Babylon Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 On the flip side imagine a back 3 of Wasyl/Huth/Fuchs that gives me confidence. He might be able to, but everything I heard about him was that he was great getting forward and not so good on the defending side. Seemed very much like someone who was cover for both the LB role, but more importantly cover for the LWB role.
dedlock Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Look, King Hammond & Drinks are in no way a trio that - on the basis of what we have seen before - a PL midfield that would be good enough to keep us up. For me King is only up to this level when he has the remit to go forward. Which is fine, but that is not going to be the case every game. Drinks was, at best, hit and miss last season despite his obvious ability in the Championship. Relying on him putting a full top class PL season together would be a massive gamble. Hammond is an ageing player who has plied his trade in the Championship, and below apart from the handful of games he played last season as a starter. Hopefully we can get two top midfielders in, but they need to be real top class, which should mean spending £15-20m the pair. If we don't I would be very, very concerned. Why oh why, again have we left it two weeks before the start of the season. It has been pretty much an outside bet that Cambi would stay all along. Plus he's 34 ffs. Where is the club'sforward thinking in terms of recruitment? Let's hope Claudio can find these players... and quick That's a fair summary of where we are currently. We need 2 quality additions in midfield and another CB at least.That is along the lines CR suggested in his press conf. Now one of the new recruits needs to be CR's good team leader.
Staffs Fox Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 I read the OP but haven't read other posts, The reason I'm personally concerned, simply put is we are 2 weeks away from starting our PL season with Moore a realistic possibility in defence with Morgan still on International Duty and a Centre Midfield consisting of Drinky, King and Hammond despite having 2 months to do something, It's correct we still have the bulk of our squad together and its a decent base but we haven't built on that to make it any better Our likely starting XI against Sunderland is currently weaker than at the end of last season. That isn't good. Fingers crossed we get our new players in quickly and they're the right players. I'll sleep a lot easier with another CB and 2 CM in the squad Taking nothing away from Okazaki but the bulk of our transfer spending so far as gone on a position we really didn't need to add to.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 You might not have noticed but we sacked our manager. Kinda puts a spanner in the works with signings. I agree it's not helped us in this respect, but had they been quicker in getting a manager in (or more accurately sorted one out before getting rid of NP so we had an immediate replacement) that may have helped?
Babylon Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 I agree it's not helped us in this respect, but had they been quicker in getting a manager in (or more accurately sorted one out before getting rid of NP so we had an immediate replacement) that may have helped? Clearly they weren't planning on sacking him, so hard to have a replacement lined up. Saints who scout their managers even when they have one, still took 20 odd days to get there man. I don't think two weeks is excessive, it just feels like it when you're a Leicester fan. Even if it had taken a week to get someone in, he's still going to need time to assess what he has. Decide what he needs etc
SecretPro Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Clearly they weren't planning on sacking him, so hard to have a replacement lined up. Saints who scout their managers even when they have one, still took 20 odd days to get there man. I don't think two weeks is excessive, it just feels like it when you're a Leicester fan. Even if it had taken a week to get someone in, he's still going to need time to assess what he has. Decide what he needs etc This. In the grand scheme of things 2 weeks was a decent turn around, especially as it seems that there was no prior planning to the sacking. It got boring as hell for us, and each day dragged into the next and the lack of concrete news and links really didn't help but I'd say two weeks was OK. Like babs has said, he's had a week in Austria, he's been training the boys, he's been keeping a close eye on the development squad so he's making all the right noise and I'd say now is probably about the right time for him to start looking at targets in depth and making a few moves now he's got to grips to some extent with the players he already has. My opinion doesn't count for much but I have to say I've been pretty impressed with Claudio since he's come in. He's looking in the right places, keeping the back room staff happy, getting very hands on with the players. He's been a consumate professional so far and I am geuninely starting to think that we may have fallen for the Media's negativity and soon we will start to wonder what all the fuss was about. I actually think he could do a decent job.
