Nick Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 I find it odd that DT can start a thread asking 'What's Up With People' and nobody yet has appeared to comment on the irony of this.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 And Konchesky. This forum may be quick to criticise him now but surely no one can deny that he's been one of our best signings in recent years. They only did any good because hey became open to the ideals Pearson instilled in the club. The ones that didn't were shipped out.
cc_star Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 I find it odd that DT can start a thread asking 'What's Up With People' and nobody yet has appeared to comment on the irony of this. He's full of the joys of spring, because Nige isn't here. Just cause he's been on the cigars & champers for the past 3 weeks or so, he can't understand why people are cautious
FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 He's full of the joys of spring, because Nige isn't here. Just cause he's been on the cigars & champers for the past 3 weeks or so, he can't understand why people are cautious he will be firmly in the Claudio is a clown camp come October, worry not
Guest ttfn Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 I could probably live with just one centre mid to be honest but I understand why people think we need 2. Priorities for me are: CM CB (faster the better) Second CM RB - disagree with Babylon here as I think RDL will be ok (not great but good enough to be back up) as wing back. I also doubt we'll play 3 at the back all season and Simpson isn't good enough.
Babylon Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 RB - disagree with Babylon here as I think RDL will be ok (not great but good enough to be back up) as wing back. I also doubt we'll play 3 at the back all season and Simpson isn't good enough. You fackin what? Just think if he's planning on going with the three in the main it's pointless to splash a fairly decent amount of cash on someone better than what we have, who potentially will never play. Simpson needs to go for it to make sense. Everyone looked a disaster at the back in any formation without Huth. With him we could be much more solid.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 24 July 2015 Author Posted 24 July 2015 Just a few things, off the top of my head, not even scratching the surface really. Just when we thought we had some stabilty we've gone polar opposite and appointed someone who won't be here in a years time. We've sacked a manager who the players were quite clearly playing for, they loved him (Or seemed too), we've now appointed who is gonna be here short-term and who has had previous fallings out with our now ex-star play, who it was claimed would sign depending on who was appointed, he's decided not to sign, speaks volumes to me...Great appointment Consistency - Ok so the Thailand 3 were sacked, can't argue against it, it was the right decision, but what about the wife beater? When's he getting sacked? I think we have the answer to Pearson's argument with the owners. Being a wife beater is appalling, but not football related as such, so maybe that is the difference, although I do agree with you. People are saying, and rightly so, that Cambiasso is irreplaceable, but many of those who shouted out that we would do well, prior to his arrival, have completely changed their tune, so one can only suppose in their cases, that it is sour grapes because of Pearson's sacking. Cambiasso has to be replaced, and Ranieri has to find the best option, so I am pleased he is not being rushed into bringing in players. It will doubtless take time to re settle, and maintain our Premiership status, but I am convinced he will be a better manager in the long term, than Pearson would have been. I am not knocking Pearson in this case, but feel more comfortable about our future, under Claudio.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 24 July 2015 Author Posted 24 July 2015 I find it odd that DT can start a thread asking 'What's Up With People' and nobody yet has appeared to comment on the irony of this. I haven't changed my views, and these are the people I am talking about. It's not hard to understand, surely?
Ian S Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 I haven't changed my views, and these are the people I am talking about. It's not hard to understand, surely? Yes it is,please explain.
Babylon Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 I haven't changed my views, and these are the people I am talking about. It's not hard to understand, surely? And who are they? We lost James to injury, Cambiasso, Upson and Knockaert. From my memory is seemed generally accepted that most of them needed replacing. With the odd argument about a right back instead of a winger. I really see no great swing in opinion at all.
The Doctor Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 People are saying, and rightly so, that Cambiasso is irreplaceable, but many of those who shouted out that we would do well, prior to his arrival, have completely changed their tune, so one can only suppose in their cases, that it is sour grapes because of Pearson's sacking. Or we could correctly assume that it's because an awful lot has changed in a year... I thought our midfield was good enough last summer before he arrived, but that's with a fit James and a drinkwater who had just made an entire division look substandard. Drinkwater didn't step up last season and James is out for a while. Being confident last summer with an excellent championship midfield is an entirely different kettle of fish to coming into a season where we have three fit centre mids, the third and fourth choice in the division below, and one miles off form for the past year.
SpacedX Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 It's all very well saying that, but if you had brought De Laet back in and he'd continued to be crap, then people on here would now be saying Pearson is an idiot because he never gave Simpson a proper chance as it was obvious De Laet was crap. If you also look through the list of games he played in quite a few where general team performances were pretty good. Spurs, Liverpool, Villa, Spurs again, Palace, Arsenal all games where generally we played fairly well but didn't perhaps get what we deserved from the all. I sympathise with the with the first point to a certain extent, but based upon Simpson's fire performances he should have been pulled long before the debacle at Villa in the cup. I'm basing this judgement upon his quality, as opposed to the mass response on a forum. For a worryingly long time last season, which coincided with our position at the foot of the table, NP was reluctant to make changes. I am fully aware that the options were limited - and R/B is a case in point, but it was only when positive change was effected that our fortunes revived.
