than Sven they took a few weeks each time they needed a new manager.

Pearson wasn't first choice I don't believe either when he came back, he did a decent job.

Considering the club as resources it has never had before, I want us to be forward thinking, innovative and attempting to do this sustainably.

If I had invested a considerable sum of money into something I have little knowledge about I would be looking for find someone who has that knowledge to assist me. The owners have had dealings with Sir Dave Richards who whilst experienced is a fool who took Wednesday down to their current position. They have also hired John Rudkin and Andrew Neville into higher positions of power. Their CVs are respectively in academy football and football administration.

Now if I compare us to other clubs of a similar or lesser size whose success we'd like to replicate, I see that they employ blokes as technical directors or directors of football with good backgrounds.

Let's take Les Reed at Southampton whose been involved with youth football, the FA and even managed a football club for a period (albeit poorly).

When you have a guy in that position with good knowledge when it comes to hiring a manager then with some research you can pinpoint an appointment which fits the way you want to run the club. Did we consider the likes of the Guingamp manager or look a bit deeper in Lennon or Karanka.

Instead they went for

Hiddink - made his name for South Korea hence the owners see a link to Asia.

O'Neill - club legend whose impact on the club is massive that it can not be ignored

Ranieri - makes a plea to say he's interested, managed the top clubs and fits a name profile.

I am thankfully for a lot of things the owners have done:- training ground, ticket prices at a sensible prices and funding a sports science/scouting time like no other we've had.

However, whilst we have this chance, i want the best for this club. I want them to lay foundations that can see is thrive for the next twenty years which may outlast their period of ownership. That's what I want - there were parts of Pearson what were doing that. Sports Science, Scouting etc. For example, we must ahead of the game if Spurs start poaching our scouting staff.

I'm not saying it's a bad appointment btw. I think he has an awful lot of experience that could be handy. However the decision making what came before it is worrying.

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I am hoping that Ranieri proves to be a manager who can take our club forward. I don't believe he will and am generally feeling pretty gutted at his appointment for that reason. I fear the message it sends is that Leicester can't get the manager they really want so have had to make do. I suspect his greatest value will be in attracting players to the club who are Premier League standard - I can't see him generating the same loyalty and cohesiveness that NP engendered with the players. He will probably also be more tactically astute but his recent record isn't great.

Posted

Just a thought... Ranieri was there to begin the transformation of Chelsea... and the transformation of Monaco... and now.... :ph34r:

Also took Caglieri (whatever theyre called) from Serie C to Serie A. Took Roma from 0 points in 3 games to finishing 2nd in the league.

Posted

I think you need to do some reading up rather than base your opinions on assumptions. He's improved pretty much every club side he's managed.

You look at his actual record at most. Chelsea, Roma, Juventus, Monaco - he took them all from the bottom to the top. He saved Parma. He's reached Champions League semi-finals and finished 2nd repeatedly in top leagues.

Seriously - how much appeal do you think we hold?!

I was gutted at Pearson's sacking and I'm not blown away by his appointment, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on an underrated career. I support Leicester, and he's now the Leicester manager.

Cheer the **** up, everyone.

tbh i dont think you can really compare us to any of though's teams, not even Parma(not even the 2007 team he kept up) his Greece record wasnt upto much kop tho.

we are a different kettle of fish tho tbf

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Just so so disappointed that we've appointed someone quite clearly at the wrong end of his career, who recently got sacked by Greece, who is a tinker man, who won't have a clue about how to manage a struggling premier league side, who has been sacked from almost every job in the last ten years, who clearly wasn't first choice. I could go on. Don't be blinded by the fact he's managed so many clubs- look at his actual record at most! Abysmal.

He's got a 46% win rate across 921 games according to Wikipedia. That's a pretty bloody good record let alone abysmal.

Have a word with yourself, this is embarrassing.

Posted

Considering the club as resources it has never had before, I want us to be forward thinking, innovative and attempting to do this sustainably.

If I had invested a considerable sum of money into something I have little knowledge about I would be looking for find someone who has that knowledge to assist me. The owners have had dealings with Sir Dave Richards who whilst experienced is a fool who took Wednesday down to their current position. They have also hired John Rudkin and Andrew Neville into higher positions of power. Their CVs are respectively in academy football and football administration.

Now if I compare us to other clubs of a similar or lesser size whose success we'd like to replicate, I see that they employ blokes as technical directors or directors of football with good backgrounds.

Let's take Les Reed at Southampton whose been involved with youth football, the FA and even managed a football club for a period (albeit poorly).

When you have a guy in that position with good knowledge when it comes to hiring a manager then with some research you can pinpoint an appointment which fits the way you want to run the club. Did we consider the likes of the Guingamp manager or look a bit deeper in Lennon or Karanka.

Instead they went for

Hiddink - made his name for South Korea hence the owners see a link to Asia.

O'Neill - club legend whose impact on the club is massive that it can not be ignored

Ranieri - makes a plea to say he's interested, managed the top clubs and fits a name profile.

I am thankfully for a lot of things the owners have done:- training ground, ticket prices at a sensible prices and funding a sports science/scouting time like no other we've had.

However, whilst we have this chance, i want the best for this club. I want them to lay foundations that can see is thrive for the next twenty years which may outlast their period of ownership. That's what I want - there were parts of Pearson what were doing that. Sports Science, Scouting etc. For example, we must ahead of the game if Spurs start poaching our scouting staff.

 

But that's what i'm saying, I think this has proven the Thai's are seriously limited in their footballing knowledge. They have people in power that aren't perhaps much better either (Whelan) considering this, I think the appointment of Ranieri isn't uninpisiring at all. I look at his career as a manager and listened to his recent interviews and there's definitely something left for him to achieve. I think we're a decent match. He has a history of improving teams, bar the odd poor tenure. He doesn't get the credit he deserves as he's seen as a bit of a prat.

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