Clever Fox Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 This. In the grand scheme of things 2 weeks was a decent turn around, especially as it seems that there was no prior planning to the sacking. It got boring as hell for us, and each day dragged into the next and the lack of concrete news and links really didn't help but I'd say two weeks was OK. Like babs has said, he's had a week in Austria, he's been training the boys, he's been keeping a close eye on the development squad so he's making all the right noise and I'd say now is probably about the right time for him to start looking at targets in depth and making a few moves now he's got to grips to some extent with the players he already has. My opinion doesn't count for much but I have to say I've been pretty impressed with Claudio since he's come in. He's looking in the right places, keeping the back room staff happy, getting very hands on with the players. He's been a consumate professional so far and I am geuninely starting to think that we may have fallen for the Media's negativity and soon we will start to wonder what all the fuss was about. I actually think he could do a decent job. I like many others liked Perason for the way he moved our club forward. However I genuinely think Ranieri is a step up in terms of first team Management. As you say he is doing the right things, That's part of his wider experience. He can clearly handle big time players and so yes it's looking good. A few good results at the start of the league are now is priority to further cement that belief in the Fans.
SpacedX Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Most people on here were screaming for De Laet to be dropped. Lets not pretend that didn't happen, we were also already bottom when Simpson came in. In fact we only managed to drag ourselves out of it with both of them out of the team. I was unaware of that, and I certainly wasn't one of them.Irrespective of 'most people on here' he was vastly preferable to Simpson and that became abundantly clear in a very short time to anyone that was watching bar it would seem Nigel Pearson.
Babylon Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 I was unaware of that, and I certainly wasn't one of them.Irrespective of 'most people on here' he was vastly preferable to Simpson and that became abundantly clear in a very short time to anyone that was watching bar it would seem Nigel Pearson. It's all very well saying that, but if you had brought De Laet back in and he'd continued to be crap, then people on here would now be saying Pearson is an idiot because he never gave Simpson a proper chance as it was obvious De Laet was crap. If you also look through the list of games he played in quite a few where general team performances were pretty good. Spurs, Liverpool, Villa, Spurs again, Palace, Arsenal all games where generally we played fairly well but didn't perhaps get what we deserved from the all.
Guest Col city fan Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 I was unaware of that, and I certainly wasn't one of them.Irrespective of 'most people on here' he was vastly preferable to Simpson and that became abundantly clear in a very short time to anyone that was watching bar it would seem Nigel Pearson. Yes Babs is spot on. Delaet was off form, we were leaking goals and people (though they wouldn't admit it now) wanted Simpson in. I did. I admit it. Then I realised he can't pass a ball going forward... IMO we need a really good RB.
lgfualol Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Lmao I remember being like "give Simpson a chance Pearson ffs". I now realise how desperate I was.
cc_star Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Cambiasso needed replacing whether he stayed or left & we could've done with an extra quality midfielder too After the arrival of Huth, Fuchs & Okazaki, we still could do with those 2 CMs. Nothing has changed, except the season is now a couple of weeks away & the targets we had at the time appear to have drifted. no need to panic with regards to signings IMO, we just need to strengthen the midfield, it was a weak point for us for the middle half of last season & it's even weaker personnel-wise now
Clever Fox Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Yes Babs is spot on. Delaet was off form, we were leaking goals and people (though they wouldn't admit it now) wanted Simpson in. I did. I admit it. Then I realised he can't pass a ball going forward... IMO we need a really good RB. Yes De Laet was terrible defensively. He's probably a better right sided Midfielder where he has cover behind him and he can relax and use his skill going forward. I too called for Simpson to be brought in. But having seen him play he wasn't much of an improvement and clearly a poor buy. Which is why we moved too a 3 at the back. a proven quality right back is needed and then keep de Laet as cover.