The Doctor Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 I sympathise with the with the first point to a certain extent, but based upon Simpson's fire performances he should have been pulled long before the debacle at Villa in the cup. I'm basing this judgement upon his quality, as opposed to the mass response on a forum. For a worryingly long time last season, which coincided with our position at the foot of the table, NP was reluctant to make changes. I am fully aware that the options were limited - and R/B is a case in point, but it was only when positive change was effected that our fortunes revived. Simpson only got a tiny run of games though so let's be honest, he was pulled very fast. Eh, what a load of tripe - the problem pearson had a hand in last season was he changed things too much, we abandoned our style of play, lost our bottle and stumbled through a pathetic diamond of four cms, as if Sven hadn't already proven it to be a dud, then into the 4-3-3 for a while, before dropping it for the the 5-4-1 "we'll score nil and hope you score nil as well" approach. We gained our good results in the first five and the last nine because pearson became reluctant to tinker and decided to just go for our own game.
Guest Col city fan Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Simpson only got a tiny run of games though so let's be honest, he was pulled very fast. Eh, what a load of tripe - the problem pearson had a hand in last season was he changed things too much, we abandoned our style of play, lost our bottle and stumbled through a pathetic diamond of four cms, as if Sven hadn't already proven it to be a dud, then into the 4-3-3 for a while, before dropping it for the the 5-4-1 "we'll score nil and hope you score nil as well" approach. We gained our good results in the first five and the last nine because pearson became reluctant to tinker and decided to just go for our own game.
MC Prussian Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 I find it odd that DT can start a thread asking 'What's Up With People' and nobody yet has appeared to comment on the irony of this. http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/topic/101712-whats-up-with-people/?p=3500124
SpacedX Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Simpson only got a tiny run of games though so let's be honest, he was pulled very fast. Eh, what a load of tripe - the problem pearson had a hand in last season was he changed things too much, we abandoned our style of play, lost our bottle and stumbled through a pathetic diamond of four cms, as if Sven hadn't already proven it to be a dud, then into the 4-3-3 for a while, before dropping it for the the 5-4-1 "we'll score nil and hope you score nil as well" approach. We gained our good results in the first five and the last nine because pearson became reluctant to tinker and decided to just go for our own game. Pot kettle black anyone? Firstly, from memory we signed Simpson in August. He made his debut away to Palace later the next month and became a regular in the side with well over a dozen appearances. He didn't get a 'tiny run of games' at all, he wasn't pulled very fast (late March I recall) and his period of selection almost precisely coincided with us being bottom of the table. So 'let's be honest'...your post is a 'load of tripe'. We abandoned a style of play that had conferred great success in the Championship. Pearson struggled with strategy and viable formations - and there was clearly issue an insufficient depth of squad. I agree, the turnaround came when we started playing to our strengths but in spite of squad limitations this owed a much to selection, introduction of Albrighton and the dropping of Simpson and Konch.
The Doctor Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Fair enough, just checked and he was pulled post hull at home, I was sure he'd been told to do one after the villa cup game a month earlier.
SpacedX Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Fair enough, just checked and he was pulled post hull at home, I was sure he'd been told to do one after the villa cup game a month earlier. That would have been nice. I appreciate your point about bizarre formations...to me Nige was out of his depth and clutching at straws. It did seem however that within this, certain players were far too comfortable for too long and weren't even being challenged for their places.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 24 July 2015 Author Posted 24 July 2015 And who are they? We lost James to injury, Cambiasso, Upson and Knockaert. From my memory is seemed generally accepted that most of them needed replacing. With the odd argument about a right back instead of a winger. I really see no great swing in opinion at all. Read the Panic section on Transfer Talk. I can't post on it. For some reason I am being blocked! Is that you doing that?
Mark_w Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Read the Panic section on Transfer Talk. I can't post on it. For some reason I am being blocked! Is that you doing that? I'd be extremely impressed if Babylon managed to do it.
Clever Fox Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Pearson clearly didn't know the strength of his squad relative to the premiership requirments. Big mistake on his part. Simpson was signed I believe to make up the numbers and to just provide cover for Delaet. When Delaet had a mare of a start to the season he was forced to play Simpson. While he offered a little defensively he was terrible going forward. After we signed Huth it seemed the decision was made to go with Three. Was this Pearsons decision or did the players influence him.? The rest as they say is history. Will Claudio make any of these mistakes, I doubt it very much which is why I'm confident we can at least hold our own this season.
lgfualol Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 Yep I'm looking forward to everybody placing us 20th in their predicted table and me arguing the toss with everybody for no reason I just got asked to write our team preview. Wish me luck
benpicko Posted 24 July 2015 Posted 24 July 2015 I just got asked to write our team preview. Wish me luck Brilliant, be sure to mention Preki and
MC Prussian Posted 25 July 2015 Posted 25 July 2015 Pearson clearly didn't know the strength of his squad relative to the premiership requirments. Big mistake on his part. Simpson was signed I believe to make up the numbers and to just provide cover for Delaet. When Delaet had a mare of a start to the season he was forced to play Simpson. While he offered a little defensively he was terrible going forward. After we signed Huth it seemed the decision was made to go with Three. Was this Pearsons decision or did the players influence him.? The rest as they say is history. Will Claudio make any of these mistakes, I doubt it very much which is why I'm confident we can at least hold our own this season. We're going around in circles a bit. How do we know that? The general consensus here during and shortly after last season was that Terry Robinson had a big say in terms of player recruitment and it is debatable whether the transfer dealings last summer before the first PL ball was kicked were only down to Pearson. From what I gathered then and gather now, he wasn't allowed to go for certain players he had on his wishlist.
MC Prussian Posted 25 July 2015 Posted 25 July 2015 I just got asked to write our team preview. Wish me luck Think and write carefully. There might be a few knocks on your door upon publication.
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