cc_star Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Yes De Laet was terrible defensively. He's probably a better right sided Midfielder where he has cover behind him and he can relax and use his skill going forward. I too called for Simpson to be brought in. But having seen him play he wasn't much of an improvement and clearly a poor buy. Which is why we moved too a 3 at the back. a proven quality right back is needed and then keep de Laet as cover. Only if we play 4 at the back, which would be a big change of tactics from those which brought our success
Babylon Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Yes Babs is spot on. Delaet was off form, we were leaking goals and people (though they wouldn't admit it now) wanted Simpson in. I did. I admit it. Then I realised he can't pass a ball going forward... IMO we need a really good RB. I think it was the Everton away game that Simpson broke me. One ball particularly that he just booted directly to there player in midfield
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 I think all the players can start the season with a fresh slate
LAprice_ Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Am I the only one who can remember that Dean Hammond was actually quite good last season? Also, shout-outs to development players Cain, Watson and McCourt who have all been impressive. We need a like for like replacement for Cambiasso and then any other midfield signing would be a bonus. I also reckon that losing Cambiasso may allow some of our other midfielders to feature more prominently. We all know that he was outstanding but I did feel like he often relied on his midfield partner to do some of his running for him. I'd also like to see us look for another centre-half. Personally, I don't think Liam Moore is good enough and to only have Morgan, Huth and Wasilewski is a bit risky, especially if we're playing 3 at the back. Then again, we may be surprised and Fuchs may slot in there. Maybe even De Laet. I'm excited about the new season, just like I am for any season. We may have lost Pearson and Cambiasso but neither are irreplaceable. I'd much rather be optimistic about the future, rather than moan about it.
LAprice_ Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Kasper and Nuge were good signings from Sven. And Konchesky. This forum may be quick to criticise him now but surely no one can deny that he's been one of our best signings in recent years.
Babylon Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 And Konchesky. This forum may be quick to criticise him now but surely no one can deny that he's been one of our best signings in recent years. Yes those three were his best signings by a country mile... two of whom (actually maybe all three), have been ripped to pieces on here and we've been told they aren't good enough!
Clever Fox Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Only if we play 4 at the back, which would be a big change of tactics from those which brought our success The 3 at the back wasn't the only reason for our success. The introduction of wide players on both wings also had a major part to play in stretching tight defences. There were other reasons too. But yes while I agree a new RB is a necessity it doesn't mean we have to abandon our 3 at the back it just means we have other options which is necessary if only to confuse opposition Managers as to how we're likely to play.
Clever Fox Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Am I the only one who can remember that Dean Hammond was actually quite good last season? Also, shout-outs to development players Cain, Watson and McCourt who have all been impressive. We need a like for like replacement for Cambiasso and then any other midfield signing would be a bonus. I also reckon that losing Cambiasso may allow some of our other midfielders to feature more prominently. We all know that he was outstanding but I did feel like he often relied on his midfield partner to do some of his running for him. I'd also like to see us look for another centre-half. Personally, I don't think Liam Moore is good enough and to only have Morgan, Huth and Wasilewski is a bit risky, especially if we're playing 3 at the back. Then again, we may be surprised and Fuchs may slot in there. Maybe even De Laet. I'm excited about the new season, just like I am for any season. We may have lost Pearson and Cambiasso but neither are irreplaceable. I'd much rather be optimistic about the future, rather than moan about it. Yes Hammond has been good for us. He's what i call a tidy or safe player. Intercepts play rarely loses possession and passes it on. But he doesn't have the creativity we now need with James out and Cambiasso gone. DD has the ability but so far hasn't made the step up and might not get too many more chances. King has made the step up but can be a little light weight in the tackle. We need a muscle man with ability in there. Which most of the modern ones seem to come from an African background.
benpicko Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 He can but from what I've heard, Schalke fans say he is a massive liability in that role. Which confuses me as I think he plays as a CB for Austria. I still think we could do with another CB. He doesn't (once since September 2012, which is as far back as I can go with the lineups), and he didn't play there last season for Schalke either, and in fact I think on Whoscored it said that he'd played on the wing or as a wing back more than he did as a left-back even.
lgfualol Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 He doesn't (once since September 2012, which is as far back as I can go with the lineups), and he didn't play there last season for Schalke either, and in fact I think on Whoscored it said that he'd played on the wing or as a wing back more than he did as a left-back even. Oops. Are you looking forward to the Leicester /r/soccer preview tomorrow? I'm ready for arguments.
benpicko Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Oops. Are you looking forward to the Leicester /r/soccer preview tomorrow? I'm ready for arguments. Yep I'm looking forward to everybody placing us 20th in their predicted table and me arguing the toss with everybody for no reason
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